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She has been checked for urinary issues and there is no problem. This is affecting her sleep and mine. What can I do?

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You can put your 98 year old mom to bed with a disposable nighttime Depends and check it at 5 am to see if it needs changing. To wake up 3-5x a night to use the commode is ruining the quality of sleep time for both of you. You can even look into a Purewick system but I'd try the Depends first.

When an elder lies in bed and the bladder flattens out, its common to feel the need for more frequent urination, the doctor explained to me years ago.
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BarbBrooklyn May 2023
Such good information!
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In my opinion, sleep is more important to health and well-being than food.

My 96 yo mother woke both of us up 4 to 5 times every night for almost 3 years - to the point that I thought I was having a nervous breakdown.

So I put her on a schedule. She has to be up and in the kitchen from 11:30 until 5:30 (give or take a few minutes) so she can eat, drink etc. This helps her day/night rhythm and tires her out.

At bedtime I give her one CBD gummy (no THC).

Now she is sleeping most of the night - we may occasionally get up one time, but primarily she will sleep until 5:00/6:00 am before having to go to the bathroom.

And she does wear a depends with a very large overnight pad inside.
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There are many bladder spasm medications that might help cut down on the frequency. I would check with her urologist about those. Also having her urologist put Botox in her bladder may help.
You can also just have her wear Depends with an extra pad in it for absorption and tell her that she's just going to have to pee in them, and you can change them once overnight if needed. Just make sure that you have several waterproof pads under her so the bedding won't get wet.
My late husband got up every hour on the hour to pee, and I too had to help him as he was a fall risk, and neither of us got any sleep for about 8 months.
He tried the medications, Botox, and eventually had to get a supra pubic catheter put in. That was a Godsend and we both were finally able to sleep through the night.
It's hard when you don't get enough sleep, this I know all too well. Please take care of yourself, and do whatever it takes to get some sleep again.
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You haven’t mentioned why she needs help getting on the commode. Does she have a mobility problem? Is she incontinent? My 93 yr old mother is not incontinent but has a mobility problem from a prior stroke and now a broken ankle. I do the following things which work in our situation. My Mom can toilet herself independently at night because of these things. I don’t know if these are relevant without knowing why your mother needs assistance.
My mother:
* Stops drinking liquids at 7pm
* Sleeps in a recliner lift chair
* Has her walker on one side of the
chair; bedside commode on the
other side of the chair at a 90
degree angle
* Has an absorbant pad under her,
but no brief at night so she doesn’t
have to pull down anything to get
on the commode
* Wears a short nightgown that
allows her to just sit on the
commode
* Keeps her cell phone on a bedside
table with my number ready to dial
in case she needs to get me.
* Has lighting from a nightlight so
it’s semi dark but so she can see
when she gets up to use the
commode
All these things are in place at night so that all my mother has to do is use her lift chair to help her get up, grab her walker (putting it in front of her), stand up, pivot and sit on the commode. When finished she stands and pivots back onto the chair. I’ve taught her to fold her blanket and get it to one side of her so that she can safely stand. She even handles an oxygen cannula - removing it and placing it over one of the handles of the bedside commode before she gets up.
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Spatzi May 2023
Reading your reply, You have this all figured right. I do some of this for my husband just like you, but learned a little more from you. Thank you
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Im 60 & get up that much sometimes
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ContentedOne May 2023
i used to deal with this until I started taking D-Mannose supplement capsules a few times a week.
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The pure wick system works very well. My mil loves it
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My mom used an "external female catheter" system called PureWick. That with washable plastic sheets worked well when she could not move after a bad fall (could not move herself in her own bed, much less get up to pee). Once she improved her strength, adult diapers and washable plastic sheets worked.

This device just sits at the person's bottom and automatically sucks up urine and deposits it into a receptacle that is emptied in the morning. One can subscribe (so a monthly supply) of parts arrive.

More on PureWick here: https://purewickathome.ca/how-it-works/
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My mom wears Depends 24/7 “just in case” — her decision — but will not actually use them. We found oxybutynin (brand names Oxytrol, Ditropan) to be helpful in reducing urinary frequency. If the doc won’t prescribe, Magnalife Bladder Relief (available on Amazon) can also be helpful. I hope you’re both able to get some sleep soon!
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my 91 yr old mom would get up by herself throughout the night to urinate (she had heart failure and was on diuretics). Then last year at age 90, she started having anemia/back issues and couldnt get out of bed which caused delirium(she called out for me every 5 min to turn her in bed) and needing assistance all night long (bathroom etc)and it was really hard to be up all night - this ended up with worsening everything and she died march 6 2023 - devastating me....your issue seems confined to just going to bathroom - does she restrict fluids after a certain hour or on diuretics? She could wear diapers but thats not great because of UTIs. What about the WICKs system - she can wear it at night and it sucks out the urine from a pad on her private parts.
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CharMom May 2023
I’m looking into Wicks. Expensive but could really help.
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My wife has AD but she had a neurogenic bladder diagnosis a few years ago. She can't empty her bladder and used to result in frequent UTIs. Doctor suggested I cath her bladder before bedtime to prevent buildup. So he taught me how to do it (really simple ) and she doesn't have to get up at night! She did out of habit and I would remind her we just drained her and she layed back down!
Another help was to give no liquids a few hours before bedtime!
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CharMom May 2023
Thank you! Great ideas.
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