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I would like some advice on how to deal with my new life with FIL. Me and my husband been married for 2 years now expecting our first child in November.


Few months ago my husband decided to move from our small apartment and bought a house so he can bring my sick FIL to live with us so he can take care of him more easily.


My DH has 3 other siblings that are not marrid but none of them are willing to take care of their dad or even help a little. They come visit on Sundays like strangers and act all lovey-dovey with their dad....


So my DH been spending hours everyday driving to his dad's house to take care of him. I didn't want to see my husband suffer so I said yes to moving into a bigger place and bringing FIL to live with us.


It's been few months now and it's been so hard for me and my husband to deal with this whole new life with FIL (it's been especially hard for me).


FIL has Parkinson's and been very dependent on my husband but since moving in with us he became extremely needy and dependent to a point where my husband doesn't have time to do work (he works from home). He doesn't have time for me, and I'm assuming he won't have time for our baby.


Each night I wake up 3 times to him calling my husband to his room when it's 3 am. Each time I wake up to his yelling my husbands name I get anxious and start breathing heavy.


It's so frustrating to wake up few times a night and struggle to fall back asleep especially being 9 months pregnant now.


I have been patient because I don't want my husband to worry about me because he's already dealing with sooo much and I don't want to add to his problems. But all I know is I'm not happy. I don't care that I have a nicer. bigger house. I don't even feel like I have my privacy anymore since my father in law can been coming in any room opening doors when he gets confused and doesn't know where his room is. We even came home to him sleeping in our bed. We have no time or energy for intimacy anymore and I know it's gonna get only worse from here


We won't be getting a caregiver for him since they tried that before and it didn't last. We won't put him in a nursing home since we are a culture that takes care of their elderly.


This past week or so have been very stressful and I been having some anxiety issues which I know is not good for me or my baby.


The sad thing is my husband is trying his best and being patient with his dad but his dad doesn't seem to appreciate it or at least show some compromising.


FIL can be verbally abusive and been telling us that we only took him in because of his money even though he barely has anything. He has been very mean to me on few occasions too, and when my husband is not around I have to deal with his hallucination episodes that can become extremely difficult and hard to witness.


My life is miserable to say the least, I'm depressed, and have no interest in anything anymore. All I wanna do is run as far away as possible from where I'm supposed to feel home.


How can this get better for everyone?? If it can get better..

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"We won't put him in a nursing home since we are a culture that takes care of their elderly".

Yeah.. so was mine. Pre 1970 when families had 6 adult kids to share the load, all lived locally & wives at home caring for babes & elders.

Now? 1-2 adult kids. Often living interstate or OS. Nearly all women in paid work outside home, cannot afford to stay home.

No-one wanted warehouses to park elders... but no better ideas are affordable here (wages are too high for live-in carers).

Zero adults at home to do the care-job. It's simple maths.

Your husband has an easy decision to make. But first he must change his thinking. That's the hard part.

He must get over his *Good-Son* ideal. There are MANY ways to be a *Good Son*.

Is being a Hero to your Dad but letting your wife & baby suffer a *Good Son*?
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Hi Sand22, I've almost been in your situation, except with a non-violent but clingy MIL. If this is your first baby, you understand conceptually that Baby will be awake and hungry most of the time, and you're not going to get much sleep (maybe at most 4 hours in one stretch). The reality is that you probably won't sleep hardly at all during the first 3 months (unless you have some rare luck), and the lack of sleep alone might make you feel like you're going insane. It's been recent enough for me that I remember these days like yesterday. Add in a violent, older man who roams the house sometimes not in the "right" state of mind, and you already feeling that this isn't a safe, secure home... this will only get much worse after Baby is born and you're at home trying to cope with the birth, having Baby glued to you almost constantly, and resenting DH for the entire situation. I was in a newborn baby haze and barely able to protest when DH invited MIL to move into our house. I grew to deeply resent DH and the situation (different reasons, but the same feeling of wanting to run away as far as possible), and my marriage has suffered a lot. The physical security of you and Baby are paramount here, and you need a place where you can rest peacefully and feel comfort in your home to take care of Baby without feeling a fight-or-flight response at any random moment. Having FIL around will impact you and Baby, no matter what your cultural obligation is to not put FIL in a nursing home. It will also be hard on DH to care for FIL and take care of you after Baby is born. For your sake, for Baby's sake, for the sake of your marriage, work with DH to find a solution for FIL to move out. Or you can move you and Baby into one of DH's 3 siblings and tell them you and Baby are a better option than FIL. ;-)
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It looks like her account is closed from the profile page.

Poor woman, facing being a solo parent so her husband can take care of his ungrateful, no boundaries dad.

So sad for the new life she is bringing into this crazy world.
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I'm going to be a little blunt here and hope for the best. I strongly suspect that once your baby is born - your mama bear instinct is going to trump that culture card pretty quickly. I know the the cultural instinct is very strong - especially when it comes to caring for elderly loved ones and I 100% respect that. And I don't mean to put too fine of a point on it, but I had a good friend in your shoes. Her in-laws moved in when they were newlyweds. FIL was ill - dementia - and MIL needed help caring for him. He had hallucinations and was violent and her DH was an only child. It was manageable for a while with three healthy adults - though it was VERY stressful.
Then she got pregnant. And he got worse. And when the baby was born, the baby had colic and cried - a lot-and it irritated her FIL. And he made threats against the baby and escalated to banging on the bedroom door when the baby would cry for extended periods of time and scream and yell and at one point it got to the point where he almost took the door off the hinges with his violence. They had actually installed extra locks on the bedroom door and they didn't even put the baby in the nursery ever. The baby was NEVER out of her sight. She wore the baby everywhere unless her husband had her. She wouldn't even let her MIL hold her unless one of them was in the room with her and the baby was never in the room with FIL. Things didn't calm down, they got worse and worse and it turned out the baby had Reflux - which my own daughter had - and can last a while for a little one and causes them a lot of pain and they have to be in certain positions to sleep and they cry ALL of the time even on medication (at least mine did and that was the case here too.) And the crying just set her FIL off. He just couldn't take it. Their home life was hell. He escalated and escalated and there were literally marks on their bedroom door she said. So they finally had to pick between their baby's safety in their home or FIL staying there, and let's face it - if we are honest - it was also FIL's safety - because who knows what he was actually capable of or what he was actually thinking he was hearing when the baby was crying -no one was really safe by then including her FIL.

So they all agreed - including her MIL - that it was better for everyone that he move to a memory care facility. And it was hard, there was a lot of guilt. But it was the best decision. Because there wasn't a lot of distraction there for him. There was a routine. There was consistency. He had him own space. He didn't have to compete with the baby.

Because let's face it. Your baby isn't here yet. But when your baby gets here - you are NOT going to want to split your attention between your child and your FIL. And your priority is 100% going to be your child. And the instant your FIL behaves in anyway dangerously towards or near your baby - all bets are going to be off - I promise you.
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Lizbitty Nov 2021
Very well said. As prepared as you think you are for your new baby, you aren’t. No one is the first time. I can’t imagine having a dementia parent thrown in the mix, too.

Hard decisions lie ahead. That’s just a fact, whether or not you and your husband choose right now to admit it. His condition will only get worse, and babies go through sleep regressions when they’re growing, which means intermittent bouts of uncontrollable crying.

The safety of everyone is paramount. You need to have a worst case scenario talk with your husband so you’re both mentally prepared to make some tough choices.
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Since it's your only variable... I'm going to suggest moving him out.

Sometimes the simplest solution is the best.

Honestly, anytime someone plays the "culture" card, I'm reminded of the scene in Jurassic Park when Jeff Goldblum walks up to a pile of dino poop. It is indeed a one big pile of s***.
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I wonder if the OP will be back. I think she expected us to tell her how to get her H's sibs to get involved. I half-wonder if she also thinks there is a way to make her FIL behave differently.

I have a feeling this is a situation where nothing will be done. I sure hope she and/or the baby don't become physically injured during one of FIL's hallucinatory episodes!!! And if it does happen, she will need to go to a domestic violence shelter.

I hope she comes back and responds, or else I will assume she is sacrificing all to the altar of her culture's "mustn't put elders in facilities" misguided belief.
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This ‘culture’ pistol to the head reminds me of the evil days of British colonialism in India, when there was huge local opposition to the British crack-down on burning widows on the deceased husband’s funeral pyre. “It’s our culture!” The British response was “Yes, and it’s our culture to hang the people that do it”. Move along to genital mutilation for girls, cannibalism for Melanesians, Eunachs for the sultan’s harem, no votes or education for women – none of us want to live with the totality of our ‘cultures’, no matter what the priest or our parents say. Stand up for common sense!
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Is there any chance that you can go live with your mother (if she is alive & well) at least on a temporary basis while you have to prepare for having your baby? You need to think of baby & you. You CANNOT TAKE ON BEING CAREGIVER TO SICK FIL!!! It Will fall on YOUR shoulders. Husband won’t be able to take care of you or baby. That’s a definite.

BTW, it’s not a matter of if but when FIL will become violent.

You’re in trouble & you have to act asap to save yourself & baby. I feel terrible for you. Hugs 🤗
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BeenThroughThis Nov 2021
I agree 100% with CaregiverL, who clearly states the truth: “You’re in trouble & you have to act asap to save yourself & baby”.

I read your question, Sand22, and I came to say in all sincerity and in all seriousness that you might need to move to a homeless shelter for women and children. Find addresses and phone numbers right now. Keep them in case you need them now or in future.

Your marriage is not worth saving, if in order to do so, you raise a screwed up kid who knows he or she comes second to Grandpa. Your actual life and that of your newborn child could be in danger from the man. If your husband is already so busy with his dad that he can’t even get his own work done, I envision him losing his job. Then where will you all be?

You will be in even worse trouble than you are now. Your precious baby must come first in all of this. Until you get this hellish mess straightened out, you must, I repeat you MUST get locks on all doors most especially to your own bedroom and that of your innocent baby.

I am sympathetic to the fact that you love your husband and want to please him, but his wishes must take a backseat to the health and welfare of you and your newborn.

I have never found myself in a position where I recommend the best action is to leave, now, and go to a homeless shelter but you are the first. To do nothing is the worst possible thing that can happen. I will pray for you and your baby, that you find help and a path forward. Angels come in many guises, and I hope some blog posters here can help you make the best possible choices for you and your baby’s future.
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You are both in a hard situation.

With a baby on the way - you are realizing something has to change and like many of us - the choices are slim.

I would reach out to your local council on aging and ask about local programs in your area (he may qualify for some free aide hours or adult daycare programs). You could request a social worker as well through Medicare or Medicaid that may be able to guide you on additional resources he may qualify for.

Reach out to your community through the above - just see what is out there - even having that knowledge may help you both going forward with decisions at a later time if necessary. Even maybe touring some places locally now before the baby comes in case it becomes overwhelming. Prepare ahead.

My moms stroke did not allow me to prepare or build a team or have knowledge of anything. It is so overwhelming.
I understand the hesitancy with nursing homes as they are horrific in my area of south Florida in regard to my mothers needs. Your Fil may fit well into one in community - but I do understand that sometimes there is no good fit so you just have to try to think of additional resources in your area.
There is one in my area that my mom could go to the day center - they even offer transportation as well as in home aide hours - meals sent to the home etc. when I had to travel to outpatient rehab I used the CNA hour and they were a huge help when we had to travel out.
I wish you and you family the best in finding some local chapters for elder care that can help provide some relief and guidance for you all.
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First off, find a counselor for yourself right away. You seriously need the help & direction of someone who knows how much this is taking a toll on everything about your life. About you FIL's lack of appreciation: it's not going to happen. His brain does not process what's going on as different. For him, what he's doing is right in his mind. I would start by putting keyed door knobs on all doors you don't want him to open. Try setting up both the couch & his room similarly. That might help him feel more comfortable & stay put longer. Finally, call your local Senior Services Center or Department on Aging for help. Most of the time they work thru the state to help get in care for FREE that Medicare/Medicaid will cover. They'll do an inhome assessment and interview to find out the extent of the needed services then figue how many hours he qualifies for. I did that for Mom 4 years ago. Initially she was only qualified for 12 hr/wk but now she's max'd out at 24 hr/wk. The nurse has been a Godsend. Considering his advanced state and the fact that you're close to bringing home a new bundle of joy; I'd highly suggest you make the call ASAP. Let them know you're 9 mo and close to delivery; which will make them hurry up a little quicker to get you help.
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This can certainly get better for everyone, but how do YOU think things can get better if there can't be caregivers and FIL can't go to a facility?

You will be sacrificing your and your baby's health and wellbeing (and surely your husband's, too) to the altar of cultural expectations.
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In have a idea of what your going through I take care a my partner who had a stroke at 45 we are both still young but we live like old people we don’t have a life he never leaves the house I look after him I have lost all my friends my family don’t bother with me I feel like I am on my own and feel depressed most days it’s not fair so I do understand how you feel and it must be hard for you and you must be exhausted because I am .
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My dad, with Parkinson's, was not violent at all, ever. Having said that, I know many Park. patients who ARE violent. You really don't know how the disease will affect them.

It may be 'your culture' to care for your elders, but if that is to be, then the rest of the family MUST step up. That cannot apply just to you.

Look into NH's for dad. As much as your family may look down on you, you MUST self protect and you MUST protect that innocent baby!
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I did forget to add one important thing.
SAFETY. Yours, your child's, your husbands.
Parkinson's dementia often comes with paranoia, and as you mentioned the hallucinations but also sometimes unpredictable violence.
A friend of mine in a support group was awakened one night when her husband, with Parkinson's dementia had one hand wrapped around her neck and a knife in the other hand. Another friend came in from taking out garbage and was "greeted" by her husband holding a gun to her.
You can not take chances.
If it becomes unsafe for you or your child you must leave. If your husband chooses to remain and care for his father that is his choice.
If you are alone with FIL when / if he becomes violent you MUST call 911 and if possible LEAVE the house or lock yourself in a room that he can not get into.
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My heart goes out to yiu! For more than 12 years l was the sole caregiver for my husband who had Alzheimer's. Although he didn't have Parkinson's and didn't experience hallucinations, the caregiving burden was on my shoulders. Adult day care and occasional in-home caregivers from an agency saved my sanity. Your culture of caring for your elders is admirable in theory but not always practical. Your husband's siblings are obviously from the same culture, so they need to step up and live up to that custom. The best care for your FIL would likely be in a facility. If his siblings don't want to switch off weeks caring for THEIR father, you need to make that move for the sake of your marriage and the health of the baby. What does your culture say about broken marriages? You're possibly headed that direction. Your precious baby will need your every waking moment. And who knows how FIL will react to an infant. His hallucinations
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Nanja1 Nov 2021
Oops! The hallucinations could cause him to try and harm your baby. By all means, get a lock on that bedroom door!
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You say you won't get a caregiver to come into your home, nor will you consider placing him in managed care b/c it's 'not your culture' to do so. Then what type of answer are you looking for that will make things 'better for everyone'? Your FIL has Parkinson's related dementia which will only get worse and worse with time, and interfere with your life and worse, with your BABY'S life. Your DH will not be available to you or to your baby b/c he will be too busy trying to care for his father 24/7. Your FIL cannot show appreciation or any other positive emotion b/c he's got dementia which sucks the life and the joy out of him and out of you and your family. It's a no-win situation for EVERYONE.

Change your thinking right away or else your lives will continue to be destroyed by a man who cannot help what this disease is doing to his mind and his body. Ditch the 'cultural expectations' and face the reality that neither of you can or should be expected to care for this man when you're incapable of doing so. You're not qualified, medically, or prepared emotionally, nor should your child be subjected to such a life! Speak to your DH and decide what to do moving forward. The stigmas associated with nursing homes are unwarranted & frankly, ridiculous! You can be a daily visitor and go see him there where he's cared for by a team of qualified caregivers 24/7, think of it that way.

Best of luck
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Cover99 Nov 2021
Not so fast about NHs: there is a story of one in Salisbury NC facility where a resident was seen eating a mouse, and the nurse failed to quickly tell the doctor, because she thought the DON would do so,
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The best thing to do is talk I don’t have anyone to talk to hopefully I can get some help from this site
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I feel for you I really do I feel the same me and my partner are in our mid 40s and he’s had a stroke and he moods are just horrible I feel down everyday and wonder if he will be in a good mood it’s no way to live is it I feel things need to change in my situation I have no friends no one to talk to I do feel alone hope you feel better soon
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Have you told your husband how you feel?
This will become totally unmanageable when the baby comes. Your husbands priority will HAVE to shift to you and the newborn.
And you must make it VERY clear that with a baby you will not have time or energy to care give for FIL .
Looking for Assisted Living for FIL is probably the best option. Caring for FIL is not going to get easier. It will become more difficult, time consuming and probably at the time your child is getting to a stage where he or she will need more attention (and adding the possibility of a second child...)
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Sand22 Nov 2021
Thank you for your advice.
Yes, I have told my husband how I feel right from the beginning when I saw how difficult things are. He's at a point of a breakdown too but he tells me that he doesn't have an answer for me. He tells me he understands and knows how hard this is but there's nothing he can do as he doesn't want his dad in a nursing home. It would've been helpful if each of the siblings took him for a week or so but that's why we are here to start with, none of them wanted to do that.
As far as having a caregiver, first, we have to find someone that speaks the same language as my FIL, and also we can't afford to pay a caregiver out of pocket right now as it gets pretty expensive, especially that we are preparing for a newborn.
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Your FIL has Dementia caused by the Parkinson's. Because of this he cannot show empathy or appreciation. His cannot be reasoned with. Has a hard time processing what is said to him. Short term memory loss does not allow him to remember from one day to next or minute to minute what was said to him. The hallucinations, there are medications for that. Same for getting him to sleep for the night.

Do you feel in danger during the hallucination episodes? Tell your husband if u do. IMO, your FIL needs more care than you can give him. He needs to be placed in a facility. You should not be expected to care for FIL and a baby too.
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Hit the Airbnb website and see what's available, book, then say bye, I'll may be back after the baby is born, let hubby deal with his father alone for awhile. Look after you. Good Luck
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