My MIL is 85 and lives fairly independently alone in her house. I see her every other day and keep an eye on her health and physical issues. Though she is getting frail, I had no idea that her “executive function” was slipping. Last week I discovered (too late) that she was scammed out of $20K after clicking on a phishing link. One of those ridiculous stories that you think no-one in their right mind would fall for… helping the FBI catch a child trafficking ring by letting them “trace the money” using her cash. The money is gone (we contacted the bank, police, real FBI) but what now for MIL? Clearly she is vulnerable and unable to recognize bad decisions. Otherwise she seems ok (we are getting a doc evaluation next week). I don’t want to take away her computer as it’s an important social outlet, but how to protect her when no-one is there?
https://www.pcmag.com/picks/the-best-parental-control-software - if she's on Apple: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201304
Anyway, the issue seems to be access to her bank account or eventually, her debit/credit card. Many people here have suggested that you become the gate-keeper for access to those accounts. That's a good idea. It's tedious to set up, but once you do, it should be fairly automatic. You shouldn't have to monitor her email.
Whether or not you gain gatekeeper capability, she should put a freeze on her credit card account through Experian, TransUnion or Equifax. It protects her from identity theft because creditors won't have access to her credit records, & people can't open an account in her name.
Unless someone is willing to live with MIL to oversee all that is going on then you will constantly be on pins and needles wondering what’s next.
When one’s executive function weakens, vultures sense their pry.
Before you know it, there will be vultures all around MIL and she will fight you because these friendly vultures are her friends. Everyone who calls or visits is her friend and you become the enemy if you get in the way.
My dad was starting to get scammed via telephone from guys in Jamaica. They cold call hundreds of numbers until they find a lonely elderly person. Then called 5am till 12 at night. My mom was working. Even telling them to stop calling didn't work. I knew it wouldn't.
Take her to adult day care. Or an elderly social group. She doesn't need the computer. If you must, get a child monitoring software on there that you have an app on your phone. But how will you see what's happening in real time vs hours later after the fact? By then it will be too late. Scammers are very crafty. They can actually turn your loved one into someone you don't recognize. My dad was convinced he won the Walmart lottery altho admitted he never entered. There is no such thing. He wouldn't believe mom, my sibling or me, other family. Said we were jealous? Would not give in or let up on it. Finally mom had him call Walmart supervisor and they told him it's bogus.
Look at the lonely heart scammers on Dr Phil. Their family and friends told the person loosing their life savings, it was a scam. The elderly person still didn't believe it, dug their heels in even more. They didnt even believe Dr phil when he had the person investigated. I would never trust the internet with an elderly person. Ever.
You can always say you were on the computer and it got a virus. Cut the cord. Password protected it so she can't get on. Say a weird screen came on and locked it down. Oh no a horrible virus crashed it. No money to fix it. Or take it to get fake fixed and dont return it. Still at the shop sorry. She doesn't need the internet. It is nothing but trouble and now they got a live one. They can call her back any time. Get a woman to contact her. Get a group to contact her. They have all day every day to figure out how to reel her back in.
Is she still able to go to the bank and pull money out????
Get mail sent to your house.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=abJ7tCOzY98
He also agreed that no funds would be donated to any institution, charity, or organization that paid its CEO or other staff $100K or over. So from then on, whenever he got a solicitation, he called me, I checked out the salaries and told him what the CEO and staff were making. I also checked out salaries of organizations to which he had already donated. The concept that someone could make $100K (at that time, some years ago) w/o real down to earth work was so offensive that the new procedure was implemented easily.
If she only uses certain websites - I would suggest parental controls. As long as you feel those sites are safe and not the ones that offered the link in the first place. You can choose what sites she visits and block others entirely. Anything else she wants to visit she would need to vet with you and you could add to the approved list.
Get a good tech support for her computer - either through her ISP or her computer provider. They charge for premium support but it's a good back up and they can help right away.
Get a good popup blocker and keep it turned on. This will catch the vast majority of popups and a decent number of link popups that come up that are just garbage to begin with. This will hopefully also catch any popups that try to give them a number to call with anything that might slip through.
These types of things come in via cell phone too. Via email or text. I suggest prescreening email if you can - this could have potentially been the source on the computer or even a Facebook messenger link.
For the phone there is also Telecalm if you are concerned about what calls are coming and going. (but that has a hefty fee). There are other programs like it as well.
Text messages -for my FIL he doesn't really understand technology very well - just well enough to *use* it to make it go but not really well enough to make it work well if that makes sense. So text messages he gets them but he doesn't respond to them except by accident (except for the odd deliberate ones that take him FOREVER to actually respond to correctly). So we go through his text messages and delete and clock the scams).
Here is the thing that the people that fall for scams the easiest don't seem to realize. The more vulnerable they are - the more vulnerable they are. By that I mean, the more you engage or respond in the slightest, the more you are going to receive. So if you are like my FIL, he ANSWERS every call, whether he recognizes the number or not, and he will talk to them....he will call unknown numbers back...he will click on links etc. Our only saving grace so far has been two parts - first SIL/BIL have mostly walked in and interrupted him selling his life on the open market a number of times and second FIL stops short of giving out his bank account information because he gets suspicious (right now anyway). But the reality for most people that are self aware is that we recognize that scammers are selling our information every time we react- so we ignore them. Every time our loved ones react - their information gets sold. We did the math once. There are 8 of us in the immediate family - not counting FIL. TOGETHER we probably get 25 'scam' type calls or texts in a given week across 8 cell phones. So roughly 3 each. FIL gets that 25 in a DAY across 2 phones (home and cell) - because he engages them, he picks up the phone on both. We've tried to tell him that they sell his numbers and every time we 'kill' one 5 more come to their funeral!
Good luck and I'm so sorry this happened!! We worry about this exact thing!
This will happen easily and certainly until she is basically wiped out.
If MIL fights this you are likely looking at her giving away all her money. It has happened to others.
The current favorite in fact IS child trafficking, which is virtually non existent in our country. Recent reports were on TV and radio about these scams. You can look it up on AARP also.
Sorry this happened, and yes, the money is gone. Time to make certain more doesn't follow it.
AARP has a LOT of info online about scams, the types, and etc. Not a lot of help to be had, however.
If she thinks of you as her "tech support" person she may be willing.