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I suggest you call your local Labor board to find out what your rights would be. The few things that have come out on this forum concerning live ins are:
1. They are not considered self-employed. The person hiring them must deduct payroll taxes. With SS they also match what has been deducted. If not, this will effect the amount of money u receive at retirement.
2. That they must receive at least minimum wage and cannot be charged rent for the room they are using.
3. That a contract needs to be in place. A live in does not work 24/7. They are allowed time off. At which time the employer needs to bring in other help. This contract should also say what happens when the client passes away. How long does the aide have to move out. Will there be severance pay?
There are horror stories on this site concerning live in. People expected to work 24/7. Some having rent taken out of their wages. Others not getting a wage because its felt the aide is getting room and board. One case I remember the aide took over to the point she bossed around the kids. Another instance, the aide moved her family in. She had been given an apt in the basement. She ended up placing the client in the basement and taking over the house. The POA lived out of state.
For me, having a live in is more work and potential problems. I would rather take that money and find a nice AL for my LO.
The best way to answer this is to call a few agencies in your area and ask what they charge. A % will be going to the agency so the worker will not get all of it so take that into consideration. Each part of the country, each part of every state has a different "standard" so the cost will be different everywhere. I live a bit more than an hour from Chicago, the cost for me to hire will be far different than if I lived 2 hours north in Wisconsin or a few hours south. A caregiver that is a Live In also needs time off. So if the person they are caring for needs supervision 24/7 you will also need to hire someone else. Unless you hire through an agency you will also need to complete appropriate forms for taxes. I would also make sure your insurance includes a live in caregiver and you have the right insurance policy. Just a few things to think about. Also compare hiring more than 1 person so you do not have a "live in" it is very possible that 1 or 2 people doing late night could be paid far less than caregivers that are doing "active caregiving" such as bathing, dressing, meal prep, cleaning. Ones doing overnight shift would be "sitters" not actual caregivers. Some sites indicate that overnight sitters or caregivers can sleep if the client can easily awaken them, other sites say they should not sleep during the shift. I would think it depends on the client so every case would be different.
And a live in cannot be a 1099 contractor. They are an employee of the person needing care, so all witholding needs to be done by the employer. Room and board are not considered as even partial payment for services.
We have seen well meaning caregivers taken advantage of many times on this site. Don't fall into that trap. You are wise to ask questions here before you get into an arrangement.
In my area a live in would be in the area of 12k a month. That amount includes overtime pay for over 40 hours.
By proceeding, I agree that I understand the following disclosures:
I. How We Work in Washington.
Based on your preferences, we provide you with information about one or more of our contracted senior living providers ("Participating Communities") and provide your Senior Living Care Information to Participating Communities. The Participating Communities may contact you directly regarding their services.
APFM does not endorse or recommend any provider. It is your sole responsibility to select the appropriate care for yourself or your loved one. We work with both you and the Participating Communities in your search. We do not permit our Advisors to have an ownership interest in Participating Communities.
II. How We Are Paid.
We do not charge you any fee – we are paid by the Participating Communities. Some Participating Communities pay us a percentage of the first month's standard rate for the rent and care services you select. We invoice these fees after the senior moves in.
III. When We Tour.
APFM tours certain Participating Communities in Washington (typically more in metropolitan areas than in rural areas.) During the 12 month period prior to December 31, 2017, we toured 86.2% of Participating Communities with capacity for 20 or more residents.
IV. No Obligation or Commitment.
You have no obligation to use or to continue to use our services. Because you pay no fee to us, you will never need to ask for a refund.
V. Complaints.
Please contact our Family Feedback Line at (866) 584-7340 or ConsumerFeedback@aplaceformom.com to report any complaint. Consumers have many avenues to address a dispute with any referral service company, including the right to file a complaint with the Attorney General's office at: Consumer Protection Division, 800 5th Avenue, Ste. 2000, Seattle, 98104 or 800-551-4636.
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APFM does not (and may not) require or even ask consumers seeking senior housing or care services in Washington State to sign waivers of liability for losses of personal property or injury or to sign waivers of any rights established under law.
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I authorize A Place For Mom ("APFM") to collect certain personal and contact detail information, as well as relevant health care information about me or from me about the senior family member or relative I am assisting ("Senior Living Care Information").
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APFM may send all communications to me electronically via e-mail or by access to an APFM web site.
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This E-Sign Acknowledgement and Authorization applies to these Disclosures and all future Disclosures related to APFM's services, unless I revoke my authorization. You may revoke this authorization in writing at any time (except where we have already disclosed information before receiving your revocation.) This authorization will expire after one year.
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You consent to APFM's reaching out to you using a phone system than can auto-dial numbers (we miss rotary phones, too!), but this consent is not required to use our service.
1. They are not considered self-employed. The person hiring them must deduct payroll taxes. With SS they also match what has been deducted. If not, this will effect the amount of money u receive at retirement.
2. That they must receive at least minimum wage and cannot be charged rent for the room they are using.
3. That a contract needs to be in place. A live in does not work 24/7. They are allowed time off. At which time the employer needs to bring in other help. This contract should also say what happens when the client passes away. How long does the aide have to move out. Will there be severance pay?
There are horror stories on this site concerning live in. People expected to work 24/7. Some having rent taken out of their wages. Others not getting a wage because its felt the aide is getting room and board. One case I remember the aide took over to the point she bossed around the kids. Another instance, the aide moved her family in. She had been given an apt in the basement. She ended up placing the client in the basement and taking over the house. The POA lived out of state.
For me, having a live in is more work and potential problems. I would rather take that money and find a nice AL for my LO.
A % will be going to the agency so the worker will not get all of it so take that into consideration.
Each part of the country, each part of every state has a different "standard" so the cost will be different everywhere. I live a bit more than an hour from Chicago, the cost for me to hire will be far different than if I lived 2 hours north in Wisconsin or a few hours south.
A caregiver that is a Live In also needs time off. So if the person they are caring for needs supervision 24/7 you will also need to hire someone else.
Unless you hire through an agency you will also need to complete appropriate forms for taxes. I would also make sure your insurance includes a live in caregiver and you have the right insurance policy.
Just a few things to think about.
Also compare hiring more than 1 person so you do not have a "live in" it is very possible that 1 or 2 people doing late night could be paid far less than caregivers that are doing "active caregiving" such as bathing, dressing, meal prep, cleaning. Ones doing overnight shift would be "sitters" not actual caregivers.
Some sites indicate that overnight sitters or caregivers can sleep if the client can easily awaken them, other sites say they should not sleep during the shift. I would think it depends on the client so every case would be different.
We have seen well meaning caregivers taken advantage of many times on this site. Don't fall into that trap. You are wise to ask questions here before you get into an arrangement.
In my area a live in would be in the area of 12k a month. That amount includes overtime pay for over 40 hours.