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Janet, take Dad to an urgent care facility and have them run a UTI test on Dad. Normally once the bacteria is identified then the antibiotic assigned will clear up the UTI. In the past, was there a 3 day wait before finding out what bacteria was the culprit? The wait is due to having the bacteria grow in the lab so it can be identified.
Then the facility will give Dad directions on how to keep the UTI from coming back. Such as if Dad wears Depend type garments, he needs to change frequently during the day. Cranberry juice is also recommended. My Dad's caregiver use to mix the cranberry juice with orange juice as the cranberry can have quite a bite.
When Mom was found to have a UTI they used a catheter to get all the urine out of her bladder. Then they used antibiotics. She was put on probiotics because of the antibiotics and cranberry tablets. Both were given to her till her passing. Problem with the elderly is they don't fully void. UTIs are serious for men more so then woman.
Several months is - - several months too long to have a UTI.
My DH kept getting Thrush-Mouth until I found out to put him on Candida Control. Dehydration causes a lot of infections to keep coming back. It's hard to get the elderly to drink fluids - I know because my DH is 96 and it's a struggle. Why? Because then they have to pee more so the "logical" choice is to drink less. *sigh*
A good probiotic would help and did you know they're supposed to be refrigerated? I didn't and had to buy all new when I found out.
The above suggestions by freqflyer and JoAnn29 are well stated.
An 82 year old woman with breast cancer once told me to start buying cans of cranberry sauce-no matter the brand or the cost, cheapest is ok- and eat 2-3 tablespoons per day. She said I would never, ever have UTI problems in my life if I stuck to her advice. Claimed kidneys will love it! Well.....she was right!
My father's body has been living with a UTI for 8 months. His body can no longer tolerate antibiotics (nearly died twice from diarrhea due to those hospital stays!). I have tried a series of Oil of Oregano (natural antibiotic) 3x/day for a month as well as MANY other natural remedies. That worked for a while. At some point though, as we're experiencing now, the body's degeneration doesn't cooperate. He has chosen to just live with it now (no more hospitals or urgent care or doctors). He's done trying and he seems to be doing just fine (!). No pain, always a good appetite... One of his nurses said some live with UTIs for years. I was shocked and had no idea about that...
Cranberry Juice but make sure its organic not the supermarket stuff. Go to a health store. My husband is bedridden and it did work for him without antibiotics. As the above poster says, it is bitter when its the real thing, but mix it with something else or sweeten with sugar. The regular tetra pack stuff is often pasteurised or has preservatives which impact on the active ingredient. Best wishes
He may well have asymptomatic bacteriuria rather than a true UTI.
This basically means chronically having bacteria in the urine. It becomes very common as people get older, in part because the immune system gets weaker with age. For this reason, it's really not appropriate to diagnose an older person with a UTI solely because a urine culture is positive. Instead, clinicians are supposed to check for symptoms like belly pain, pain with urination, and so forth.
Treating this condition with antibiotics does not improve outcomes.
I've written an article about it on my site, which has lots of links to the research and also some advice on how to determine whether an older person does have a UTI that should be treated. (It can be hard to tell in many cases.) Or you can learn more by searching online. good luck!
He could have an antibiotic-resistant strain of bacteria. If nothing else works, focus on hygiene (washing hands, clothes,bathroom) and increasing fluids.
See if your dad's doc will prescribe Methenamine Hipp 1 gm/day. I read about it on AgingCare.com from someone who tried it for their parent with chronic UTI's. Mom would get them and get kind of crazy but when we would add the antibiotic become fully demented. I asked her doc to prescribe it and he said sure. This was in late Sept and she hasn't had one since even with occasional bowel incontinence. It alters the pH of the urine slightly so bacteria can't live in the urinary tract. It's difficult to give OTC cranberry stuff because in ALF Memory Care everything has to go through nurses giving them meds ordered by their dr so you can't ask them to do it. It was a positive change and cleared her cognition up a lot.
Tricky problem to have. Sometimes a catheter is necessary but catheters allow certain germs to "march right in." Also, before you try various herbal remedies check for drug interactions. I was going to try cranberry pills for my dad, but learned it would create a serious problem due to the fact that he was on dilantin for a seizure disorder. Hope you find something that helps.
Thank you ALL for your suggestions and time taken to reply, it is very difficult to know what to do, I will try some of your suggestions. Thanks again. Janet.
My wife is just getting over a UTI. For 5 or 6 days she didn't know who she was our where she was. Finally after 5 different IV antibiotics she began to come back to life. UTI's can't be taken lightly.
Janet, what is your father's overall health? I've read a lot about recurring infections in advanced seniors. It seems that sometimes, it's something that just continues, even with the treatment with antibiotics. Have you discussed other options with his doctor?
My mom (almost 95) had a slew of UTIs last year following a late-April leg fracture. Several were anti-biotic resistant. All took place in hospital and rehab settings. Since coming back to live with us in early December, she's been taking doctor-prescribed Methenamine, a daily over-the-counter Cranberry capsule, a daily probiotic capsule, and a daily teaspoon of D-Mannose powder (purchased online) in her water. (The idea for all of these came from reading this website's caregiver forum.) She has not had a UTI since, her mind is sharper than ever, and her energy level is higher than it has been in several years. If I had to guess, I would say the probiotic is playing the biggest role, and no doctor ever suggested she should take one. I also make sure she has a plastic mug (with screw-on lid and hole for straw) full of water and ice by her side at all times. I am always encouraging her to drink, and thankfully she is so mentally sharp now she understands why she needs to stay hydrated. I hope all of the suggestions you are getting here will help you with your Dad. Let us know how things go.
Meant to also include daily 500 mg Vitamin C tablet in my above response. The Cranberry is also 500 mg. The methenamine is 1 GM. The probiotic is CVS's Senior Probiotic dietary supplement (no refrigeration required).
When my father who had Parkinson's, with likely Lewy Body Dementia, would get UTIs, it would change his behavior for the worse and make things very difficult for all. However even with wearing Depends, after the MD prescribed the drug Rapaflo on a daily and continuous basis, he never had another UTI. What works for one may not work for the other, but it's worth considering. I hope you are able to find something that works for your father.
Hi Jane, Here is a remedy that Works! Colloidal Silver 4oz three times a day for 7 to 10 days along with Pure organic Olive leaf extract two caps a day. Both of these are natural remedies with zero side effects. Colloidal Silver is better than any man made antibiotic out there. But.. you must replace the good bacteria in the gut when taking it, which can be done by adding a good probiotic. I dealt with these infections with my Mom and had tremendous success. In fact my family takes one ounce of colloidal silver everyday along with the olive leaf extract, and for over 7 years have had no need for doctors. The body does well with what God gave us, not with man made chemicals it does not recognize.
i would recommend cranberry extract as being much better then cranberry juice. costco.com/trunature-Cranberry-300-mg%2c-250-Softgels.product.100214157.html
My mother as well has UTI s continously. In and out of the hospital, UTI s leaving her a little worse and losing more memory. We are doing better and this is why and I hope it helps you. Staying clean Daily in the lower region and also drinking 4 16oz bottles of water to keep her hydrated and cleansed (flushed out) had helped tremendously. Try these two suggestions and I'm sure it will help. Good luck, it truly is a problem with the elderly.
My guns-urologist suggested d Mannose. Taking it daily with an antacid has made my chronic UTIs virtually disappear. Not sure if it’s just for women or does that matter when we get older. You can get it online or in a health food store.
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APFM does not endorse or recommend any provider. It is your sole responsibility to select the appropriate care for yourself or your loved one. We work with both you and the Participating Communities in your search. We do not permit our Advisors to have an ownership interest in Participating Communities.
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Then the facility will give Dad directions on how to keep the UTI from coming back. Such as if Dad wears Depend type garments, he needs to change frequently during the day. Cranberry juice is also recommended. My Dad's caregiver use to mix the cranberry juice with orange juice as the cranberry can have quite a bite.
My DH kept getting Thrush-Mouth until I found out to put him on Candida Control. Dehydration causes a lot of infections to keep coming back. It's hard to get the elderly to drink fluids - I know because my DH is 96 and it's a struggle. Why? Because then they have to pee more so the "logical" choice is to drink less. *sigh*
A good probiotic would help and did you know they're supposed to be refrigerated? I didn't and had to buy all new when I found out.
The above suggestions by freqflyer and JoAnn29 are well stated.
I have tried a series of Oil of Oregano (natural antibiotic) 3x/day for a month as well as MANY other natural remedies. That worked for a while.
At some point though, as we're experiencing now, the body's degeneration doesn't cooperate.
He has chosen to just live with it now (no more hospitals or urgent care or doctors). He's done trying and he seems to be doing just fine (!). No pain, always a good appetite...
One of his nurses said some live with UTIs for years. I was shocked and had no idea about that...
This basically means chronically having bacteria in the urine. It becomes very common as people get older, in part because the immune system gets weaker with age.
For this reason, it's really not appropriate to diagnose an older person with a UTI solely because a urine culture is positive. Instead, clinicians are supposed to check for symptoms like belly pain, pain with urination, and so forth.
Treating this condition with antibiotics does not improve outcomes.
I've written an article about it on my site, which has lots of links to the research and also some advice on how to determine whether an older person does have a UTI that should be treated. (It can be hard to tell in many cases.) Or you can learn more by searching online. good luck!
Here is a remedy that Works! Colloidal Silver 4oz three times a day for 7 to 10 days along with Pure organic Olive leaf extract two caps a day.
Both of these are natural remedies with zero side effects.
Colloidal Silver is better than any man made antibiotic out there.
But.. you must replace the good bacteria in the gut when taking it, which can be done by adding a good probiotic.
I dealt with these infections with my Mom and had tremendous success. In fact my family takes one ounce of colloidal silver everyday along with the olive leaf extract, and for over 7 years have had no need for doctors.
The body does well with what God gave us, not with man made chemicals it does not recognize.