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Started the Medicaid process to prepare Doc for either home care or a facility. They sent a supplemental asking for lots of “household” financial documentation and proof. Does that mean I have to give my tax records and all financial info to them, too? Seems so intrusive and makes me not want to do this.


Very overwhelmed....and beyond frustrated. Came home from court today and FIVE HOURS LATER I can finally sit down to write this. Walk in to a complete and utter disaster of sh*t smeared on the floor, had a dozen diapers disgustingly smeared and used to clean the floor, the counter, the walls and the carpet again. Husband rushes home from the office - drops all he is doing, to come and shampoo the carpet AGAIN.


Doc took 3 showers at my repeated insistence as he dragged his feet and spread it on the carpet and his bed, and still had it smeared on his leg that I had to clean, along with all his bedding AGAIN. This was the first time we’ve had to deal with this level of bowel issues. Now we are past little spots or leakage from the diaper. Now we are past the line that I cannot stomache. Now what?


How do my home caregiving friends do it? How do you breathe?? Laundry is still going and I challenge any one of you mates to a contest of who goes through more laundry detergent or toilet paper - I guarantee you, I’d win by a mile. Gotta go shopping AGAIN to stock up for this merry go round. Then the septic company (who was just here 6 mos ago), just came to respond to our call that it already stinks - as if it can’t get worse - we need a whole new septic.


Unbelievable. I can’t do this anymore and I don’t want to deal with the state digging into our financials. I do not want this responsibility anymore but God help me, I see no way out without having to sacrifice even more than we already have. We have paid so much and I don’t want to spend another dime on this madness, we don’t deserve this! Feel like a whip driven slave to mental illness. What hurts the most is that I do not feel anything other than negative about Doc, and he has been my loving father for 20 years. In tears and emotional shambles right now. I hate dementia and I hope I never ever ever encounter it again in my life!!

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This sounds horrible. If FIL lives in your house, why does Medicaid need to see all of your financial info?

Too bad FIL (a former MD?) was financially irresponsible, but that doesn't mean YOU have to pay the price for it (which you are doing right now, correct, including a particularly high emotional price). I think you also mentioned in an earlier post that your own child(ren) haven't gotten the attention that they should have?

Things have gotten considerably worse than your posts of 5 months ago, yes? What was the result of all the testing that you wrote was going to be done?

You do NOT have to be stuck in this endless "chitpalooza" (word coined in another thread)!
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CaringForDoc Oct 2018
Now you’ve got me saying chitpalooza 🙃 good way to put it
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You need a vacation and a stiff drink!
Im so sorry to hear of all your "poopy" troubles. This situation has gotten out of hand and should not be tolerated any longer.

Medicaid should not be asking for any of YOUR cpersonal financial information. Of course, they have a right to know about his, since he's applying for government aid (Medicaid).
Do NOT agree to release your info or pay them anything on his behalf.

You need to get your father placed in a facility ASAP. Can you afford a couple of months care while you wait for Medicaid to go through? If not, (and I hate to say this) but take him to the ER for some complaint (maybe diarrhea) and then refuse to take him home. Explain you take care of your small grandchildren and they have come in contact with your fathers feces. That should start an immediate emergency placement while Medicaid is "pending".

I had to place my mom (stage 6 Alz) when she started being incontinent of stool. My hubby (her part time caregiver) drew the line at poop. 💩

Good luck. I know you are ready to tear your hair out. 😩
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Caring,

I just want to repeat what the others have said. Medicaid is interested in all things Doc. Financials, bank statements, investment information, properties, etc. This does not mean yours and your husbands or anyone else in the households financial information.

Be prepared, just because you submit something for Doc you may be asked to resubmit or submit for a third time. Things fall into a black hole, get lost. Keep copies of everything.

You really do sound exhausted. If you have started the Medicaid process there is light at the end of the tunnel.

Hang in there. (((Hugs)))
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Thank you for the caring responses, you guys remember my situation well. Doc was a practicing MD until recently, and yes things have rapidly devolved. Our two teenagers are angels about it, and understand Dzia Dzia (grandpa is Polish) needs help like a toddler, doing all they can do to contribute. But it all takes time, energy and money - that you can’t get back. I was shocked when we took him for an evaluation for dementia that the dr just asked several questions, conversation like with Doc, then talked to my husband and I for a bit and boom, he has some form of dementia. We were told to pick a Friday, any Friday, and call him when we are ready so we can take him to the ER. That he’d stay there likely for 3 days (max 21) and then he can move to a nursing home. We were told to go find a few we like, and I did go to one that I believe is a perfect home for him. We can wait for a bit to move on this, I was thinking after New Year, so we can all start fresh and get past this stressful but joyous upcoming season. I expressed this to the director, but we both agreed that anything can happen between now and then that may hasten the move. I will print out all his bank records for Medicaid and see how that goes. We’ve claimed him as a dependant for the last two years so I’m wondering if that makes us financially liable? Thanks to you all again for talking me back to sanity. This site helps more than words can say.
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Just brought Mom home from the nursing home with Hospice support. Even with this I get only minimal help and have to hire aides to assist me in running my own full-time nursing home. I have one on the way right now to help me get Mom up bathed, dressed, etc. and then let me run to gather many supplies necessary for her care. It is a thankless job and the courts and the n homes thing caregivers deserve nothing yet if we put a parent in a facility we pay 8 to 10k per month and hopefully that person has excellent insurance. Medicare pays very little. If you do not have a 2nd insurance to Medicare they will bill private pay until you get to a certain amount which is not much of your parents assets. I truly believe that home caregivers should be paid for what they are worth. A parent with the correct amount of support and a aides and nurses is much happier in a home with children. They aren't waiting hours for an aide to get to them because that aide is covering 10 people and it is almost impossible for that aide to do this. Yet the aides get paid very little in most n homes, they do the most difficult clean ups and the nurses also do not get paid enough in my opinion. There needs to be laws changed in n homes, through the medicaid system and through the courts to stop seeing caregivers and there to take the parents money and are owed nothing for what they do while they have to stop their lives and not every sleep well again. I am challenging this exact fact as my Mom is now home with me in her home, my sister is taking me to court for guardianship even though my Mom has all set up as she wants as far as her estate. PODs and TODs. Yet my sister wants to reverse all this and put it in a guardianship knowing my Mom cannot speak against this as she has been declared incompetent. I will go to court and see what the judge decides but I am almost ready to hand it all to my sister and say "get in here and change Moms pads (diapers) make sure her oxygen and pulse rate is correct many times during the day, make sure she gets fed enough, is moved enough, is socializing enough, and is happy. Do this for a week then tell me if you want to take Mom and all that goes with this job. I commend you for keeping your Father with you and the advice I give as the biggest thing is hire good help. That relieves you for hours and you can go do other things and give your mind a break. If this is not possible and there is really good insurance that will pay for the nursing home; then check out many and find the best fit then visit your Father there as often as you are able. Once he settles in he should be okay in a good facility.
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shad250 Oct 2018
Both homecare and NH do have one thing in common; a lot of turnover.
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Caring,

Glad you sound better this morning.

You mention you have claimed Doc as a dependent for the last couple years. I don’t know how or if this will change the Medicaid process at all. Let’s hope not.

Someone may come along that has experience with having claimed a parent as a dependent then applied for Medicaid.
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Caring, have you thought about consulting with an experienced Elder Care attorney?
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Interesting he was an MD. He does not have any medical friends or even the Hospital he practiced at if applicable, that would help him?
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First thing, if you know you be going somewhere for more than one hour, get a home health Aide ...2nd thing, your husband should not have to leave his job to come home to clean shit from carpet...get a carpet cleaning service....
Medicaid process is all about being intrusive...that’s what they are there for...was your father a Vet? He can get a lot of services if he was...You can get help w Medicaid application from Social a Worker or Dept of Aging.
I also suggest putting Dad on bathroom schedule & have Aide change his diapers ...good luck & hugs 🤗
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jacobsonbob Oct 2018
This reminds me of when my mother told me that when my sister (who is older than I am) was a toddler, she decided to "finger paint" the walls in her bedroom one day. Father had to come home to help clean up the walls, the bed, my sister, etc. as it apparently was an extremely messy job. However, toddlers grow out of this stage; demented elders don't.
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Just want to hug you all, especially Caregiver who has to wear a helmet and pads to bathe mom, makes me sad to hear that anyone lives that on a daily basis. Doc was a general practitioner decades ago, and most recently worked as an occupational physician for GM and Ford. He wasn’t in a hospital setting, rather he was the guy the line workers would go to for restrictions and the like for on the job injuries and conditions. He used to have a few dr friends but they’ve drifted or passed away with time since he has refused invites so many times beginning years ago. I wish we could call a carpet cleaning company, but they don’t clean walls and counter tops, and I’m not going to live with poop smeared in the carpet for days til they get here. I’m a neat freak so I’d go nuts waiting even 5 minutes, and certainly cannot afford to call a carpet cleaning co multiple times a week. As far as help goes, we have no extra money to hire help since we are working half time, and are still figuring out what help might be out there. Recently, my mom had a bad fall and broke her back. She had several people come to help, and each one just sat there like a lazy bum staring at the phone and it was a complete waste and disappointment, so me and my sisters help her instead. I call “workers” like that “clock watchers.” I’m not too keen on leaving the likes of those I’ve encountered alone in my house with so much confidential info of clients. No wonder there’s such a high turnover - none I’ve met yet take this job very seriously. I can’t take that risk. No one will care for your home or loved ones the way you do, and the best thing will be to move him into a home where they have full responsibility. Last night, I told him after cleaning a huge puddle of urine in his bathroom, that I don’t want him wearing his house slippers because he cannot feel if the floor is wet and is tracking it all over the house. He denied the urine was his (it’s his own bathroom), and shook his head in disbelief that he is doing that. I gently told him it is a part of life that we have to deal with, he’s at a stage in life when he needs extra help, and that I love him and that’s all he needs to remember. Soon we will have the conversation about going through the transition to a home. Even though he may not understand or remember, we will, and I think for our own conscience, it’s important to not spring such a drastic change on him without a word. I have not spoken to any elder law attorney at this point - what kind of info could they offer on our situation? I don’t think Doc is a vet, and there sure is no private insurance. Curious to know what a bathroom schedule is and how to enforce it? Sometimes, like right now on this quiet Saturday morning when all is peaceful, I wonder if it’s really that bad and if I’m doing the right thing to plan his exit. My heart is so twisted in knots - overcome by the uncertainty and guilt. Thank you all for accompanying me on this rocky road. You all are angels.
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Is your Dad (Doc) a Veteran?
If you do not know can you contact a Veterans Commission office or the VA and give them the info you do have, they can look up his info to determine if he is a Veteran. That will give you more help right there.

Personal opinion it sounds like you can not leave him alone at all.
Is it possible that you and your Husband can work out hours that will enable one or the other to be home when the other isn't?

Are there Adult Day Care programs in your area? He might be a great candidate for Adult Day Care. That would also give you a bit more freedom with your work schedule.

I would also check with the local Senior Center they may have help pr programs that might help in the way of caregivers or sitters for him as well as helping you navigate the systems as you apply for help.

Another great resource for you would be the Alzheimer's Association. You can call and talk to them at any time and you can ask what support groups there might be in your area as well as any other help they might offer.
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I think the doc you consulted gave excellent advice. Pick a Friday, any Friday, and call to get the ball rolling toward the nursing home you've picked out. I understand wanting one more holiday season at home, but the season could be far more joyous for everyone with professionals doing the heavy-lifting care of Doc and your family in a supporting role.

You certainly wouldn't be the first family to have an elder law attorney help with a Medicaid application. Have you considered it? Have you called your Area Agency on Aging to see if they have some help with applications available?

It is time for a change!
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igloo572 Oct 2018
Jeannie! Your back! Your back! Thanks for returning to AC!
so what’s this weekends cake?
& what’s your plan for Halloween... spooky or scary?
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First of all get him a casemanager at a mental health center...then he or she can help him get the right care...like a p.c.a. but...it sounds like an assisted living home would have more help for him..
Sounds like your pretty young and you need to be able to have a life of your own. Get a casemanager and they can help with any and all paperwork to get him in assisted living. AND YOU CAN STILL VISIT HIM...Like a couple times a week/month. This process could take a few months to a yr. But have patience..Hes your dad 😎
Im not a caregiver/p.c.a.
Im a client at a mental health center with a casemanager and therapist. I also have incontinence..both ends..i also have a bladder prolapse and a rectal prolapse herniated into bladder.
Yes i have mental illnesses and tons of chronic pain.
Im 55 and 1/2 yrs OLD..
Wish i could come help you and Doc / dad...but ???
I WILL BE PRAYING FOR YA"LL ...GOD LOVES YA"LL AND SO DO I ...MAY GOD INTERVINE AND SEND HELP...You do your part..(casemanager) and GOD WILL BLESS YOU WITH SO MUCH LOVE IN YOUR HEART FOR DAD AND GOD JUST MIGHT BLESS YOUR DAD TO GET BETTER if its in HIS WILL.
PRAYING FOR YOUR ENTIRE FAMILY AND COMMUNITY.
LOVE IN JESUS MIGHTY NAME..Georgia 🌹🐝🌹🙌
P.S. dont feel guilty...GOD understands and so do i...Thank you for careing enough to ask for help.
Its coming. 🌹🙌🌹
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God bless you and your family greatly for all you do for Doc.

I read your posts and I think what an amazing, loving family and how blessed this man is to have you all.

I pray that an elder law attorney can help you with the Medicaid application and get him placed where and when you desire.

Hugs to you all!🤗
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I too had my family helping to apply for Medicaid, but it got too overwhelming for all of us. So I hired a lawyer who handled the whole process. The application was approved On the first passj. I’ve been told that the first pass is almost always declined. It was painless and money well spent.as long a your money situation is legitimate you should have no problem going with a lawyer.

i don’t remember the lawyer's name. I looked him up on the web. Look for lawyers specializing in Medicaid.
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Caring,

An Elder Care Attorney may have someone in their office than can handle the Medicaid application, or advise as you go through the process.

My Moms Nursing Home Social Worker offered to handle the Medicaid Application. But, like you, There were a couple of possible stumbling blocks that I wanted answers for, so, I made an appt with my Moms Attorney. I learned a lot of things I didn’t even know I needed to know AND they had a retired Medicaid employee on their staff that handled Medicaid Applications.

Moms application took longer than the normal 3 months estimated at that time. It took 5 months.

So, yes, you DO need to see an Elder Care Attorney. If only for a consult to get a few questions answered. Ask the question about Doc having been claimed as your dependent first.

Good Luck. Glad you are having a quiet morning.
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Three years ago, when I was 78, I suddenly developed liquid diarrhea and bowel incontinence, at which point I started wearing Depends to bed and went to see a GI doc. He did colonoscopy and took lots of samples, ending in diagnosis of microcolitis--which has no cure. I found out from online colitis support that I could send a stool sample to a commercial laboratory to be tested for sensitivities to specific foods...so glad I did, as it turned out I am gluten sensitive. Sensitivity to many things can develop in old age as our immune systems start breaking down. Medicare did not pay for these tests--my GI doc (or rather the NP) gave me a diet for Irritable Bowel Syndrome, which is not what I have, I have Inflammatory Bowel Disease and they are treated differently. After six weeks on gluten free diet I was much better, although still not completely normal, whatever that is. I still need to "go" 2-3 times in early morning hours, but consistency is relatively normal and liquid diarrhea and sense of urgency is gone. To be safe, I use Imodium when I travel out of my time zone, which I still do a couple of times a year. Maybe you should try Imodium (one tablet/day) with your dad. Or spring for the test to get gluten tested (that lab also tests for sensitivity to lactose, egg and soy but I am still okay with those).
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Addie11 Feb 2019
Try adding over the counter fiber to your diet. You can get chewable and it will help with the bowel issues.
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I would go to local Dept. of Aging and get some guidance on your situation including the Medicaid process and possibly help find nursing home. Explore the possibility of getting counselling for yourself. look into getting an attorney. Your finances should not be required for this [unless you have custody/ tax benefits, It is important that you take care of yourself and your family first.
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My heart goes out to CaringforDoc for all you are doing and putting up with! I hope there are some elder services in your area that can relieve some of the load! Please seek out a local senior center or council on aging to see what's available. Try the town, county, and state levels. My qualified for an aide 3 mornings a week plus a lifeline, and we pay $69/month for it. Her hours and cost are based on needs and assets.
I downloaded the Medicaid application for my state, and I don't know how anyone can do it themselves! Even if I did, the chances of being approved would be slim. And the process would be long and frustrating since I'd be struggling to understand what info they want, going back and forth with more questions and corrections. By the way, lots of financial detail is REQUIRED, so we have to accept that. The elder care lawyer I spoke with charges a flat fee for handling the application, and his rate is $7500 to $10000, depending on the complexity of the situation/assets. Yikes! But I'm thinking it might be worth it since that's still less than 2 months of NH care. Other replies offer sources of help that may be cheaper, certainly worth a look!
Many of us share your feelings. You need to vent sometimes just to face the day. Please be kind to yourself and allow yourself whatever relief you can get.
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About the financial questions with the state looking into finances, there is a 5 year look back period where they have every right to look into Doc's history. They will NOT ask for your paperwork/finances. If it shows that Doc gave large sums of money to kids, to be able to get on medicare quicker, that will not fly. They are allowed to spend money on themselves to get their savings down to less then $2,000. (People buy electric recliners, walk in tubs, install chairs that go upstairs, etc.) Before medicare takes over Doc has to spend all his savings and he can't give it away.
Use all his savings to pay for 24/7 care to watch him not mess up your home. The state is quicker to help when you show all the paperwork of his savings of going to a person taking care of him. They also allow him to pay you as long as you have back paperwork that proves it week to week. They are VERY thorough before they put a person on Medicaid. Anything that remotely looks like you are trying to cheat will be caught. They are very good at their job.
It sounds like a never ending nightmare that you are going through right now with your husband. I am so thankful that you have the support of your husband. My husband has passed from cancer and now it is just me and my 95 year old Mom. I will never put her in a home, unless it is for end of life care.....
I know everyone can't do this.
Prayers and warm thoughts to you and hopes that you are able to get through this for a small light on the other side.
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Since Medicaid is medical aid from the State, they have every right to delve into your father's financial situation for the past five years. There is no way to avoid it. As others have said, it might be worth your peace of mind to hire an elder-care attorney to handle this process for you.

If you knew dad had a feces issue, why on earth was he left alone in the house for FIVE HOURS? That is akin to leaving a two-year-old child alone in a house. Please don't ever do that again. Please hire a caregiver for the times when you cannot be home to supervise him.
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foxxmolder Oct 2018
Go a little easy about leaving Doc alone in the house. A lot of people don't have the financial means to get help until all the paperwork is done for the state help. It seems you have an edge to your comments and that isn't much of a help on this site when all we are trying to do is keep our heads above the water line. I hope your own situation with an elderly loved one is going OK for you.
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CaringforDoc.

I can understand your thinking it would be nice to have Doc home for one more holiday season, but for me it would be a mistake. Far better to have fond memories of holidays with Doc, than ones where the festivities were interrupted by his incontinence and/or escalating poor judgement. You can always bring him home for a day from a nursing home.

Better to have a caregiver in the home minding Doc, than a poopy mess when you get home too. If you have confidential documents in your home, buy a locking filing cabinet, or put a lock on your office.

It is challenging to accept the new reality of Doc not being the same person he was just a few months ago. But accept it you must. After accepting it you must put into place the supports he (and you) need to avoid poop all over the house etc.

If any of Doc's funds have been comingled with yours, your husband's or the kids', then yes, Medicare will want the information.
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jacobsonbob Oct 2018
Tothill, I believe you meant MedicAID rather than MedicARE in you comment.
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It is very difficult and I totally understand. My mom is in beginning stages of dementia on set by stroke and has been incontinent the whole time. I cry a lot and pray daily and have a very supportive husband. I use exercise as my out... me time so I can cope. Hang in there 🙏🏾😇.
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Dear Caring... God help me, I am right there with you! Am 24/7 caring for my 84-year old husband and though I have not as yet had the feces smearing thing, I walked in the bathroom yesterday after helping him to sit, to find him rinsing his bowel movement into the sink, with it running down his legs and piles on the floor around the toilet. I was gagging at the smell and cleaning as fast as I caould. I stock up on paper towels and disinfecting wipes plus aloe wipes for him and ointment for his sore bottom, plus a urine disinfecting liquid for the many loads of wash. I sympathize with every word you say. I have no money at all for the kind of respite care that he now needs. He was a caring husband five years ago. He is a blank and empty shell now, yet he can somehow muster a semblance of "normalcy" when his adult children are around-which is rare. They are in full denial of the severity of his condition. I have completed the application process with California's Medi-Cal and now I wait for the first denial-at least two months. The psyche facility I was referred to by his PC, as it turns out, does not take dementia patients at all, and the geriatric psychiatrist does take Medicare-but only for the initial eval. After that she requires a monthly visit at $80 per month, not possible for us. I wish so much more for us all as we try to navigate a world where medical advances save lives, but nothing is being done to help families deal with the lives they are saving once dementia sets in.
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Hello,
A big advantage of having medi caid is it will pay for the incontinence supplies. That will be a big help because what you need are bed pads to place everywhere you can without causing an accident.

Also you can protect surfaces with big sheets of plastic as well. I layer protective sheets then I only have to scoop them up and place in a covered garbage can. They come in all sizes.

I put some pads on the mattress, more on the mattress pad and more on the bottom sheet. I put doubles on her tv recliner and I’ve put them under her feet in the living room too, for when she stands and it lets go.

You said his stools got runny recently. You should determine what triggered it. Or he may have a virus that once resolved will end your frustrations.

I realize he is making matters worse but try to appreciate his attempts to clean up. Maybe get some huge wet ones to help him do it. And invest in some rubber back rugs. It really help s.

I notice that when the dryer is running I can still smell the bad scents so I’m adding more soap and getting some boosters as well. I’m aware that I’m sensitive to the smell but so what? That means it’s not clean right?

Lastly, it is so much easier when you have such grossness to wear disposable gloves. That leaves you with just the smell to deal with. They say that coroners put Vick’s under their noses to alleviate the stench. They oughtta know!

Good luck,
Charlotte

ps Sorry, I cant think of anything for the visuals. Try and think happy thoughts. Or don’t think at all maybe.
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Glendaj2 Oct 2018
I put white vinegar in my wash, about a cup it helps with the smell and I always do a soak and extra rinse cycle.
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You convey everyone's greatest fears I think. Mine is so much simpler: Mom has never worn undies to sleep and so there have been some spots of poo staining that I have to pretreat, but nothing too horrible...not until today when I discovered her undies got soiled enough for her to change them and the heavily soiled stinky pair had been tossed down the laundry chute where dad throws his clothes etc. I threw out her undies, and went from there.
If you or your father have the finances, use some to connect with an elder law attorney to guide you through the process so you make the best financial decisions.
Other people have offered good advice as far as supplies; you might want to consider Costco? and there's a great company called HDIS that delivers to your door and it is their specialty.
Also, some people like carpet...others don't....and I hesitate to suggest this knowing your financial strain...but there are flooring options: one would be to get rid of your carpet and the padding and put in something hard and washable; there are also industrial type carpets meant to take abuse, some have carpet tiles and what gets wrecked gets lifted up and another tile gets put down. Or could at least be put outside until you have a chance to clean it if you want.

Will keep you in my thoughts and prayers. I'm so sorry all of us have to go through this. But I also know we have to remember our loved ones would not, do not want this to happen and have no control. It is a terrible feeling. I had a kidney stone a year ago, and came home after a day in the ER, and within a matter of hours was horrified and shocked that I just had absolutely no control over my bladder. Grateful that it was a short lived episode, but just stunned that it could happen and I couldn't for the life of me stop it. No one wants to...
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If it wasn't for Caregiver Nation(Facebook), I'd explode. We share a lot on there. Mom's medicaid United Health and medicare offer catalogs I can order from. I purchased a pkg of undies to be on safe side. Mom hasn't started the pooping but leaks urine at times. Then! She puts soiled undies back in drawer, under her pillow, or under bed. :/
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My mother did similar things about her pooped up underpants. She hand washed out a clean pair? I think not! Just tell me that you messed your undies. No dice.
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Medicaid will only be interested in your dad's finances. If he has been paying you for his care and upkeep then you will have to provide documentation that the money has been spent on his needs, such as transportation, medicines, clothing, incontenance supplies, etc.

I know this seems intrusive but Medicaid was designed to provide for people with no money or resources. The recipient has to spend most of their assets before Medicaid will pay for anything. He can have no more than $2000 monthly in income, cash etc. The government requires an accounting of the last 5 years to ensure that money is not being hidden through gifts or transfers to family.

if your father has assets you will have to spend the money down before he will be a candidate for Medicaid. This can even include a car that is needed for his use, special furniture, safety equipment, medical alert and similar high ticket items.

Have you consulted your states Senior Services office? They will be able to connect you with resources that may help you deal with some of your issues before he qualifies for Medicaid.
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Try stay positive thinking. Try to make others laugh during the day. Being 24/7 ain’t easy. I don’t think there is a instruction manual for what 24/7’s go through. I had
2 shots and ain’t liquor or drugs. 2 shots of being 247. I call my case a double dose. my mother first and now father. As long as you’re capable of making others laugh and not bringing them down too? At least accomplished something. You made them laugh and you gotta laugh after you made them laughing and it doesn’t stop through whole day. At least its positive way of thinking and laughing trying to make a daily activity . You don’t need to go see psychiatrist, take medication, and so on. Etc... Etc... I
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