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This is not an uncommon problem and apparently some banks are known to be a problem, the simplest thing to do is to have him go to the bank to sign whatever forms they require (apparently they don't ask for proof of competence at this point - go figure). Some people have gotten around this by having "him" 😉 set up an online account and bypassing the human element, from there "he" can move the money to a more cooperative bank.
My experience was that the LO did not have go the bank, we had her sign and have the form notarized. Where I live, you can find notaries who make house calls.
My dad's POA only worked for me at one of his 3 banks. The other 2 wanted additional forms filled out by HIM which he is not capable of understanding -- go figure. I ended up getting guardianship. And guess which bank got the guardianship account? Yep, the one who was most cooperative during the POA process. They have been wonderful. I have found only one place where my guardianship has not worked. When dad moved to AL, I wanted to forward his mail from his house to a box at the UPS Store to keep it separate from my own. They would not honor my guardianship and wanted him there to sign the papers (again, not gonna happen) so I just ended up forwarding to my house.
what I was told I needed to do was to take a notarized copy to the county clerk and have it on file with the county. Once that was done I had a copy with the county clerks seal on it, the bank was OK with that.
my bigger problem was getting additional copies of Moms death certificate from the county coroner’s office. I had to go to every bank in the area and ask if they had an account for my Mom. Having a copy of the will was not good enough for them. Mom was in the habit of hiding money and not trusting anyone one (or two, or even three) bank. I guess this was part of the mindset left over from the Great Depression.
while she still has her Dad, she needs to have a frank discussion about where everything is.
I have never had a problem with Moms bank. Of course we bank at the same place so the people knew us.
When it came to dealing with the banks after death, I had a short certificate from the Probate office saying I was Executor and had the power to handle my Moms estate. Which is...finding where the money is, .
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Based on your preferences, we provide you with information about one or more of our contracted senior living providers ("Participating Communities") and provide your Senior Living Care Information to Participating Communities. The Participating Communities may contact you directly regarding their services.
APFM does not endorse or recommend any provider. It is your sole responsibility to select the appropriate care for yourself or your loved one. We work with both you and the Participating Communities in your search. We do not permit our Advisors to have an ownership interest in Participating Communities.
II. How We Are Paid.
We do not charge you any fee – we are paid by the Participating Communities. Some Participating Communities pay us a percentage of the first month's standard rate for the rent and care services you select. We invoice these fees after the senior moves in.
III. When We Tour.
APFM tours certain Participating Communities in Washington (typically more in metropolitan areas than in rural areas.) During the 12 month period prior to December 31, 2017, we toured 86.2% of Participating Communities with capacity for 20 or more residents.
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You have no obligation to use or to continue to use our services. Because you pay no fee to us, you will never need to ask for a refund.
V. Complaints.
Please contact our Family Feedback Line at (866) 584-7340 or ConsumerFeedback@aplaceformom.com to report any complaint. Consumers have many avenues to address a dispute with any referral service company, including the right to file a complaint with the Attorney General's office at: Consumer Protection Division, 800 5th Avenue, Ste. 2000, Seattle, 98104 or 800-551-4636.
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Can she take her dad to the bank?
Some people have gotten around this by having "him" 😉 set up an online account and bypassing the human element, from there "he" can move the money to a more cooperative bank.
what I was told I needed to do was to take a notarized copy to the county clerk and have it on file with the county. Once that was done I had a copy with the county clerks seal on it,
the bank was OK with that.
my bigger problem was getting additional copies of Moms death certificate from the county coroner’s office. I had to go to every bank in the area and ask if they had an account for my Mom. Having a copy of the will was not good enough for them. Mom was in the habit of hiding money and not trusting anyone one (or two, or even three) bank. I guess this was part of the mindset left over from the Great Depression.
while she still has her Dad, she needs to have a frank discussion about where everything is.
I have never had a problem with Moms bank. Of course we bank at the same place so the people knew us.
When it came to dealing with the banks after death, I had a short certificate from the Probate office saying I was Executor and had the power to handle my Moms estate. Which is...finding where the money is,
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