Hello. We recently brought my mother in law home from a skilled nursing facility due to not being able to visit. We have a two year old English Mastiff who absolutely loves people. She is well trained.
My mother in law never had pets.
I don’t know if it is dementia or just her personality or a mix of both, but
she will engage the dog by talking to her and the dog does not jump or get into her space. She is in a wheelchair so I have worked with the dog not to put her head or paws on anyone.
The last couple of days she is wheeling over to the dog to hit or shove her.
My husband said that he talked to her, but her memory is pretty much toast, so that won’t work.
We have a great dog that I trust, but at the end of the day she is a dog.
I am terrified that the dog could get pushed too far and bite.
Currently I keep the dog by me, but I can’t do that forever and my husband isn’t always diligent in his duties.
Has anyone else been in this situation? What did you do?
Thank you!
Dog or not dog, I would join an online support group- virtually, until COVID-19 dissipates. You can check the Alzheimer's Association through Google. You will get all kinds of support, validation, education and great ideas there. You may have a local chapter depending where you live? What did they do with this dilemma ?
Some pts live for years with dementia, many do not. With Alzheimer's, also known as "Sun Downers" there is an element of aggression that occurs in the evening hours, hence the term Sun Downers. While your MIL may have been aggressive, irritable, or cantankerous prior to this disease, I am not convinced she is agitating the dog intentionally and would view it as more related to the disease. I believe your pet deserves some kind of intervention in your home. It would be a shame to rehome your pet and then you MIL continues to be aggressive, thereby finding out it had nothing to do with the dog. You may have to move your MIL into placement b/c you cannot provide the level of care she needs, so placement is the only option, and I realize that's not an easy thing, d/t the quality of care ( or lack thereof) in ALFs and SNF across the country, and the dog will be gone.
While I believe animals have senses we do not realize, the dog likely has an instinct that your MIL is not well. However, I agree with your mindfulness that at the end of the day, a dog is a dog. Have you considered hiring a professional dog trainer to come to your home and train your dog? Given the love and loyalty we get from dogs, it is well worth the investment if you can afford it.
Have you considered temporarily placing the dog with a relative. Somewhere that you can visit and trust, your pet would be returned. You could offer to continue his food, medical care, etc. You may find after six or nine months, you simply cannot provide the level of care your MIL needs. You could use the "zone" idea and have them share the home; again, dog training.
And while your husband is the man he is, and we cannot change people, I would have a serious conversation about him being more mindful about the dog's behavior. You may even want to reevaluation your home owners policy. Someone in his family may not be happy to learn the dog has injured your MIL, in the name of love/play on the dogs part.
Whatever you decide; its always good to consider you do not have to make a decision that is permanent. Life changes- as you likely know, sometimes in minutes. Safety first- always. And kudos to you for being such an awesome daughter in law :)
Some of the tracks abused the dogs. It’s not an easy life for them.
They are kept in crates that are stacked on top of each other.
The only time that they are let out of the crate is to race, eat and go to the bathroom. It’s very sad.
They are incredible dogs. All they want is to be loved. All animals deserve our love and respect.
I sincerely hope the OP’s dog will never be abused again. I am glad that this dog has a good nature but a dog will only put up with so much before snapping or biting whoever they consider a threat.
No one wants to see a human being bitten either, especially a child or elderly person. It’s a challenge to separate them.
Even if it’s not an abuse situation there can be problems. My mom loved giving my dog treats and portions of her dinner.
I told mom not to give the dog more than one or two treats a day and no table food. Did she listen? Nope! So I had to close the door to mom’s room when I served her meals.
The dog was free to go wherever he wanted to in our home. Greys should never be allowed to get overweight. It can cause major health issues.
Mom loved the dog and he adored her. I didn’t have a situation like the OP does. It’s truly sad and has to be extremely frustrating. I would somehow try to keep them separated.
Just keep the dog in another part of the house, you
can use pet gates, closed doors when you are not around to supervise so the dog cannot go into the room where MIL is. Get creative, there is ALWAYS an answer, Or ensure dementia MIL is in a room because she s/n be rolling all over the place either. In reality a person with dementia is going to be a whole lot of strain on you and your husband and is a ridiculous idea to have removed her from SNF. I would find another place to bring her to that can better help and be equipped to handle a dementia patient. My friend just told me about his father that had dementia and it was absolutely HORRIBLE!!! The hard work and toil that he went through is just unimaginable! Is that the way you want to live your life? She needs to be in a memory care clinic, your home is not the answer, is not in the best interest of MIL either. Get her out now!n. What would you do if MIL was doing this to your 4yo child? Would you get rid of your child?
If you love the dog enough, you will finds ways to make this work.
Curiosity - Is your username a play on the typical "just a dog" or "just a cat" response ignorant people like to use?
(I don't have people/pet problems, but I do have cats that DO NOT get along, so I currently have 3 "zones" in my house! Also, it isn't always the big dogs, or those one might "expect" who do the biting - my daughter has a collection of mini-dachshunds and one of those little boogers bit my leg! Big dogs that do bite can inflict more damage, but this little jerk pulled a chunk of skin almost off without even making a pinhole in my pant leg! It took a long time to heal and left a mark... My son has a pit-mix who would lick you to death before he'd ever bite a person. But, if someone is messing with them, over and over, at some point they could lash back - best to keep them apart and move 'er out!)
Visits or not, MIL should be put (back) into a facility. Given what you said about the one she was in, I'd consider finding another place, if possible.
"The nursing home she was in was NOT helpful in letting us know where she was mentally."
"We had no idea how far her dementia was because we couldn’t visit her."
Visits may not have been useful for you to see/know what her behavior was. Too often dementia patients can "appear" more normal at times. The staff should have regular updates (mom's is 6 mo review) with you. In between, you can always ask what her status is. I've had one brief outdoor visit with my mother since mid-March. Window visits aren't possible in her area. She can't use a phone or any kind of computer. Hearing is shot. Despite all that and more, I'm still aware of what's going on. If not, I can ask the nurse in charge of mom's MC.
Also, if she's in NH/SNF probably isn't giving her much socialization and/or stimulation. The nurses'll be busy dispensing meds, etc and she's likely left to her own defenses, which will only get her into trouble. With MC, she'd be encouraged to interact with others and have some activities to participate in. Sure, a MC facility will have issue with shoving/hitting as well, but can work with you and doc to try medication if their attempts to curtail this behavior doesn't work.
Based on your profile, is there a reason why she's in SNF rather than MC? Does she require skilled nursing care? If not, if it's only the wheelchair and dementia, look for a MC to place her in. Even if there are other issues, so long as she doesn't require special nursing care, MC will likely save some money and her care would be more focused on the dementia (unless she was in a special SNF MC, but even still, if she doesn't require skilled nursing care, find a regular AL/MC for her.) NH and SNF are always more expensive because they have to hire more nurses.
"She has a history of threatening to hit caregivers."
"Despite dementia, she has a mean streak."
THIS is a problem area. Whether it's a caregiver, another resident, your poor sweet dog or YOU, she'll be shoving/hitting. This is just who she is. You can talk, explain, yell, chastise, cuss all you want at her, it won't change anything! I'd recommend talking with her doc and perhaps trying some mild medication. A low dose of an anti-anxiety might help. I'm NOT a big fan of medication, but they used Lorazepam during mom's initial move and again later during a bad UTI induced sun-downing. The nice thing about this med is it doesn't take time to build up in her system to work. First time, every time. Took about 15 min to work. It also doesn't have to be "weaned" off if it's not needed anymore or it doesn't solve the issue. The worst side-effect is balance related (mom NEVER had an issue while taking it) and since MIL's in a wheelchair, this likely won't be an issue. With this med, you should know the very first time she takes it whether it takes the "edge" off. Certainly give it several tries over a few days if it doesn't seem to work right away - everyone is different! But, if you see no results, then it might be time to try either a stronger dose, or something else. My mother was also NEVER "doped up" on this med.
I'd suggest trying medication(s) while you search for another facility (unless she's on Medicaid and has to use that SNF - in many cases Medicaid doesn't cover MC - depends on each state and the rules they set.) If the medication helps her in your home, it'll buy you more time to find a good place. Still keep an eye out for the pooch - even if the "edge" is off, the behavior is likely still underneath and might pop out! If it does work, it'll make moving her and having her adjust to the old place or a new one a bit easier, both for her AND the staff!
Meanwhile, do what you can to keep them in their own "corners", whether it's a door, some kind of gate, etc.
Keep the dog away from her. Yes to protect her from the dog, but also to protect the dog from the abuse she is wielding. It also hurts you when she hurts your dog.
These are tough times. Keep your chin up. You were very kind and thoughtful to bring her home. Good things will come your way.
the mil is a bully, the singling out of a sweet pet is *not* dementia. She’s a bully, and once she learned she’s enabled to be one its continued. If on day one her son had swiftly wheeled her to her room and told her hitting isn’t allowed in their home and she will stay in her room the rest of the day, and showed he meant it I have a feeling mil would’ve straightened up. Since it seems the husband was weak to do so the daughter in law may end up being her next punching bag. I cannot stand bullies of any age color gender, zero tolerance for it
if this doesn’t help then must consider placing MIL in a facility again.
Good luck!
Dementia isn't inspiring your MIL to abuse your dog. SHE is intentionally abusing your dog.
MIL needs to be removed immediately, and re-admitted into her previous SNF.
Your "husband," is intentionally enabling her abuse??
MIL, logically can be expected to do the EXACT same deliberate abuse with every living being that she encounters, are YOU next on her list?
Thankfully you don't have small kids within your home.
So sorry that your MIL is intentionally hurting your dog,
" deliberately wheeling over to the dog to hit or shove her."
that's unacceptable.
[I did wonder if it wasn't a bit stressful for the dog, mind you. In the run-up period the dog was very clingy and appeared quite anxious; but she was absolutely right about the timing. I should also note that at no time did she prevent me or my co-workers from supporting her owner.]
This was wonderful to witness and confirmed my existing admiration of Staffies, the only breed described by the Kennel Club as "100% reliable."
Tragically, however, only a couple of weeks ago, I read of a catastrophe which happened early this year. A Staffie-mastiff cross, also trained in seizure awareness, had been unable to wake his owner when his owner began to seize in his sleep. The dog had become desperate and dragged his owner from his bed to the floor. The man's parents were in the house, and paramedics promptly attended the property, but no-one was able to approach the patient who by this time was under the bed being guarded by his dog. It ended in absolute disaster with the man's death, and terrible to report it seems that the probable cause of death was asphyxiation and severe neck bites caused by the dog's grip, possibly as the dog continued attempts to shake his owner awake. A police marksman had to shoot the dog dead, every other attempt to separate him from his owner having failed.
Dogs are incredibly wonderful and incredibly valuable in all sorts of different care contexts; but it is not safe and not fair and not reasonable to impose any actual responsibility on them for vulnerable adults' wellbeing.
If her memory is "toast," there's no use telling/reminding her not to bother the dog.
Do not let her push the dog until it's so scared and unhappy that it bites. It doesn't understand why it's being punished!
Is there a way to keep your dog out of harm's way? If your home is big enough, maybe create zones?
Good luck!!
So, just tell her not to bother the dog or he might bite.
Every time you see her going to the dog, tell her No, Don't Touch or Leave dog alone. Short 1 or word sentences are best.
She probably just doesn't like animals and that's why she's never had one. Believe it ir not, Some people still think animals don't belong in the house.
Your dog is a people friendly dog and has lived this way before mom moved in. So it has to be a little confusing to the dog, as well, that there is a person acting a little strange. My concern would be the chair rolling over a tail or toe and dog reacts with a bite. Should that happen you can bet that everyone and their brother are going to point fingers at you for having a 'dangerous' dog in the house with her. . .or any children that happen to visit. Somehow you need to separate dog and mom to avoid this.
Maybe create an area for dog to escape from her - dog bed behind a couch or a corner of the room where dog has an opening to go in/out, yet a fence to keep mom away from the dog. Or a dog gate to contain it away from mom. Not so fair to the dog, but definitely better than a bite. Each time you see mom go in that direction, say something. Ask her why. Try to reach the part of the brain still functioning.
You also need to drive all this home with hubby to become more diligent. He needs to be on red alert at all times where mom and dog are concerned. Ask him what he thinks will happen if the dog bites mom - could he just let the dog be removed from home or euthanized because he failed to act??
Baby gates and other stuff will only delay the inevitable and make your life even more stressful. Do yourself and the dog a favor and find a friend or someone to take the dog until MIL can go back into the nursing home.
Pain is a powerful teacher.
If your MIL is in a wheelchair, isn't it easier to keep her away from the dog than vice versa?
How does the dog respond when MIL approaches her?
Assuming your MIL is able to speak, if you ask her why she has hit or shoved the dog what does she say? I'm not supposing that her answer would make rational sense, but it may give you clues about what's triggering her hostility.
The other point I would make is that even if the dog is perfectly well behaved and absolutely blameless there can still be accidents. She might scramble to get away and scratch MIL with her claws, or even - being a biggish dog - tip the wheelchair.
Is your home open plan? I'm just wondering why it isn't simple to keep the two in different areas.
I'm so sorry you are having to deal with this stress. To reiterate everyone else, dogs can be dogs and who in the world can blame one that gets upset if hit or injured by someone.
I agree with others about addressing the issue with you MIL. She has a broken brain, but she needs to know this is unacceptable. (I do not know the extent of her dementia). If she is still able to read, I'd stick a big, fat sign up on the gate telling her DON'T TOUCH THE DOG!
If possible, have a double gate system so that MIL is gated far enough from the dog so that she cannot reach through or over the gate to hit the dog. This whole situation sounds hellish to me as I LOVE my dogs.
If you have a doggy daycare near you, take your dog there several days a week. This will give everyone (especially the dog) a nice break.
In short, re-home MIL, not dog.
I had a similar situation keeping my young grandchildren at my home with a senior dog. My dog was really stressed with no safe space. They were always after my dog so I ended up corralling him in our big kitchen using baby gates. It was a happy and safe situation for everyone. The children were only with me for half days and when they napped my puppy was allowed out. It may work for your mom.