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How can I handle my mother's constant nagging for my attention because she is 'lonely'? I myself am a mother, grandmother, work at home with medical transcription and volunteer at my grandson's school. My life is as I wish it. I had not planned on having to 'be there' for an emotionally needy elderly mother whose constant complaints of 'being lonely and depressed' are starting to make me depressed. My mother was not there for my siblings and myself growing up after I turned age 9, because she had a 'break' with sanity. She packed up the kids (five of us) and dropped us off at the juvenile shelter because she said "we were driving her crazy". This happened after she divorced our father. I and my siblings spent years in foster care and often, I felt we were scattered to the winds. My mother did not really come back into my life until I was married with a child. Then, I suppose, I would have no real need of her. Over the years, I lost three of my siblings to Huntington's Chorea and my surviving older sister, will have nothing to do with our mother for what she did to us as a family. I have tried to forgive and forget and have some sort of relationship with my mother, but it has always felt one-sided, on my part. My mother is a very cold, selfish person whose outlook on life seems to be, "what about me?". She has never tried to cultivate a relationship with my daughter, now grown, and my grandson. She seems oblivious to the fact that relationships take work. You have to earn someone's love and care. She seems to think because I am the surviving child who WILL talk to her, that I am her responsibility. She even moved closer to my home (less than one mile away) into a retirement apartment facility, in an effort to be close to me, and for, as she puts it, "in case she needs me". When I do set aside a day to spend with her, she sits there like a bump on a log and wants to be catered to, as if she is a desired guest. Her selfishness and cold nature have made all others in the family ignore her, and it has gotten worse over the years, where no one wants to be with her, as there are no redeeming qualities in her, as a human being. My sister and daughter are amazed that I would want anything to do with her. Sadly, I think I have tried to make this mother-daughter relationship work between my mother and my self, but again, it all feels so one-sided. I have begun to avoid her more and more in an attempt to keep my life as normal as it is. I am so tired of entreating HER to go out and make friends. One of our last conversations on the subject were my asking how it was going regarding attempting to make friends in her apartment complex. She snapped at me, and I mean snapped, when she said,...." I HAVE tried!!!!! I don't like any of them, and none of them like me!!!!!" This apartment complex has over 300 units. All the residents are in her age range. I.e., late 70s to early 90s. I am left with the feeling that she really doesn't want a friend, she wants me, and my time. My resentment over the past with what she did to our family, and the present, with how or why she feels I should be obligated to 'be there' for her, when she was not there for any of us, is getting worse. How can I keep my positive happy life from being destroyed by her constant nagging for my time and attention, when again, as I said, is not enriching at all, as she sits there like a bump on a log and barely ever says more than a paragraph worth of anything. Most of the words out of her mouth are in part, her mantra, which seems to be "I'm lonely, I'm depressed, DO for me!!!!!!"

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This is a very difficult situation for you, but one thing to remember: Your Mother is responsible for her own happiness.
I commend you for having a relationship with her after she abandoned you and your siblings when you were children. It does sound like she has issues and possibly even a personality disorder. You may want to do some research about Narcissistic personality disorder (NPD). Unfortunately, she will only get worse as she ages and you need to ask yourself if you are prepared to be her caregiver. Good luck.
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Wow, I am convinced my Mother has a personality disorder. Almost everythig you have said about your Mom is exactly like mine. She didn't divorce my Dad or abandon us but the pity party is the same. Mom has no friends and never has, is very selfish, it is always 100% about her. Never even tries to meet me half way. I think if you read about personality disorders you will see your Mom. I have. It is better when you distance yourself from her. Like your Mom, my Mom has never "been there" for me. She wanted nothing to do with my wedding, left me with twin babies (she couldn't miss her sleep) and stopped visiting 12 years ago (at 68). She also never protected me from a verbally abusive father. The similarities are interesting. I am sorry for your pain, I know how it feels.
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I believe that this is a common problem with aging single parents as I too have struggled with a complicated relationship with my Mom. From your post their personalities are very similar. Ultimately your Mother is responsible/and needs to be accountable for her own happiness. From your post it appears that this is a life long personality problem rather than something tramatic that caused her bad behaviour. I think it is important to set boundaries as to avoid taking on her problems. Also if your siblings do not want to be involved I would suggest setting up a support system through a different avenue as to avoid caregiver BURNOUT...this can happen when you are the only person helping. I found the book 'Coping with your Difficult Aging Parent' helpful. Good luck and stay healthy.
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Hi,
I'm late but just found this site. Your mother sounds very similar to my grandmother, emotion wise anyway. I am her only grandchild, and I have a son of my own as well as a house, a dog, and a full time job. My grandmother lives alone but relies on me for emotional support on a daily basis. She is always lonely, depressed, nobody calls her, nobody goes to see her, she needs things done and no one does them for her, etc......it's all about her. Sometimes, actually most of the time, I just want a break from it because it wears me down (and makes me feel guilty), and I struggle with depression on my own a bit (not that she would care about that). Throughout my childhood, I unfortunately did not have much of a relationship with her, because of her nagging and always making me feel guilty. Plus she had very little to zero concern over my emotions or how I was feeling. All that mattered was that I did what she told me I should do. In fact, I got a new job recently (my last job almost gave me a nervous breakdown) and she had the hardest time with it because she can't call me at work now with every little thing. For months she kept asking if I would go back if they asked me. Never mind how miserable I was at the old job, as long as it works out for her needs. I feel for you because I know exactly what you are going through. I've tried to her her to go to the senior center but she doesn't like those people. Sigh.
I do feel a responsibility to her though because she did babysit my son when he was younger (he's a teenager now), so I feel I owe it to her to do what I can, but I want my life back and I want to stop being her emotional crutch. She tells me often enough she wants to die, she is lonely, miserable, etc...and it's so hard to provide emotional support on a continual basis when she gave me none growing up.
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Dear Phoebe:
Do not feel guilty as you are not responsible for your Grandmother's happiness, she is. When she goes on one of her tirades of "I'm lonely...I want to die", just say nothing or "it is too bad you feel that way". You cannot fix her life, nor are you responsible for what she has become. I suggest you research NPD - Narcissistic Personality Disorder. There are many books and website that cover this issue. An important thing is to preserve your life that that of your son by learning to set boundaries. Good luck and bless you.
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Wow! It really is important to get support from others and find out what agencies you can access. Otherwise you could "loose yourself" in the depths. You have my sympathy.

I am going through a similar situation -but the level of guilt is compounded by my mother's health issues (Osteoporosis, peripheral neuropathy, severe anxiety & depression). My Dad is having radiation therapy for cancer and she's been hospitalized twice for UTI's. They are both in their mid-80's. My sister and I are both back in therapy after 9 months of helping them navigate through lots of healthcare and paperwork. They are both in denial about the fact that they are "elderly" and need home health care (at the very least) or moving to assisted living. I am going to research the Narcissistic Personality Disorder.

Meanwhile, I hope you can set up some healthy boundaries. There's a great book, "Boundaries" Henry M. Cloud. Hope it helps.

Take care,
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Someone in the forum sent me this link awhile back and I found it very helpful. Remember that there are varying degrees of narcissism, but in the end it is still difficult to deal with.
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This site is such a blessing and hats off to the person who designed it and made it happen. I have been going through much of the above with my mother who is very emotionally needy. My husband and I became Christians 38 years ago, and our lives have drastically changed from self-centeredness to centered on God and His plan for our lives. Before I begin my day I read my Bible and pray and ask the Lord to direct and guide me and give me the grace for the situations that arise. When my mother voices her depression issues, is angry at me, expresses her regrets, complains, etc. I try to disengage and redirect the conversation or sometimes sit quietly and pray for her and myself--for more grace and love. I have learned that I cannot change her heart--only God can do that. I cannot give her friends, be her Activity Director in life, cannot give her peace, joy, all she is lacking...but I can be her daughter, friend, helper, encourager, etc. during her last days and try to help make them as pleasant as possible. Then--when all is finished, I will know that I have lived to please the Lord, and will have no regrets as far as caring for my mother. I usually try to make our visits pleasant--take her to the beauty shop, join with her in some of the activities at the A.L., bring her already-addressed envelopes and stationary so she can send put stickers on the letters and send them to loved ones a few times a month, laugh with her, listen to her, etc. I am learning more and more to love her and bless her with my words and actions in a way that pleases God--without expecting much in return. My greatest desire is to have God's commendation -- "well done, good and faithful servant" than my mother's approval or dissapproval. I found it also important to be sure I am balancing my time in having my morning devotions, reading the Bible and praying, meeting my husband's needs, being a blessing to our kids, and our new grandchild, friends, bookclubs, walking our dogs, gardening, etc. I prayed for you as I read your article. This can be a lonely road we walk on, but I have found that as I turn to God for His wisdom, discernment in His word, and He gives sufficient grace to the believer as to how they should live out their life--then there is peace, joy, and the patience to endure whatever befalls. May God bless you and give you daily grace:)
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I don't understand why you continue to try. She created her own loneliness, let her dwell in it herself. Enjoy the life you built with your daughter and grandson and completely stay away from your mother. Hopefully your mother will see her loneliness for what it is and try and change for the better.
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Sounds as if you've done all you could do. Maybe just try to tune her out and limit contact as much as possible. Both my parents are stubborn and won't try to make friends where they are either. Not much I can do about it, though. I don't really want to ruin my life over their problems at this point. I just visit when I can. Just try to relax and tune them out. Good luck and God bless you.
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You are a better person than me. For people like this, there will be no pleasing. You will run yourself ragged, and for what? It is not appreciated. Do what you can, and don't allow yourself an ounce of guilt.
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Mmilady, I sure do recognize the " poor me " mother issues. Dealing with them right now. May I ask what her problem was? Was she hospitalized?
I am extremely sorry for the break up up your family and the loss of your siblings to such a unforgiving disease.
If she was truly mentally ill, maybe she did the right thing so you would be safer from her growing up. If she just could not afford to raise you I am very sorry. That is no way for a child to grow up.

Do you feel an obligation TO help her? Is she recovered at all? The catering too is a narcissistic behavior. Maybe you can put limits on the time you are there. That is what I have to do with mine. I take my mum to radiation m-f. She hard 3 hours from me from 1-4. I cannot stay longer. I have 4 kids and now thanks to mom, no job. She wants more. My mother needs Hospice care and refuses.

If you feel the moral obligation, you need to put limits. Until she understand that I would not involve her in your happy life.You have to protect you, your family and your sanity. Tell her you can only do what can do.
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Your situation sounds like mine, I have a needy 78 year old mom. That neediness worsened when my father passed away last Dec. 2011 after being bedridden for 3 years and also going through major surgeries that all children struggled to pay.

My mom hired a cousin to be our nanny because she worked in an office all her life, and I admired her for that. I can understand that some women really would rather work in an office, than be a homemaker with small children, because it is a difficult, financially unrewarding job. I am a stay at home mom, and I know how unglamorous the job is, compared to going to the office and having your worked done in 8 hours.
Anyway, I could not remember moments in my childhood where mother spent time with me, or helped me with school work, or talked to me when I felt lonely and confused as a young teen. Having experienced motherhood myself, and being a wife, I can see so some of my parents' shortcomings ... It makes me mad to think that my mother wasted those years - she could have developed a good relationship with my children, or my siblings'children. But she was too difficult to get a long with - strongwilled, arrogant, and accusing. In her frailty and old age, esp. now that my father is gone, she has become VERY needy. I tell her up front that she is very needy and I do not have the mental and emotional capacities to fill her void. Only God can. And if she is somehow stranded in another country, I remind her that their decision not to migrate in early years, caused that and she should just accept that is the path she chose.
My mom would cry like a little child, and somehow, because the manipulation was so severe when I was growing up, I got desensitized to a point, that it does not bother me as much as it did before. Also, knowing that I myself "put in the time" as a mother, makes me confident and not feel bad of telling my mother what her real situation is -- and that we will all face death someday, might as well make the most of every minute that we are alive. I tell her to make every day count. Serve others, give to others instead of expecting and REQUIRING people to cater to you.
I do send her money twice a month. She said that is not enough, and i tell her - that is all I have because I cannot continue to fight with my husband regarding our financial situation - it is not God's way. We believe in the Bible, and suppose to be born-again Christians (not burn again). I tell my mom, that God's way is peaceful, not chaotic. So, when she starts to wail, and also act as if she could not breathe on the phone -- NPD to the max --- I start to pray and ask the Lord to take care of the rest. And when my mother's emotional repertoire gets to my nerve, I say goodbye and hang up the phone.
One thing I always tell myself, is to better for my children when it is MY TURN to get old, and frail and needy. This line of thinking seems to make me feel good about the decisions I make now for myself, and for my mom.
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I'm going though a similar situation only my mom is constantly talking, she talks about trivial and unimportant things. There are times when she is quiet and those times are usually when she is crying (because she says. "she has a right a cry" --anytime anywhere, including at MY table). I'm split between the fact that she has to have a personality disorder (she has been the same way for ever) or she is acting like a 4 year old trying to be the center of attention--always. It's rough living with some one who take minor irritates and blows them up in major problems just to have something to cry about or nag about - constantly. Like your mom, most of the people in her life (including her kids) finally said to her. "to heck with you. I don't need this turmoil you constantly create in my life." My mom is temporarily living with me and there has been much drama here since she arrive (over stupid stuff). I decided the drama was not worth having a heart attack over, and I am learning ways to not let her get under my skin. One thing that has helped is to look at her as a 4 year old (because that is exactly how she acts). When my kids were little and had a tantrum I didn't let that effect my blood pressure, I just didn't pay much attention to them while they were having one. And that's the way I'm now treating my mom -- she wants to have a tantrum -- she can go ahead. When my kids got mad and refused to do stuff (like eat) -- oh well. They will eat sooner or later. etc... That's how I am handling it with my mom, for my own sanity, and it seems to be working. She sat outside in the 80 degree heat with a sweater on sulking for hours today, looking for attention or someone to baby her or for someone to start a fight with. She had to be really hot -- but so what, that is what SHE chose to do. By the way my mom has all her mental faculties and is in great health and is very aware of what she is doing. If she was not mentally able to take a sweater off in the heat I would certainly help her with that.
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I have all of the above problems AND she has lived with my husband and I for 27 years of marriage! I am 46, and have been her all and all my whole life. She is very crippled with arthritis,( I am too) and we have fun times, but she is in every minutia of my life. I feel as if i am in a cage and feeling hopeless. We are a Christian family, and I know I am doing what the Lord wants as far as taking care of her, but am I not allowed to have my own life,too?? Help!
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I think your definition of taking care of an elderly parent is far too narrow and that you are expecting far too much of just yourself in providing care for your mother. I'd like to ask a few quesitons.

How old is your mother?

Other than arthritis, what other medical problems does your mother have.

Has your mother ever worked outside of the home or have you and your husband been supporting her financially for the last 27 years of marriage?

I gather that since you are 46 and you have been married 27 years that you must have gotten married when you were 19. Why did she come to live with you in the early years of your marriage when you and your husband were so young? What happened to her husband, your dad?

Why have you been her all for all of her life? I'm sure that has bred a lot of dependency?

How have you been able to have any life with your mom right there from the very start of your marriage? Frankly, as a husband, that would have really gotten on my nerves. There is such a thing as leaving and cleaving.

Yes, you deserve to have your own life as a Christian and as a fellow human being. You need some emotional boundaries with your mom and time away from her. Can she not be left alone at all?
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BOUNDARIES, Boundaries, boundaries!
Narcissists use other people as tools and only when some kind of emotional transaction will come out in their favor. E.g., more of your attention, more of your time. This is how you can tell a narcissist has "let you in" - when they stop behaving and start taking advantage in a most selfish and demanding way.

Set your priorities for your own life and live them.
My own NPD mother comes after my family. Part of prioritizing my family is also prioritizing my job obligations. No work, no pay, no food.

No, she doesn't like it, to which I say "Tough cookies lady."

The priorities for my mom in her old age and dementia are her safety and well being. Not happiness. Not contentment. Not being entertained. She is in a nice-enough place that keeps her safe from herself and the world, feeds her, cleans her, dresses her, sees to her every medical need, and tries to keep her in activities that are good for her mind. I have no guilt about this situation.

When I go visit, which is not as often as I wish, because she can't stand me. I get called all kinds of names, blamed for everything wrong in her life, and it gets her very agitated. But when I am there, I can see that she is well cared for. According to her though, it's a h*ll hole and everybody is trying to kill her. She has some real doozy stories.

Narcissism and dementia together in one person, plus other medical and psychiatric problems make for a really devastating and destructive cocktail. It affects everyone that person ever meets in one way or another.

My goal was to get out alive and have a peaceful home with my own family and break this curse on the family.
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cmagnum, thanks so much for the reply. My parents were divorced when I was 2. She held a job until the sever arthritis made it so she had to retire in her 50's. We took her in not too long after that. We are very close, but being a "People" person, as opposed to a introvert like my husband and I, has made a very harried and difficult situation. My husband is a wonderful man, and actually treats her better than he treats me at times. : ) My mother is well liked and personable, but of course people haven't been privy to the years of resentment and build up on my part. They just see that we are close and have a great laugh, but don't realize how suffocating she can be. She is a very needy person, and is so used to me being right beside her, that it is just normal to her and everyone else. People that I have known my whole life don't even know who I really am. And of course, we are of an age now when your parents do start living with you. This is why I feel hopeless about the whole situation. Please keep me in your prayers!! : )
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Well, since she worked until she was in her 50's, does she have any money saved up or invested that could help pay for some caregivers to come to the house and give you a break?

I am surprised to hear that your husband treats your mom better than he treats her. That is odd. What's going on there?

Needy people will drain the life out of you! Has she always been a needy, dependent person or has she just become that way since retiring? It is not healthy for her or for you to continue this emotional dance with your mom of letting her suffocate you with her neediness. Part of the feelings of hopelessness comes from believing that this emotional dance with your mom cannot be stopped. Well, she can't be stopped from trying to continue this dance, but you can stop dancing by establishing some boundaries.

Sounds like you need to do some research online about boundaries and establishing some boundaries with your mom. If I were you I would definitely recent my husband treating my mom better than he does me.

So, let me see if I can recreate some of your history from what you shared. Your mom and dad divorced when you were 2. 17 years later when you became 19, you married your husband. At that same time, your mother was in her 50's, had to retire and thus moved in with you and your husband. She's been with ya'll for 27 years since you were 19 and you are now 46. That tells me doing the math that she was likely in her 30's when you were born, and thus is likely to be in her late 70's now. Well, she could still be living with you for the next 15-20 years depending on how long she lives. Do you want her to continue living in your house or do you want to look into some other possible living arrangements for her? Not all people her age end up living with their adult children. Not all parents live with their adult children from the time they get married at 19 through when their adult child becomes 46 and they are in their 70's.

It is sad that people who have known you your whole life don't even know who you really are. They don't really know you then? Who does know who you really are after being so suffocated by your mother all of these years? Sounds to me that a therapist might help you very much to work on your self-esteem and work on boundaries with your mother.

I think possibly, you may have missed something early in those early days of your marriage with having had such an absorbing, dependent, needy mom right there in the house. I call that early something in the early days, months and years of a marriage, the creating of the marriage identity time in which you define yourselves as a couple unique from everyone and anyone else. That is extremely hard to work on when you don't have the total privacy of a couple alone in their own home. Likewise, it is hard for a young person from their teenage years on up to develop a sense of identity separate from their parents without some privacy that is respected by their parents.

Yes, you need and have my prayers, but you need to let go of your hopelessness by setting up boundaries in order to stop dancing with your mom in this emotional dance of her needy, absorbing, neediness. I with you well in your journey.
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I meant to type, "I wish you well in your journey." I typed too fast and failed to review my post before pressing post comment.
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And when you do talk to a therapist, you will need to work on ENMESHMENT.
When multiple people have been so immersed in each others' problems for this many decades, it is VERY difficult to untangle yourselves without a lot of work.

Nevertheless, time marches on and mom's need level will only increase. Change is coming whether anybody likes it or not.
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Ditto to what Sandwich said. Your priorities are safety and well being, not happiness. Limit your time with her. Set some boundaries and stick to them.
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I think that sounds a bit harsh given the details of the situation. People need support not criticism and judgement.
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Lightdark, I don't think the issue is that the poster wants to abandon her mother, she'd simply like some privacy and time alone with her husband. Not everyone has the room to house a parent adequately. The assumption on this board is that people post problems that they are grappling with and we try to come up with workable solutions and support. We don't say "you don't have a problem", or "the other guy has it worse" or "I'm better than you are because....". And by the way, I'm a Jew as well. And my mom is in a nursing home because that is the level of care she needs.
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Okay, so this person is changing names and I believe is a troll. Please ignore.
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My MIL is just like this. She sits around all-day, everyday feeling sorry for herself but yet is trying to latch on to my family and gets upset because we refuse to allow it. It's not fair and I don't believe in taking on another persons emotional issues especially when they aren't even trying to help themselves. I have cut ties with her and chose not to entertain any of her nonsense. My husband is starting to see that she is a burden and hopefully he will put her in a home with people her age and depressing mindset.
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my mother sometimes feels like she is lonely and that i need to talk to her for a while and i really want to be alone she keeps hounding me until i scream at her and my stepdad who has a camera in the living room he hears me and tells me and i am tired of being bullied and that she is driving me nuts
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Jackie, why are you living at home? Are you doing caregiving? What are your mother's infirmities that require a caregiver? How often is "sometimes" when she wants to talk and you don't?

A little more information would help us respond appropriately.
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i just moved out of my mom's house seven month ago and she still call me up to come over and help her pick up her backyard and other stuff but I think I shouldn't have to go every time she needs my help. what should I do?
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I can relate to what you are experiencing. I am sorry you are going through this. As my parents get older, they are wanting to rely more and more on me. I am the oldest of 5, so you can imagine how resentful I was beginning to feel. My parents were neglectful and abusive towards me and my siblings growing up, so we've never had a good relationship. As my parents have gotten older though, they've had no shame in asking us to do things. I have had to set a specific day/time aside to visit them so I can prepare myself, I don't take phone calls from them during work hours (I usually call them while I'm driving home/wherever so there's a limit as to how much I spend on the phone with them), and I don't respond to nagging or repetitive conversations. I don't take time off from work to help them with anything (my sister was taking time off at some point and it almost cost her her job/sanity). I am not sure how well your mother is, but I have seen many elderly people (including my parents) that are fully capable of living independently, however, expect others to do everything for them. I would recommend setting strict boundaries, otherwise you will find yourself completely immersed in your mother's unhappy life. If she's in a home, she will be taken care of. Do not allow yourself to feel guilty or shame for setting healthy boundaries. As a therapist, I have seen way too many women lose their independence, time with children and their partner/husband, and become depressed due to taking care of their parents (many of which are fully capable of doing things themselves or can reach out to agencies for help). My family is Mexican and taking care of the elderly often falls on the oldest daughters. It will take a lot of effort on your part to set boundaries. Just remember that you are not alone and have every right to say "no."
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