How can I stop 16 family members from visiting my 90 year old parent? I’ve explained that he is not able to tolerate noise and a lot of talking bc he lives alone. None of them understand and think it will be a great family reunion. Dad has said I can’t have that many in my house at once. They just don’t get it and say they are going and staying with him no matter what. What can I do?
This is grossly selfish and ignorant of the needs of an gentleman of his years by those concerned. Personally I would be very willing to have them removed by the police if they turned up and it was distressing him as a case of elder abuse. You will no doubt end up in the wrong with family but you never will be, you will be carrying out his wishes and what he can cope with.
Of course he could consider going to a facility for a period of respite when then are due to visit and numbers will be controlled by the facility. Dad gets peace and something he can deal with and they can stay in his house and do some odd jobs / chores ready for his return........
Advise that visitors from farther away could stay in hotels or camp in the garden. Perhaps borrow or hire some gazebos for shade etc. Visitors are responsible for their own catering arrangements.
It can work but boundaries have to be presented clearly and stuck to.
They aren’t listening, and dealing with them at the door will be very difficult if you can’t open it at all. The only alternative might well be calling the police, which is not going to be at all nice for anyone, including Dad.
I think Beatty is remembering a suggestion I made once before: put someone in charge of organising the rabble, with the responsibility to enforce it. Still worth a try.
If they are coming from all-over, yes it might be a nice reunion for them, as well as a chance for a few at a time to see Dad. My far-flung sisters and I had an enjoyable reunion bed-side to mother in hospital - which sounds awful but it was a quick problem with an immediate recovery and she was feeling OK. Ask the organiser to set up a proper reunion somewhere suitable, which does NOT include Dad's house.
Likely, this planning discussion should lead you in the direction of hotels and accommodations where the whole group can stay. What they really want is to have a big family reunion and that’s a good thing. The vaccinated people should be allowed to visit him in small groups in his own home or even take him to the hotel for a short visit if he so desires. If this is the direction your conversation takes you, you can hold off mentioning your intention to go out of town and regulate the family’s access to your dad while they are there.
Buck up .
Speak to everyone on zoom if possible , or the ringleader. Ask them if they want him to die . Point blank ask them if endangering him is worth the visit , or would they like him to live out the natural span of his life .
Tell them they're endangering him and though it's understandable they want to see him as he's elderly , seeing him may remove him from their lives prematurely .
See if they will then compromise with a reunion in a park or beach , somewhere open air where he can see them without close contact. If they object , ask again : do you want him to die ?
Grind it in , don't be afraid . Let them know that though it is hard not to see their loved one , staying away or seeing him in groups of two from a distance is showing love the best .
Tell them you didn't work this hard to keep him safe to have it all fall to pieces now .
Explain to them that if they love him , they will stay in a hotel so he is safe .
Explain to them that if they love him they WILL wear masks and respect your fears about this VERY serious pandemic and the effect it has on the elderly.
" I know you love dad so I know you understand my concerns , right ? " manipulate their behinds .
I had to do this to a relative who hadn't seen my grandmother in 12 years and wanted to pop by after coming from the US. She showed up and the first thing she said was " I can't wait to hug her " oh ? I made her stand in the yard outside mamas bedroom window and mama had no damn idea who she was . Monica called me paranoid , butter wouldn't melt in my mouth , honey. I said " I'd rather be paranoid and have mama safe with me for longer than careless and watch her suffer and die " That shut her up . It was worth it .
Keep at it , a calm tone of voice always , no shouting : if you love him...do you want him safe ....find out how many elderly people have died in your region from covid and have that stat ready . This shows you've done research and that you're not talking out of your @$$.
Always calm , insistent by being firm .
If this doesn't work then they don't give a d*** about him and you should take him far away on a drive on the day they say they're arriving, Either to your home and lock up or book a hotel and don't look back until they're gone.
Good luck .
By the way , this makes me so angry in your behalf my heart is racing . I know how you feel . Stay strong and safe . Much love.
L
You have to be the advocate for your father and do what he wants to the best of your ability. Many great ideas posted here. Be strong and keep him first in your actions to protect him.
Everyone here is on Dad's side saying "No!," but how can he enforce the "No? "
Too bad we cannot all show up and surround his house with a three-deep circle of Outraged Care Givers to protect his peace and privacy.
Your oblivious family is making me angry.
If nothing else, I would remove anything valuable and/or confidential to some other secure location.
Are they all nuts or just reckless?
Aside from COVID as a reason for caution, your Dad does not like the chaos of lots of people. Many of us do not. People and social interactions, even if they are family, are extremely agitating and exhausting for quiet personalities.
A gathering is just all-around a Terrible Idea.
While this may seem a bit rude, you need to advocate for your dad and say, listen, he has said he can't handle the noise and confusion and if you can't understand that, I will get a court order to prevent you all from being able to visit all at once.
You could also try a zoom type thing. Cut it off after 15 minutes.
Hire an attorney to advocate why it isn't a good idea for everyone to converge on the aged all at once.
With COVID-19 I can't believe the family is so self centered and has no regard to your dad health.
Do they have keys to dads house? If no, don't open door and call police for them disturbing his peace and quiet if the come and knock continually.
If they do have a key, change the lock, and follow above advise.
So sorry you are dealing with such family problems.
Tare care of dad and yourself
Instead, circulate a sign up genius where the adults can each sign up, one at a time, to spend quality time with their grandad. They can take him to doctor’s appointments, deep clean his place, cook for him, plant a Spring garden, put up his holiday decorations, make needed home repairs, etc.
if they have young children, the visits need to be short. Let him enjoy the kids without too much confusion. Then they can get a babysitter for their kids and come back and help.
if they want to have a raucous family reunion, they can do it somewhere else.
If they insist on coming all at once inform them the police will be called for trespassing and elder abuse. Stand your ground.
Tell them they are welcome to stay in a motel and come visit for an hour a few at a time.
Tell them that you will abide by Dad's wishes and if they show up anyway, you will not open the door.
Tell them that's too many people staying at anyone's house, especially a Senior that is use to quietness.
My suggestion is to Offer an alternative. Wait.
Wait for dads BD or a holiday and after COVID has been beaten back. Let it be all about Dad with some planning.
My mom at 90 was given two huge parties. She knew about it in advance and while she was shocked and amazed that so many wanted to gather for her, she thoroughly enjoyed the parties and the memories and the 90+ cards she enjoyed looking through along with the photos for years to come.
I also gave my DH aunt a large party at 90. Aunt loved the party and all that went with it. I was supportive of the parties and to use some of the terms listed here on this thread, I was the ring leader for both elders events.
The parties for my mom were not held at her home. Aunt’s party was held at her home. Her already 90 year old first cousin and cousin's daughter traveled from a state away and took her to mass the next morning and then to a gambling casino that afternoon. This was the day after the party. She absolutely loved it all. It took her a week to recover. As she said, what else do I have to do.
My mom even said she wanted such a party every year after the 90th. We always gave each of these matriarchs a party for birthday and Christmas, sometimes Easter and always Thanksgiving there would be a gathering. But not on as large a scale.
When my mom reached 95 we decided to have another party slightly expanded from immediate family. It was NOT a happy occasion for her or me. She refused to come and only the persuasion of a special GD got her to the party. Again she enjoyed it in retrospect but there was a disconnect between her and her descendants that was growing. We cut the 96th back even more. I can’t remember anything significant that was going on but it was a success. But at the 97th there was a melt down. I asked her if she wanted a half anxiety tablet. She said, better give me the whole pill. She would have passed on the whole thing. I’m so glad we didn’t. It has taken me 6 years to be able to place her initial reaction and that party in perspective. She ended up enjoying it very much and I hold that memory close when I look back over all the sacrifices I made in my own life to give meaning to her last years.
My parents had birthdays and birth years two days and two years apart in the spring so it was always a nice time for the family to gather to honor them. After my mom passed the fall of her 97th year, we continued the tradition of having a family reunion on the occasion of their births until the COVID. We have now missed two years. Maybe we can gather again next year. Hopefully the Covid will have receded enough to do so.
So try to understand that it is a honor to your father and a blessing for him and them to have an opportunity to gather but not at this time under these circumstances. Perhaps the 14 plus can gather and have a photo made to send to GP with all their love. Perhaps GP can record a video on your cell phone wishing them all well and thanking them for wanting to visit and agreeing to wait until the danger has passed. It will be something they can look back on in their futures when some of the current madness has passed. They can realize how wise their GP was and and be amazed that they have lived to tell of living through the great pandemic of the 2000s.