Let me start by saying; It was my choice to move in. His mother & aunt had been going down south for the cold months. He lived at my home for the months they were gone. It was fantastic!
We were planning to get her set up out of state with caregivers and move into his home and rent mine. He was down south setting it up, I moved into his home and lived by myself for months. Then she had a fall, went to rehab and dementia set in very quickly. So now, she is here, along with her sister. It’s been one year and our relationship is declining rapidly.
I live in his home, with nothing of my own but my clothes. There is no space for anything of mine. He will not make a place for me because he doesn’t want to fight with his mom about getting rid of her things.
He is mad all the time. Between guilt, hate for having to take care of his mom and aunt, obligations, and feeling stuck, he is never present. TV, and video games are his escape. We have no privacy and our intimacy has almost disappeared.
I love him and was planning on spending the rest of my life with him. Now, not so sure. To be honest, I’m not willing to give up the years of vitality I have left to care for his family. I cook, clean, laundry, drive to appts and also am staring a new career. His family has longevity close to 100. I could be 65 before this ends. I’m currently 50.
Do I walk away? Am I making a mistake? I’m so tried, I have not slept well in a year. I look 10 years older, have mystery pains, I never had before. I’m sure due to stress. I’m exhausted!
He told me that he would understand if I left. Which upsets me, because I want to figure out a way to make this work. Multi family home, assisted living, something, anything, but he says he has no idea to how to do it. So he shuts it all out and does nothing.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated! Thank you.
"His ex wife and ex girlfriend told him that he was not present during their relationships either, so he knows. I guess, I was hoping things would change."
I'm glad I waited. These statements speak volumes. This IS who he is. You can hope all you want for change, but even if he were younger, I'd say don't count on it. This IS who he is and he isn't likely to change.
"I live in his home, with nothing of my own but my clothes."
"He will not make a place for me because he doesn’t want to fight with his mom about getting rid of her things."
You aren't LIVING in his home, you're basically living in a hotel, of sorts.
"He is mad all the time. Between guilt, hate for having to take care of his mom and aunt, obligations, and feeling stuck, he is never present."
Despite what one commenter has been saying, this is someone who DOESN'T want to provide the care, but is also too worried about how things would "look" if he moved them to a facility. Hmmm, he wasn't concerned about how it would look when he went south to "make arrangements", was he? What's changed? Oh, he has a FREE care-giver.
"TV, and video games are his escape. We have no privacy and our intimacy has almost disappeared."
I understand people sometimes need an "escape", but when he's "escaping" all the time, what relationship do you even have at this point?
If you'd had a good relationship, marriage or not, for years and agreed to help him care for these two, that might be different. Being thrust into this and then left to fend for yourself, without even really "living" in the home is asking a bit much from a "partner".
"I cook, clean, laundry, drive to appts..."
What does he contribute? Anything?
"... and also am staring a new career."
Yes, caregiver and nursemaid for three.
"I’m so tried, I have not slept well in a year. I look 10 years older, have mystery pains, I never had before. I’m sure due to stress. I’m exhausted!"
Your emotions may be holding sway over you, but your body is sending you messages. Maybe time to listen?
"...I want to figure out a way to make this work. Multi family home, assisted living, something, anything, but he says he has no idea to how to do it. So he shuts it all out and does nothing."
It'll take TWO to make it work. He was, so you thought, planning to set this all up "down south." Why is it any more difficult now? YOU have no real say in where they'll live or who will provide the care (at this point YOU are the care - why would he want to change anything?)
Rather than just say move out and move on, here's how I instructed my daughter, when she was nearly an adult and starting relationships:
1) Make two lists, things you like about this person and things you don't like.
For clarification, this means things you like/don't like, NOT what's good or bad.
Good and bad are judgements. Like/don't like are impressions.
2) Weigh the items on these lists, very carefully.
3) Decide if you can live with the things you don't like.
This is because you CAN'T change another person.
If you can live with the things you don't like, it *might* work.
If you can't live with the thing you don't like, it'll never work and you'd most likely continue to be (or become more) miserable.
You wrote:
"I don’t feel stuck, but was really, really hoping he would put me first. My mistake completely for waiting. I hate having to start over. My mother says “you need to take care of your treasures,” he doesn’t see me as such. She said, I am the treasure and should not devalue who I am."
It's been a year of this. Consider it a year of education. Starting over might take time, but what's worse, spending that time still waiting for things to change or perhaps finding the right person?
Your mother is a wise woman.
Take time away from the situation (is your home available still?) Make those lists and do some REAL thinking.
So, AC why did BigRed say I was compassionate and she was upvoting my answer and that of all things was deleted but all the attacks about non compassion and suicide are left up?
I understand you want me to be the resident bad guy but this is taking it too far, just like before. I have obeyed your rules, not went after WIC or ITRR as requested, no likes, no responses, nothing.
So why does one nice thing about me get deleted but this other instigating BS get left up?
1. Why don't the 2 of you agree to have an evening talking between the two of you --of possible scenarios. Yes, you should probably do a bit of homework first so that you two can talk with some specificity. Agree to talk again in 1 week to DECIDE.
2.If they had been in helping facilities before, it appears there is $$ to pay for some home care (cleaning, laundry, appointments, meal prep) (I hope you aren't falling into the martyr camp. Also, what is the son/nephew doing to help?)
3. If the two of you are indeed caring for both, what are each of you doing to contribute to the family? He might need a kind explanation of the amount that has to be done. You have jumped in so easily, he may think it is easy.
4. What can the Aunt contribute? Money, laundry, meal prep, setting the table? Find something that will make her feel useful. She will truly appreciate it.
5. Don't threaten to leave. That makes you as much as an ostrich in the sand as he. You need to work together --as a couple, friends or more-- to find the best solution for all of you.
6. Why worrry about the intimacy --in the living or bedroom? They know what it's about. Why are you hiding your feeling for each other? Do any of you show any affection for each other?
7. You are the smart one at the moment...remember that.
My husband has been gone for over a year. I was but no longer am caregiving. I basically am happy the way I am. I don't want to care for anyone else ever again so I would definately be very hesitant to be with any man.
I am older than you but I can see where this could go on for quite some time taking your younger years and chances of finding another relationship a lot less likely if that's what you want.
I realize it is hard and is moneywise sometimes impossible for your friend to make other arrangements even if he really wants to do so. But, at the same time, is that how you want to live the rest of your life if that is so. The longer you wait, the harder it will become for you. I agree with the other lady, if he is really interested in making a change and having a life with you, he will figure things out. If he doesn't then maybe he doesn't care for you as much as you need him too.
As you get older, you realize how precious life really is. Don't wake up wondering where all the years went and wondering what if this or that. Take care of yourself. Sometimes that's the right thing to do even though it is hard.
you can still continue to see him if that is what you want but this will force him to figure things out.
You know, by leaving for even a weekend or 1-2 weeks, your partner may have a *A'Ha!* moment 💡💡
He may realize his life CAN be different to what it currently is or is turning into. It may really help ALL of you towards a new plan.
You already know what you want/need. Don't feel guilty leaving, it sounds like he is not that invested anyway or just feels trapped and knows he has nothing to offer.
Go and have the vitality, but have more of it than you previously would have imagined.. loads more of it. Take this as a lesson life is short and mistakes are easily made. It is NOT going to get better. Run, run, run. oh and by the way...run.
Do it for those of us who can't.
If you could find a 4-5 bedroom home, or one with two separate living areas - you/partner would have a living area and they would, too. They would be able to have some/all of their belongings (depending on what they have). The rest can go to storage if they aren't willing to sell it.
If it's going to continue as is, in his house, this isn't going to work because you don't feel at home - he's drowning in what he feels as obligation - and the elders don't seem to be willing to budge to let you feel at home. You two aren't going to get happier together; you're going to make the divide even bigger. So that means it's time to move on down the road and go back to your own home.
I read your posting again just now because it popped up in my news feed.
I would like you to carefully read your own words. They speak volumes!
This is why therapists suggest journaling.
Journaling is extremely useful for tracking our emotions.
You don’t have to necessarily write a book either. That’s not the purpose of journaling. It’s simply to express your thoughts.
It’s beneficial to review your past entries in your journal.
You will see if you are stuck. You will see if you are making progress and so on.
You will also see your emotions staring you in the face as plain as day, in black and white in your own personal journal, in your own words and from your heart.
Your words do not describe a woman who is secure in her relationship. You are questioning everything!
Have you considered seeing an outside, objective professional therapist to help sort out your feelings about this situation? I believe that it would do a world of good.
Those close to you are going to be concerned about hurting your feelings, etc.
Find someone that has experience in relationship issues and lay it all out on the table. If you don’t like a therapist for valid reasons, switch to a new one.
Therapy is a safe place to sort through your feelings.
Just make sure that you stay with it long enough to help.
If you only participate in therapy for a short period of time, you will shortchange yourself. You must be willing to invest enough time and energy in order to receive help. It’s hard work but well worth it.
Do not be offended by a therapist if their viewpoint is different from yours. Give yourself time to process the information.
Go, tell a professional everything that you told us and see what unfolds.
You just may find yourself receiving validation for all of your feelings that you expressed.
Don’t take that validation for granted. It means something.
Wishing you the very best in life. You deserve to be happy and fulfilled in your life.
If something is blocking any of your goals in life, close the door.
If you should leave him, take time to mourn any losses and dreams that you hoped for with this man.
Be open for new doors to open. Use this experience as a learning experience and remember that with everything experience, good and bad, we learn and grow.
Visit him if you want but do not stay in his mother's home. You would do better to be rested and then visit him with a positive attitude and lift his spirits.
Perhaps your leaving will make him have to move from his dependence on inaction and make plans. Because right now you are doing what he needs to be doing.
Anyway, do you have a PCP? Have him order a social worker for YOU to come to the home. They can act as a mediator and help refer services for the elders to help both of you out. Sometimes it takes bringing a third party in.
My husband and I take care of my nearly 90 year old, narcissistic mother who is also on dialysis. Don't know if you're familiar with narcissism, but it's along the lines of dementia as far as difficulty is concerned. Both are mental illnesses.
My husband should not have to deal with her, but he does. Why? Because he loves me and we both said "for better or worse". Our relationship will, God willing, last longer than my mother will.
Just my humble opinion and two cents worth.
Is that where you want to be for a prolonged time?
I heard an interesting saying... "Indecision is your decision not to decide." While you are still able to think clearly now, you should have your own place to think things through. There may be agencies that can help these women. Your male friend will have to rise to the occasion, not drag you down. When you have your own place, you can help him perhaps by making some phone calls to see how these women can be helped in this situation.
The time to get out of a toxic situation is when you can't sleep well and foresee a decline in health for your future.
The city no one wants to visit is "Adverse"-City (adversity) -- but since you are there now, it sounds like you are on the right track out.
Wishing you future happiness. I have not had the time to read other's comments, but Aging Care has been such a therapeutic place for me to visit, that it's helped a great deal with my situation.
Blessings to you...
The silver lining: he is trying to take care of them personally, not just put them somewhere. In my opinion, that speaks volumes about his character and how he would help you -or someone in your family - if needed.
The video games as escape may indicate a bit of depression. I was depressed when taking care of aging family, so I understand. It is hard to watch the decline of a loved one, let alone two.
The choice is yours: be his superhero or bow out and gain your complete freedom. There is no wrong answer. If you are going to leave anyway, sooner is better than later (for both of you).
What type of things do you have that you are doing without? Furniture, wall decor, clocks, knickknacks? Bring them. You lived there without him for a time—don’t ask. You live there too. Bring your favorites.
Tell Mom the truth: you love your things and miss them terribly. Don’t remove her favorite chair, but ask her, if possible during a lucid moment, which are HER favorite things. And keep those. Or ask your partner which are mom’s favorite things. You could box up her other items and store a few boxes in her closet. You live there, too!
Definitely get some in-home relief—twice or thrice a week or even daily. This is what your partner would need to do if you weren’t in the picture, unless he can stay home with the ladies? If so, sign him up!
Get off the doormat!