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I have been getting mounting pressure from my mom and siblings to take my mother in my home and care for her. She lives alone now and does ok. I care for her as much as possible as I live an hour away and work full time. But I am seeing signs of mild dementia on and off. Her personality changes and incontinence issues are the biggest things. She has been pressuring me for some time but now my brother and sister are doing and saying little things that make me think they want me to take her. Mom is 93 and I am in my sixties. My brother is in his mid seventies and my sister has a disabled son. So they cannot do it. How can I say no and have them understand that I just don’t want to be tied down to a 93 year old person with dementia just when I can start living my life. I have sacrificed for a long time. Working to put my kids through college. It was tough for years. Now I am finally on my feet and close to retirement. I’d like to have some leisure time for myself. I could still care for mom but just don’t want her in my house 24/7. She’s a handful. But it just doesn’t go down well with them.

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I am so sorry.  NO is a complete sentence.   The family should consult an eldercare attorney regarding Medicaid availability and a geriatric manager if necessary regarding options.   I would start looking online at nearby facilities.
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I have to agree. Undertaking caretaking when you are ready, willing and able is hard enough; going into it because you're being guilted into it is a recipe for disaster. Is there any reason why mom can't go into assisted living if she needs help? I think you should tell everyone, gently but firmly, no, this is not a job you are willing to do. You deserve to have a life, too.
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What was your mother's plan for her old age?

This was HER job, not yours.

There are public funding programs for the indigent.
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If your mom has a medical and financial POA in place it would be that person’s job to handle everything. I think you should all talk about it and come to some type of agreement but if you feel that you’re not able to take her in, stick firmly to your “no” response.

If you’re against it now it won’t get any better in the future if they guilt you into taking her in.
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Well, I don't think you should have to explain the 'whys' to your siblings. It just won't work for you, PERIOD. You don't need justification, you don't need reasons or excuses.............you just can't do it. I would never in a million years care for my 93 y/o mother in my home! No two ways about it. She lives in Memory Care and it's always something over THERE. I can't even imagine what it would be like over HERE! On Monday she had a 'huge corn' on her pinkie toe that was KILLING HER. When the nurse came and saw absolutely nothing whatsoever on her toe, she suddenly let go of that story. On Wednesday, she was 'throwing up and throwing up and throwing up' and had to use a plastic 'puke bucket' all day, but meanwhile, she was REALLY having some acid reflux and regurgitating about a teaspoon of fluid. Her doctor comes into the ALF once a week which is a GODSEND. Being wheelchair bound, there's no way I could possibly get her back & forth to a doctor's office, especially for fabricated problems. And that is just ONE tiny detail out of 1,000 details to deal with on an ongoing basis at home. Let's face it.

My cousin who lives in Staten Island NY is fond of telling my mother she'd LOVE to have her come live with HER!! Um, then why hasn't she come to get her yet, after being in Assisted Living for 6 years now? You know why? Because talk is cheap, that's why. It sounds good for my cousin to make those noises but not mean a word of it. It's very very difficult to care for a demented elder inside of one's home. And, at your age (and my age), we should NOT have to be doing it! It's just too much, the incontinence issue alone.

Remember: it doesn't have to 'go down well' with your siblings that you are not taking your mother into your home. If they don't like it, too bad. See about getting her placed in Memory Care Assisted Living, or into Skilled Nursing with Medicaid. And if that doesn't work for your siblings, THEY can take her in their home, regardless of their reasons why they can't.

Best of luck!
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disgustedtoo May 2020
LOVE the cheap talk! Both my brothers, after their "introduction" to facility costs, said "Gee for that kind of money, I'll take her in." Sure they will. Never happened. Which is a good thing. OB is clearly abusive and has ZERO patience for ANYTHING, never mind a person over 90 with dementia. YB is still working, no room in his GF's condo (and has done nothing about separating from his wife about FOUR years ago - bit scatter-brained.)

I had done some research, knew a bit about what to expect and had a rough idea of costs, and already knew BEFORE dementia that living with me wasn't going to work! Note that like lealonnie1 says, even living in a facility requires our time and effort to be advocate and ensure they are cared for, just without the struggle of hands-on. Thankfully mom and dad had saved, and there was enough still to ensure she could afford a nice place. Her money, not ours, so it *SHOULD* be used for her care, not for us to inherit!
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You are not saying no to helping your mom. You are saying no to shouldering the total complete burden of her care. That is what you need to tell your siblings. Of course, your siblings don't like your honesty but it is not their lives that will change if your mom moves in your home. Yes-they want you to take her. Caring for an aging parent will quickly consume your life. Incontinence and dementia are not easy to deal with and will get worse. I agree with FloridaDD look around your community for care options, consult an attorney for Medicare availability. Do these things before it reaches a crisis situation.
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disgustedtoo May 2020
"You are not saying no to helping your mom. You are saying no to shouldering the total complete burden of her care."

I concur 100%!!! We moved our mother to MC, but despite what the brothers think, there is still a lot of time and effort put into ensuring her care, getting supplies not provided, visiting, etc. It just takes the heavier burden off and allows you to ADVOCATE for her and VISIT her, allows you to be her DAUGHTER, not her nurse maid.

Although I realize the siblings have issues and think this is okay because OP doesn't, that doesn't cut it. It is still a huge undertaking. Some might remain meek and mild-mannered, but in general that is not the case, and all the extra work, lack of sleep, etc WILL take a toll.
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How do you say no?

"I'm physically and mentally unable to care for mom in my house 24/7."
"Mom's needs exceed my ability to care."
"If one of you (dear brother and sister) want to do it, go ahead."
"I work full-time. I can only help mom with xyz, for __ hours __ days a week. Someone else has to help her with the rest of her needs"
"Mom is incontinent, which of you wants to clean her lady parts, cuz I don't."
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cherokeegrrl54 May 2020
Excellent response!!
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Like said NO should be enough. Tell them to start considering other options.
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What "little things" are your brother and sister saying?

Seems to me it's time to stop dropping hints and have a frank conversation. Your part in that conversation, by the way, is to make it crystal clear that you do not have the space, training, money or inclination to provide your mother with full-time care. A better option can and must be found for her.
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OMG..Do not do it.Please say NO and find other options for people who have dementia.It is your time to enjoy your life not to have a high stressed mental life.JUST SAY "NO"...and it is OK.
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OMG..Do not do it.Please say NO and find other options for people who have dementia.It is your time to enjoy your life not to have a high stressed mental life.JUST SAY "NO"...and it is OK.
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One of the best things I ever learned was that I don’t owe others an explanation for my decisions. As a fully formed grown up I have a right to my decisions and don’t have to justify, explain, or defend. Please give yourself this freedom. Ignore all talk of your mother living with you and when you’re directly asked, say it won’t be possible. No discussions of why, but you can offer to help her find a suitable place to go or help in her own home. It’s one of the joys of being an adult, we get to decide! I wish you the best
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disgustedtoo May 2020
Yup. NO excuses needed or required. We don't answer to anyone but ourselves. Doesn't matter if it is family, friends or people on this site (there are a few) who think it would be better for you to take this on. It is NONE of their business and we don't owe them ANY explanation.

As Daughterof1930 says, the discussion should be focused on WE need to get EVERYTHING in order to ensure mom is cared for properly. If she has a home and/or savings, these need to be handled in a way that the funds will cover her care. Elder Care attorney can assist with this prep, and can also help if mom has no assets (Medicaid.) naela.org can help find EC attys in your area using your zip code. Research places with available space. Draw up all questions for EC atty and the facilities you call to inquire about. They all, including the attys, have different rates, different services covered by those rates, extra charges for services beyond the "basics", and TOUR the ones that interest you, when you can of course. Ask questions - facilities will talk their places up, so you'll want to see it for yourself. Usually EC attys will allow a first limited consult for free. Go with the one that makes the best impression, not just the best price!

By getting prepared NOW, hopefully when the time comes (soon enough!) everything will be ready to go. If moving is delayed because of the virus, you could explore hiring help - you might have to accompany them initially, until she becomes used to having them there.

Any assets mom has should be used to cover costs (aides, facility, EC atty.)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2csSPkBEKus

Play that for them. Gradually increase the volume and play again each time they ask.
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kdcm1011 May 2020
Hahahaha......thanks for the chuckle!
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No. No. No.

I couldn't possibly do that. No

No.

No.

No.

Mom needs more care, there are some lovely facilities that provide 24/7 care for people that have that need. How about all 3 of us pick 2 that we really feel will meet mother's needs and work together to pick the best one.

Live with me? No.

Quite frankly they both could care for mom, you just have been chosen by them for this. It makes it easier for them. Don't buy into their wants. This is your life and you need to stand up for yourself and not be browbeat into doing something that you don't want to do.

It takes a village to care for an adult that can no longer care for themselves. You are not a village.
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jacobsonbob May 2020
Yes. I was thinking that the brother, just because he is in his mid-70s, may be just as capable as "Momsgoto" and the sister is probably already at home with her disabled son (who, depending upon his disability, might not require as much hands-on care as their mother would). I'm just adding this because I think the siblings are simply assuming the OP, because of the age difference (but how old is the sister?), etc., is the logical candidate to take on this task.
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No. I can’t possibly take her into my home.
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Someone here once said "No is a complete sentence." I never forgot that valuable sentence - use it, too!
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Myownlife May 2020
So true!! We need to all come together and repeat this at least every week :)
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It's hard to say "No" when you are the, perhaps, obvious choice, but you still need to.

I think meeting with your siblings to put the subject of mum's increasing needs and care on the table is a good idea, so the hints can be openly voiced, options discussed and duties shared, as appropriate. I made it clear for years that I would not take my mother into my home. I did agree to be POA financial and medical which is something that needs to be discussed with your mum and sibs. If she is in early dementia she can still appoint a POA. That needs to be done asap.

When mum pressures you about moving to your home, gently answer that you love her and will always see that she is looked after. She is probably sensing her own decline and needs reassurance that her offspring will care for her.

You and your sibs need to discuss and look into suitable facilities, financial resources (medicaid application if there aren't any), and evaluation of your mum's dementia. She needs to have a needs assessment so you know what type of facility she would fit into.

"How can I say no and have them understand that I just don’t want to be tied down to a 93 year old person with dementia just when I can start living my life."

You can say no even if they don't understand. That they understand is not necessary. It would be nice and might help cooperation, but it is not necessary. You say it will not go down well with your sibs. You are not alone. Many here have critical sibs, who, on the other hand will not lift a finger to help. We get a tougher skin, look after ourselves and look after our parent as works for us. Having POA and being a supportive daughter is still a lot of work.

Stay firm, don't explain, state what you are prepared and not prepared to do, don't expect understanding. If you get it great. If not, oh well.

I was POA from a distance - physically and emotionally. Both my mother was and my sister is a handful, to say the least. Mother finally passed in 2018 aged 106 in a nursing home, having been first in assisted living. I was 80 at the time. You are wise to plan for some enjoyment in your retirement. I managed to have some trips and new experiences even though I was POA and aging myself.

Please come back and let us know how you are and how things are going. ((((((hugs))))))
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Momsgoto May 2020
God bless you for your well stated reply. I will take your wise advice. It means a great deal that you have walked in my shoes.
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I suggest you meet with your siblings to discuss mom's future needs and how they will be met. You can tell them she has mentioned that THEY have said she should move in with you. You may find that is totally not true...my father and grandmother were fond of saying "They said..." when they wanted something but when you asked for exactly who "THEY" were, no one could not come up with a name.

Tell them right off the bat....you taking her into your home is not an option. None of you will be capable of caring for all her needs and you are smart enough to know hiring help will never be enough...so let's just forget that and move on to other options.

You need to deal with this before she has an 'incident' happen and you have to find placement for her quickly. Often people make a snap decision to take a parent in 'for just a little while' and it ends up permanent. Don't do it. Get ahead of this and start making a plan of action WITH your siblings.
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disgustedtoo May 2020
"...WITH your siblings."

Depending on their responses/reactions, it may be WITHOUT your siblings, but it still doesn't mean you have to take her into your home or move into hers, it would just mean making the decisions yourself.

Siblings can be a real PITA, growing up and as adults too! Some are not like that, and it is refreshing to hear from those that aren't!
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Hello - it seems like you feel guilty a little for not wanting your mom in your house. Understandable. But you aren't obligated. It also seems like you might have difficulty being direct "no".

From someone who had lots of therapy to say "no" - you can start the conversation politely "what options should we consider for mom's future care?" with your siblings. if they nominate you - politely decline "no, i am not able to do that, her care needs are beyond my ability and will only increase" and do not explain more. Any argument about wanting leisure time, etc will be railroaded by siblings. The explanation is that mom needs more care than you can provide - so the conversation needs to be around where will she get that care - what type of living arrangement. (assisted living, etc)

An arrangement that does not depend on you to spend 24/7 or significant time being hands on. You will have involvement in her care as will your siblings. But you will not be providing the hands on care.
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Supooh May 2020
great response and healthy approach for “momsgoto”. She can still love her mom and help her while she gets the care she needs at a facility which will give her peace of mind as well. I know all to well how caring for a difficult parent can affect our mental and physical health.
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I am sorry that you are in this situation but you should tell your siblings no and stick to it. They have their reasons for not being able or willing to allow your mother to live with them and so do you. You are still working full time and your mother should not be left home alone for that many hours if she needs assistance with her care. It is also important that you continue to work so that you can prepare for your own elderly care needs. I guess it is easier for your siblings to put the responsibility on you, because then they can go on with their lives. I agree with you it is time for you to enjoy some leisure time because you have sacrificed enough. Why can't your mother go to a facility where they are trained and 1 person does not have to provide 24/7 care? I hope that everything works out for all of you.
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I made the choice NOT to take Mom in; it was the right choice. Make sure you give her time, tho, & reassure her you will be there for her. And give your siblings a hotfoot: you are not an only child. This was one of the worst of my troubles: all children have to find a way to pitch in! Come visit her, give you a break etc.! Best of luck!
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I think you should be self-determined rather than other-determined.
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Everyone has choices. That is your choice if you don’t want to sacrifice for your mother. Someone does have to eventually step up and help her. My gosh she’s 93 years old. She cared for you and your siblings. I’m so hurt as a human being when I see situations like this.



God bless you and your siblings. I truly hope you have a change of ❤️ Heart.
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dogparkmomma May 2020
Why should she have a change of heart? She can assist her mother to find care, but that does not mean moving her into hew house. She already is getting tickets to a guilt trip from her mother and siblings. She does not need one from her too.
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Because I said YES, we have not had a vacation/a life in three years.
We are retired and have not been able to do much. She is a 24/7 needs person. Cannot leave her with anyone (she will fall and we will get a call to come back or whatever). Seven years ago, I said yes and the last 2 years have been the worst. Remember, she will get worst and worst with time. JUST SAY NO. Make other arrangements for her. We get help from caregivers during the day, but still can't go far from the house. Good Luck
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The worst part about taking care of your mom 24/7 is it’s 24/7. You have no life after that. Mine Has LBD I am her lifeline but she has taken it from me. I have no freedom I must take her every where I go, Watch her constantly I have no freedom.
she is incapable of doing anything for herself. I had to schedule all my appointments on my husband’s day off like doctor dentist etc. or I would have to bring her. I left my job 4 years ago to care for her I am turning 65 this month. I have no feelings of freedom. Think about it I have no siblings I am an only child. You get invited to a wedding, BD, baby shower, etc. you can’t go unless you bring your mother, and do they have a handicap entrance or bathroom. It is just simpler to say I cannot attend.
Think about it, long and hard.
The only time I get freedom is when we put her in respite for vacation that is heaven for me. I did find a daycare finally that I used maybe 3 times that was good also I could do my shopping and appointments without her. But I still have to get her up feed her dress her transport her to a certain time and then pick her up.
after 4 years I just want to get up and not have to do anything for her. And she doesn’t know who I am, just some friend who takes care of her. Keep your life!
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Of all the answers, I only see one that subtly implies that you SHOULD take your mother in. Don't let any one else send you on a
guilt trip. You have carefully considered the facts of your situation. If you are POA, this is not the last decision made where you will stand alone. Being courageous is an uncomfortable thing - but it is nor deadly.
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Do you not think you have a right to say no? Of. Purse you do. You’re an adult and can make decisions that are right for your life. You simply say "I will not be taking mom in to live with me. So let’s brainstorm for when she needs care". There are no obligatory take in a parent. You can be a better daughter from afar. If you want to give up any semblance of a life, retirement then take her in and by the way expect absolutely no help from your siblings.
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Been there, done that. Preferred answer would be to find a n assisted living facility midway between you and siblings. I could not do that to my father and I pulled him out of a rehab in the state he lived in ( had been living alone for years 10 hour drive from me). I was working 50-60hrs per week/ siblings were farther away and not able to do it. Got in touch with local sr care advisor and had care givers come to my house for 8 hrs each work day to take care of him. Paid them from his social security. This worked ok for about 1.5 years ( multiple hospital trips for falls as he refused to use the walker) some better physical therapists got him to move around better and his life was going better. I retired at 63 because work kept adding more trips and additional jobs. After that I found I was able to relax and do more with him. Make it as easy on yourself as possible. I had him on mainly frozen meals or easily made dishes. I was shocked when he passed away one morning while I had a morning nap. But he never had to go to memory care and passed in the bedroom that was his. Yes it can be a lot of work, but with good caretakers it’s satisfying to know that you parent is getting the help they need and You can leave the house for sanity breaks or shopping during the day
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geoblue May 2020
Oh also the state had social workers and therapists who came and worked with him for 3-4 months after each hospital trip, was very good to teach him how to walk better and use walker correctly they actually had him doing exercises which I could continue having him repeat after their time ran out. You do not have to be alone in this
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My husband and I had my mother 24/7 for 10 yrs. I was verbally abused by her numerous times over that period. She could be very nice at times. But if she misplaced her things she would accuse me of stealing from her, and numerous other things. It's like the world rotates around her, and her wants. My husband and I have been married for 51 yrs, and he is nearly 79 yrs old. We had always planned to travel, and enjoy retirement together. Instead we spent all this time having a very narcissistic person controlling our lives. The straw broke when she falsely accused my husband of physically abusing her. She is now in a nice assisted living residence-----but is still doing everything she can to make our lives miserable. Due to the covid-19 we can only see her through the window. She is profoundly deaf, so she feels very alone------and therefore I feel guilty. She calls me and tells me that she is NOT going to stay there once the lock-down is over etc. Of course she can't hear me, so she just rants at me! When she went into A.L. my husband and I thought we could finally do some of the things we wanted to do ------then the covid-19 hit. So now we are sitting at home thinking about the 10 years that we wasted by taking care of a very selfish, unappreciative, narcissist. Find a nice residential place for your mom, and live your life on you own terms---before it's too late!
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disgustedtoo May 2020
:-(

This is the situation the Goody-Two-Shoes don't get and/or don't experience. I knew my mother would be difficult to live with even without dementia, but after? Nope. She also outweighs me, so I can't support her weight.

It is a shame you couldn't organize a respite and do at least ONE trip somewhere!!! Hopefully things will get a bit better, but maybe you can just "pretend." Get a nice big screen and bring up various places you always wanted to go and browse the images/videos. Meanwhile, dress up as if you are there, make special meals, etc!

I managed a few trips when I was much younger, but really don't have the desire to go all those places. I can see things much better online! Sure, it takes the fun out, but really the cost and inconveniences and/or disappointment that some places aren't what they are cracked up to be kind do it for me! You can always keep your "travels" more local. I never saw the appeal of cruises myself, and certainly wouldn't want to consider one now! Not much better considering flights, airports, traffic, etc - yech.

Try to make the best of things, now that she is out of your hair!
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Just no! I am living this horror and I am so sorry I didn’t say no! Everyone e will jump ship when time get tough, do t do it.
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