I married last year. My MIL had been living with my husband, but she was having a house built, and was supposed to be going to stay with someone until she could move in, so we would have our privacy as newlyweds. Well, “staying with someone” ended up with her at our home all day, and only leaving at night to sleep, until she decided her poor back really needed her own bed and she stopped leaving at night. Then she decided she didn’t like the new house, and told the builders to keep it.
It’s been over a year now, and my husband says she’s still planning to move, but there were no good homes for sale in the area, and now with Covid she isn’t even looking. I hate living here, MIL runs the house, and my husband gets mad if I even mention trying to tell her anything. I feel like I’ve got to hide away in another room all day, and she’ll still come find me in there. Her friend also comes over all day, every day, and they have loud conversations and watch loud tv.
I’ve tried telling my husband how unhappy and uncomfortable I am with the living arrangement, but he’ll just say he’s sorry I’m unhappy and won’t try to make any changes. He says she’s in poor health and we have to be nice. Though if I mention how if her health is so bad, maybe she should look into senior living, he says she’s a strong, capable woman.
She’s only in her 60s, and her own mother is still living (in a nursing home) in her 80s. I didn’t agree to live with another woman in the home, and I certainly can’t go on like this for another 20 or 30 years. I don’t want to leave my husband, but what can I do to let him and her know that this is an unacceptable way to live, besides packing my bags and leaving? The way things have gone so far, if I tell my husband it’s me or his mother, I’m not sure he’s going to pick me.
My advice: RUN!
You married a fantasy of what he could be, of what life could be, rather than what is.
You are not a victim in this, you helped to create it. End it. Get some counseling that will provide you with the skills to make healthier choices to build a beautiful life in your future. Everybody deserves a beautiful life.
Good luck!
DO not even think about having a child now.
As a matter of fact I think I would be wearing a "onsie" to bed until this is straightened out.
"...she was having a house built..."
Was she really, or is that the story you were told? As others noted, generally having a house built requires a contract, commitment and non-refundable good-sized deposit! Did you ever see the location, plans, anything?
"...and was supposed to be going to stay with someone until she could move in, so we would have our privacy as newlyweds."
Although she was there during the day, she, in her own way, granted you the "newlywed" period by sleeping elsewhere at night. Clearly the newlywed period is OVER, at least for her (and maybe him.)
"...our home..."
IS it "our" home? Is it in his and your names? If not, it isn't "our" home. If it is in his name, bad enough. Is her name on the deed? Either way, this will be held over your head at some point!
"It’s been over a year now..."
No good homes, not looking, doesn't sound like there are any plans to move. As others noted, there are senior living places, apartments, etc that could be taken until the right house is found, but none of those options seem to occur to anyone else in "your" home.
"I hate living here, MIL runs the house, and my husband gets mad if I even mention trying to tell her anything. I feel like I’ve got to hide away in another room all day, and she’ll still come find me in there. Her friend also comes over all day, every day, and they have loud conversations and watch loud tv."
Again, whose home is this? Be realistic.
"I’ve tried telling my husband how unhappy and uncomfortable I am with the living arrangement, but he’ll just say he’s sorry I’m unhappy and won’t try to make any changes. He says she’s in poor health and we have to be nice. Though if I mention how if her health is so bad, maybe she should look into senior living, he says she’s a strong, capable woman."
Flip-flopping. Either she's capable or she isn't.
Sounds like they have all the answers...
"She’s only in her 60s, and her own mother is still living (in a nursing home) in her 80s. I didn’t agree to live with another woman in the home, ...
In a way, you did - she was there.
"...and I certainly can’t go on like this for another 20 or 30 years. I don’t want to leave my husband, but what can I do to let him and her know that this is an unacceptable way to live, besides packing my bags and leaving? The way things have gone so far, if I tell my husband it’s me or his mother, I’m not sure he’s going to pick me."
The only way to find out who he will pick is to follow through. You could try the week or two away others suggested, but somehow I don't think he will be crawling to you, begging you to come back. Even if he did, what will change? I'm in my later 60s and live ALONE. If I need something done that I can't manage, I hire someone. Although this comment came later, it fits better here:
"His parents separated when he was young, so she raised him as a single mom. Nothing else traumatic."
We also divorced when my kids were young (son was ~3yo.) It was NEVER a nice divorce (tried my best to keep even keel, he was always complaining about the pittance we were getting and trying to drive a wedge between the kids and I.) While I can understand some devotion to his mother, for having taken on a tough job alone, this "arrangement" doesn't sound right. As for how long she might live, her own mother is still living at 80+. My mother is still living (in MC BTW) at 97! That's a long long wait to have some marital privacy and a dicey situation for raising children in (will she bow to YOUR ideas on child-rearing, or interfere every step of the way?) As she ages, will YOU be the one providing all the hands-on care? I'd lay 5 bucks on that...
To be continued...
"She does contribute, she pays some utilities and does a little housework, though she also keeps the house in a huge mess. She’s in poor health, but doesn’t require any more care than the average older woman, like she may need help moving heavy items."
Nice that she coughs up a little and lifts a hand a bit now and then, but leaving the house a mess? Was that the case before you married? If not, then clearly YOU are the designated house maid now. Poor health? Can you clarify this? Previously husband says she's "in poor health" and you have to be "nice", but when you suggest senior living, he then says she's strong and capable. Determine which it is! 60s is not exactly old these days. My dentist only just retired, partly due to the virus impacting business, but he is 80 YO!!! BTW, I've already told BOTH my kids that no matter what, I don't want them to have to care for me.
"It’s crossed my mind that we should probably try therapy, or at least talking to the pastor at our church. I don’t know if my husband would go for that; he hates for anyone to know any of his business."
If he's not willing to work with you, well....
FWIW I was the one who didn't like the idea, but when the ex went to one (w/out telling me) and set up an appt, I did go, suspecting he was setting me up. I was right.. Didn't work out for him though. After 1 hr w/him, 1/2 hr w/me and then a 1 hr joint session, he point-blank told him that when he came in, he painted me as the problem, but at this point he felt the ex was the problem, guilty of verbal abuse AND neglect! Life changing moment for me...
"He moved into a good sized house a few years back, and his mother’s house was getting to be in rough shape, so she and her mother both moved in."
What is rough shape? Not cared for properly or needing major maintenance? If she just wasn't caring for it properly (cleaning, interior painting on occasion, etc), NORMAL maintenance that can be hired out, then she won't do any more in this house either!
"Her mother was placed in a nursing home before I started coming over. He doesn’t cook, and doesn’t clean much, so I’m sure it seemed like a fine deal for him."
Absolutely! First his mother moves in and can provide some food prep and cleaning so he doesn't have to (can we say LAZY! ANYONE can learn to make simple meals and clean.) If she wasn't doing much already, then you become a welcome second/replacement cook/maid.
"So she’s been in this house as long as he has, about 7 years or so now."
Seven years is a long time. She's probably grown roots by now. It's been about 6 years since I bought this place I'm in, and I have NO desire to up roots and move again! I've already told my kids I will die in this place before I go through yet another sale (my previous house was bad enough, then I had to clear, clean and get repairs done to mom's condo so we could sell that!) She has a good deal - son who has a roof over her head and supports her. Why should she consider moving? Not my cup o' tea, but some people prefer others take over that stuff.
"We dated for about 4 years before we married, a lot longer than I’d expected to wait."
So, what was the delay? Obviously not your cold feet. Waiting to see if mom approves? Waiting to see if you would be pliable enough to take on the role of housewife, cook, maid and mom care-giver? There must have been a reason why he didn't "pop the question" sooner - certainly not in a few months (red flags there too!), but 4 years? Somewhat reluctantly??
"We aren’t young and were wanting kids."
Under the current circumstances, I wouldn't recommend bringing any children into this web. If he refuses to move his mother, she refuses to move and you end up divorcing, it will be bad for you, BUT worse for the kids!
To be continued again...
He needs to support you and be your team member.
It will not improve and there won’t be any solution unless he realises this.
If he doesn’t, then be loving to yourself and leave.
Don't spend energy competing for him or trying to convince him. Tell him your a team. You love him.
If he chooses otherwise. Leave. Leave. Leave.
I have a daughter in law and I would NEVER interfere with their privacy or assume I could move into their home. I honor my DIL and recognize that my dear son’s allegiance is to his wife first, not to me.
Good luck!
And no, despite the empathy expressed by some respondents, MIL has no part in this. This is about your marriage. Her needs are an issue that exists outside of that marriage.
But first, make sure you have an escape planned. If he still says no, you are out the next day with no further conversation.
I will say in your husbands defense, it sucks to be in a situation of choosing between a spose and parent.almost a year ago I had to tell my mother she couldnt live with me anymore, and it was very difficult. And now she has dementia and its really hard, cuz she hates the assisted living facility shes at and begs me to bring her back to my home, so its not the easiest thing to do. BUT, my mom is 82, not 60, and she has physical and mental issues. Thats the only defense i have for your hubby. And it does seem like you got duped somehow. leaving now is a better idea than waiting, since youve not been married very long, if thats how you really feel as being your only option.just make sure its what you really feel. Im really sorry your going thru these things.If you believe in God, ask him to help you see things with clarity, He can see you through all of this, but you have to really trust Him.Ill be praying for you,
Blessings abundant to you, may you have strength and wisdom, and peace, with any decisions you make.
And remember, you have friends here, thats what this site is about, Not being alone!
just wanted to let you know that I completely sympathize. I hope you find some help.
If no one notices, that's a sign. If they try to prevent you, that's a sign.
You haven't mentioned children or if there maybe a religious or ethnic issue so I am going to work on the theory that you are putting up with this out of hope for what you dreamed of when you married him, but Sweetie, you have been had.
I don’t think you realized you married your mother in law. If your husband can not break from his mother now for you, I have my doubts he ever will. This is not a marriage of you and your husband, it is of the 3 of you. Sounds like she is pulling all the strings and probably always has. Let’s face it, she doesn’t want to let go of her son.
I suggest you schedule a marriage counselor appointment for all of you to go to. Be firm on where you stand.
talk to a lawyer too.
Good luck and God Bless
I really do think that you need to move into your own apartment right now - and refuse to come back until your MIL moves out. If your husband balks, too bad. He is going to need to make a choice.
Let your husband know that you plan to get your own apartment or move back to your parents, whichever you have to do until his mom has her own place, then MOVE OUT.
I imagine, only after you're gone will it hit him that you mean business.
Speak to his mom and let her know of your plans to move and tell her if she loves her sin and wants to make him happy then she will move out so ya'll can start a home together and tell her you or both will come over for Sunday Dinners.
This has been going on way too long.
Your MIL will not be budging unless you make her because your husband is not going to do anything!
MOVE OUT
Your husband will come around.
Dont move out angry.
Let them both know you love them but fir the marriage to work, ya'll need to live alone.
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divorce the guy. He obviously prefers his mother to you.
See an attorney and make sure that you are given a fair settlement. I know it has been "only" a year but I am sure you invested more time and probably money in the relations ship before you got married.
Next I would say see a therapist, if your husband agrees to go all the better.
Then before you go through with the divorce (or as Tammy W called it a D.I.V.O.R.C.E. ) pack your bags and go on a 2 week "vacation", stay with a friend or family member. Let calls from him go to voicemail. While you are away make a list of pros /cons of leaving or staying. (I think your list of staying is going to be short) When you get back sit down and discuss this, show him your list and tell him you are considering filing for a divorce.
He is not going to change if his mom continues to rule the roost. And I have the feeling if you are actually gone for a while she will make your home into HER home.
I am not one to advocate for a divorce but I also would not put up with this so I would be out the door.
From what I've read so far, it sounds like she has already made this HER home. While maybe going away for a week, two, or more might shake things up, I wouldn't hold my breath. The only positive to going away, alone, is to do some soul searching and making that list of pros/cons. I agree at this point, knowing what we do know, that the pro list is likely going to be very short and the con list very long!
I can’t help but think that this was the plan all along. Her having a house built then not liking it once it was done? Then giving it to the builders? That sounds sketchy to me. She might have always planned on living with her son, with you there just to take care of them both, and momma’s boy thought that was a great idea. I’m sorry I can’t tell you anything different, but it’s probably best to just get out and leave your husband and his mom to it.
I was married to a momma’s boy myself, and it is not a real marriage. You’re always the outsider, the real relationship is between mom and son. My divorce day was one of the happiest of my life.
Bad went to worse. I became her personal cook/maid/attendant when I wasn't at my real fulltime career. Told hubs HE needed to grow a pair & tell his "mommy" it was time to be civil, do her own laundry- or go. Either that or divorce. One night she had a bit too much to drink & started in on me, then "released her bladder" on my new antique chair. Gross and sad! Told hubs that was it! and my teen daughter & I started packing. He had to finally have that loooong chat with MIL...
Long story short, relatives came the next day to move her out, all the while they were cursing at me. A month later those relatives called to apologize; MIL was drunk nightly & peeing on their furniture now! Your husband needs to take the lead and be the "bad cop" not you.
My heart and prayers go out to you.
Also, not sure what country your in and if that even makes a difference but real estate is hot at the moment and selling/buying fast.
It's a buyers market we are in. Which is not good for the sellers, but buyer's playground. If she is actually looking at buying during covid, now is the time to get a bargain!
This whole set up sounds completely off to me. Im gonna guess your husband is the only child or there are other children but he is the last and only one to stick around. Either she is a control freak who guilt trips her son or they have both lied. This is not a generational issue. I've had two parents/grandparents pull manipluation and make boundaries all become about their their "victimisation" and pity, and others the same age and older who believed in marital/unit family independence and respected boundaries. I don't know how you have put up with it for a year. Either she has lied and manipulated, or he has known the truth and they have both lied. I'd get in touch with a seperation lawyer just to protect your financial interests and then leave. It's your marital home, not her house. She should be acting with the manners of a guest and seeking her own independence and privacy. Your husband has shown his contradiction with his last comments how he makes her unwell and bad health, yet she is strong and capable. Sounds like she doesn't want to let go of the apron strings. I certainly would not have children while she is living with you because she will tear you to sheds mentally and emotionally just to take control of the baby.
I hope I wasn't too unclear.