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They're notoriously rigid about POAs because they want THEIR POA forms, not yours.
I suggest going to the bank (or whoever is giving you guff) and asking what they require in order to have them honor your POA. Sometimes it's just a matter of you filling out their form with your PON attached to it.
Did an attorney prepare the POA? Maybe have him write a letter verifying the legality of it that you can bring with you.
Are you sure the POA was done correctly with a notary's stamp?
If everything is legal and was done properly, put the ball in their court and make them tell you how they'll honor a legal piece of paper.
Some people from the forum have resorted to changing banks when theirs was inflexible. Also setting up online banking and automatic bill payments can bypass a lot of red tape.
MJ1929 is correct... most banks will make you go through their own paperwork to establish PoA with them (I did this with Wells Fargo, BoA, PNC and Old National).
Are you bringing the PoA documents with you to his medical appointments? Tell them you have the paperwork and they will scan it and put it in his records.
If "no one" is honoring it you need to ask them bluntly why not, assuming all the docs are properly executed.
You need to go to his bank with him and have paperwork for POA and healthcare proxy notarized at his bank with 2 witnesses . You can get the paperwork off the Internet. Then put your name on his accounts with his permission. Keep original copies in a safe place and make copies .
Perhaps he doesn't need to go to the bank. I opened an account for my disabled client who could not leave her apt. I took all her ID, etc. to the bank and the bank personnel called her to verify. I presume all was done according to the law / legal requirements.
This was about 6+- years ago. I don't think anything has changed. When a person is disabled, provisions need to be in place.
For instance, when my client needed her DMV ID card renewed, a DMV representative came to her apartment to handle this need.
Immediate means as soon as Dad signed it, it was in effect. Springing you need a doctor or more to say he in incompetent to make informed decisions. My Mom had a lawyer do her's IMO more valid. A lawyer is able to interview the principle and make sure they are competent and not being coerced.
My Bank did not require their own POA. They took my copy and made a copy. Same with doctors, hospitals and rehab.
By proceeding, I agree that I understand the following disclosures:
I. How We Work in Washington.
Based on your preferences, we provide you with information about one or more of our contracted senior living providers ("Participating Communities") and provide your Senior Living Care Information to Participating Communities. The Participating Communities may contact you directly regarding their services.
APFM does not endorse or recommend any provider. It is your sole responsibility to select the appropriate care for yourself or your loved one. We work with both you and the Participating Communities in your search. We do not permit our Advisors to have an ownership interest in Participating Communities.
II. How We Are Paid.
We do not charge you any fee – we are paid by the Participating Communities. Some Participating Communities pay us a percentage of the first month's standard rate for the rent and care services you select. We invoice these fees after the senior moves in.
III. When We Tour.
APFM tours certain Participating Communities in Washington (typically more in metropolitan areas than in rural areas.) During the 12 month period prior to December 31, 2017, we toured 86.2% of Participating Communities with capacity for 20 or more residents.
IV. No Obligation or Commitment.
You have no obligation to use or to continue to use our services. Because you pay no fee to us, you will never need to ask for a refund.
V. Complaints.
Please contact our Family Feedback Line at (866) 584-7340 or ConsumerFeedback@aplaceformom.com to report any complaint. Consumers have many avenues to address a dispute with any referral service company, including the right to file a complaint with the Attorney General's office at: Consumer Protection Division, 800 5th Avenue, Ste. 2000, Seattle, 98104 or 800-551-4636.
VI. No Waiver of Your Rights.
APFM does not (and may not) require or even ask consumers seeking senior housing or care services in Washington State to sign waivers of liability for losses of personal property or injury or to sign waivers of any rights established under law.
I agree that:
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I authorize A Place For Mom ("APFM") to collect certain personal and contact detail information, as well as relevant health care information about me or from me about the senior family member or relative I am assisting ("Senior Living Care Information").
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APFM may provide information to me electronically. My electronic signature on agreements and documents has the same effect as if I signed them in ink.
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APFM may send all communications to me electronically via e-mail or by access to an APFM web site.
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If I want a paper copy, I can print a copy of the Disclosures or download the Disclosures for my records.
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This E-Sign Acknowledgement and Authorization applies to these Disclosures and all future Disclosures related to APFM's services, unless I revoke my authorization. You may revoke this authorization in writing at any time (except where we have already disclosed information before receiving your revocation.) This authorization will expire after one year.
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You consent to APFM's reaching out to you using a phone system than can auto-dial numbers (we miss rotary phones, too!), but this consent is not required to use our service.
They're notoriously rigid about POAs because they want THEIR POA forms, not yours.
I suggest going to the bank (or whoever is giving you guff) and asking what they require in order to have them honor your POA. Sometimes it's just a matter of you filling out their form with your PON attached to it.
Did an attorney prepare the POA? Maybe have him write a letter verifying the legality of it that you can bring with you.
Are you sure the POA was done correctly with a notary's stamp?
If everything is legal and was done properly, put the ball in their court and make them tell you how they'll honor a legal piece of paper.
Are you bringing the PoA documents with you to his medical appointments? Tell them you have the paperwork and they will scan it and put it in his records.
If "no one" is honoring it you need to ask them bluntly why not, assuming all the docs are properly executed.
I never had any issues with doctors, in fact they wanted to tell me more than I wanted to know.
Is your name on any of his accounts? You may need to do that.
and have paperwork for POA and healthcare proxy notarized at his bank with 2 witnesses . You can get the paperwork off the Internet. Then put your name on his accounts with his permission. Keep original copies in a safe place and make copies .
I opened an account for my disabled client who could not leave her apt. I took all her ID, etc. to the bank and the bank personnel called her to verify.
I presume all was done according to the law / legal requirements.
This was about 6+- years ago. I don't think anything has changed.
When a person is disabled, provisions need to be in place.
For instance, when my client needed her DMV ID card renewed, a DMV representative came to her apartment to handle this need.
Gena / Touch Matters
Immediate means as soon as Dad signed it, it was in effect. Springing you need a doctor or more to say he in incompetent to make informed decisions. My Mom had a lawyer do her's IMO more valid. A lawyer is able to interview the principle and make sure they are competent and not being coerced.
My Bank did not require their own POA. They took my copy and made a copy. Same with doctors, hospitals and rehab.