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Rob you've been really nice to this lady, Thank you for being so kind and helpful, but it is time for you to connect her with those who can really be of help, She probably needs to downsize from where she is and move closer to the services that could be provided for her.

It appears you may be slowly getting "sucked in" helping her as much (It must have been for a while since you mentioned post co vid) Don't invest so much thay you lose yourself in the process.
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I live near Tampa, Florida. I volunteer at a Christian women's resource center for women like your friend and women in other at-risk situations. In Hillsborough County, we have a couple of police officers assigned to help the at-risk population. I am fairly certain that Miami-Dade County has a similar program. Please call the police on their non-emergency phone number about your foster abuela. They should be able to connect her with all the resources available in her area. Also contact local churches since they also know the available resources in her area. Thank you for caring for her needs during a time when she greatly needs the help. It appears she may need a different living situation.
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Rob, I've read all the answers and see you have received much good advice. I want to go in a bit of a different direction with my answer.

Obviously, you were sensitive to this elderly woman's need and you have great desire to help her and to do so in a wise way. I suggest that you should look at the bigger picture and consider whether you might want to pursue your education toward a career in social service, specifically for seniors.
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babziellia Jul 2020
I love this suggestion!
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Please contact adult protective services and they will investigate and put in services for her. As sweet as you are you may have stepped into a hornets nest. I will share that I recently had to step in and take care of my mother. We have been estranged for many years. She also estranged herself from all the family and most of her friends. Long story short, she has dementia and couldn’t manage her affairs, care for herself or get groceries. She imposed herself on some people. Now she has accused them of stealing from her (not true but they made bad decisions thinking they were helping). She made mistakes in her finances that cost her dearly, and could have been avoided if family was involved and authorities were notified. The people who tried to help her were in over their heads and it has been a headache for all of us. In the end she is the one that lost and the people helping her have been accused of taking advantage of her.
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Rob, you have been such a good and helpful friend. It would be wonderful
if you could make connections for her so that other groups already set up in the community can help her. Then you can more happily let go. I see that you have many helpful suggestions in the answers here.
Its a bit of work for you I know but it could make all the difference for
her and indeed for you and your caring heart. You have done the right thing in
reaching out to this forum at this time. Well done!
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Bravo to you.
You are such a conscientious and caring person and give of yourself so selflessly but your kindness can backfire and end up with you managing her life. So be careful. Contacting her local elderservices and social services will not only take the burden and worry off you, but give you peace of mind that there are other people who can help. She's not alone. Do not take on more than you can handle. You need your time and energy for yourself.. Most likely the neighbors started out like you, but then her life became too much to handle and they callously dropped her, which is sad. Let us know what you decide.
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shad250 Jul 2020
Exactly, start out with grocery, then on to home maintenance, lead to move in and taking care of her and home.
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God bless you, Rob, for helping this senior lady. While you will be busy trying to help her, you also need to think of yourself. One of the ways is find a caregiver support group, and that goes for the other correspondents in this forum, too. That really helped me with my husband's dementia. When he got too demented to stay alone, I got in home care for 2 or 4 hours, so I could go to lunch with the girls after the meeting. You shouldn't have to foot this bill for caregiving, but you need to get someone's attention that you cannot and should not give that much help to her as you aren't a relative.
You should contact your local/county Area on Aging who will be able to help you at least give you some information on where, what, and how. You also should consider a lawyer to protect yourself. People with dementia or alzheimer's sometimes confuse things in their mind. This woman does not sound purely sane, no offense. God put people in situations like yours because He knows this lady will be helped. But, in defense of yourself, God expects you to find ways, and Area on Aging, local caregiver groups can help provide sources as well. I hope some of this is helpful.
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Rob trying, you do have a beautiful heart and soul!! Your heart is on the right place. You have done enough for her. Please call APS or a social worker to help her from now on. You have done so much already, but she’s not your responsibility. Your heart truly is in the right place!!! Thank you for everything you have done for her, you kind soul!!
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As others have said, you've been very kind. It's always nice to read heartwarming stories about people helping others. However, this is becoming more than just a ride now and then to help this woman out.

As others noted, checks can be ordered by phone. If she explains to the bank the issue with the mail box, they might be able to have them shipped to her home. However, given that she cannot collect her mail, how will she get and pay her bills, even if the check issue is resolved?

For the mail box, if the PO owns that, it might be like the ones that they had at the condo complex our mother was living at. There was a group for the condos in each area. They are similar to PO boxes in the PO, but standalone. The person delivering can open the back side and put everyone's mail in, then each person has a key to access their mail box. When mom couldn't find her key, I contacted the PO about it. They don't have spare keys for those and it would require replacing the whole mechanism for her, with a new set of keys. This was going to cost her! Fortunately she did find the second key and we avoided the replacement. So, she could contact the PO and request either a key, if they can do that, or have it replaced and get new keys. She would likely either have to go to pick up the new key(s), which you could facilitate, or perhaps they might be nice and deliver the keys. She still would need to get to the box to pick up her mail after that. Can she walk that far and back?

As for the groceries - the concern others had could be valid. If there are distant relatives, they could accuse you of bilking her. If she needed Medicaid at any point, unless she is saving the receipts, they would consider this "gifting" and could deny her benefits. Even social services, if they get involved, could give you the stink eye. It would only be your word to protect you and that might not get you far.

While you could help her by suggesting the possible check and mail box solutions, there is still the issue of you having to buy and get reimbursed by check. The last thing you need is to be accused of elder abuse just for trying to be kind! Also, as others noted, if she has difficulty doing things, who is caring for her place? There's always regular maintenance and then there are emergencies to take care of. It might be best to talk with her and suggest she call social services to see what options they might have for her. She may not need much yet, but as she gets older, it can't hurt to have someone watching out for her. Some aide companies allow their employees to go to the store for the clients. Very few will drive them there and back, probably due to liability, but they do exist. However she is reluctant to go because of the virus, so if she can hire some company to do her shopping, she could pay them by check. I know it sounds like the same thing you are doing, but they would be able to back up their services, where you likely can't.

If she can manage to get the checks and mailbox issues dealt with, perhaps you could suggest she order her foods, either online if she has access, or by phone, and have them delivered. She could make payment by check to the store, handed off to the delivery person when the food and supplies arrive.

Even if this doesn't work out, do keep that handy helpful spirit! Just beware and don't let people take advantage of your kindness (if they keep pulling you in to do more and more, they are abusing your kind spirit!) Hope things work out well for your "adopted" grandma!
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Your story reminds me of a commercial for a local furniture company. A young man in his 20s goes over to an older ladies home to fix either an appliance from his company or furniture. While there he looks at and fixes a scratch on a table probably not from his store.

Before pulling in the driveway he takes her trash cans and puts them by the garage. When leaving she gives him a trash bag to take out the trash, Commercial ends,

Ironically, the same company had a similar commercial with similar incident, this time though it was 2 guys. When they were leaving she asked/thought that they would take out her trash, they politely motioned no thanks, and waved at her.

Point being, you can be too nice and be taken advantage of either intentionally or not.
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Rob,
You need an interpreter.
Contact her church.
Or your church, asking a wise lady or a couple known for their service, about your parents age. Meet them there to introduce Mary.

Do not take on more roles or chores for your friend. You can oversee her getting help.

Not sure about in your county, but the elderly are getting offers of food delivered and other services for free by agencies throughout
the United States. (reason for calling 211).

Today is Friday, last chance to make some calls before the weekend.

Can she write the checks made payable to the store, with your employer's permission? Do you really want to continue that part of your caregiving role?
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Checks are easy to order by calling the bank and this cannot be the first time she has had to order checks in her life. The fact that she is clueless about how to do this now, and that she hasn't DONE it as checks ran low is your big clue to the fact that she is not in a good place, especially down that dirt road, and no mail, and it is going to get worse. I think the neighbors who WERE helping have left a clear message that they are done. That story doesn't make sense on the face of it, so perhaps lost in translations. Neighbors don't act in your behalf for some time, then dump you 10 miles away at a store.
So basically I am saying you are getting pulled into a swamp that you are not going to survive in, and tough-love talk, you need to stop it now. It will not get better. In fact it will get a good deal worse.
Your neighbor is now reportable to Adult Protective, not because she is abused but because she is helpless, without transit, down a dirt road with no family. She needs now the resources of the County and perhaps even guardianship of the county.
Thank goodness for Send Help, but I would add caution that you not get yourself involved in this, but begin to wind OUT of helping. This lovely lady needs some placement in housing from which she can negotiation the world, Covid or NO covid.
I hope you will keep us updated, because now as you try to get her connected to help you will be able to tell us what you are finding out, who will help, and how it goes.
You have BEAUTIFUL heart and soul.
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gdaughter Jul 2020
None of us know enough of the details and are making assumptions. Just because the neighbors dumped her doesn't mean they were burned out from involvement. Just because the lady lives on a farm doesn't mean she can't and should be deemed incompetent and forced out to other housing because it would make everyone else feel better. Rob the poster could easily stay involved if he wished, even if getting some guidance from the local agencies to assure all is legally in the best interests of all. She may not need a guardian at all.
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Your Parents are right. Time to call in people who can help her. You sound young, so I would not even consider POA. There is a lot of responsibility as POA. Social Services or Adult Protection services will try to find any family members she has. They will make sure she has what is needed. DO NOT use your own money unless an emergency. You can help her call the Post office for a new key, if they own the box, Banks still have people working. My bank has the option of ordering checks on line. Hopefully you kept the receipts or copies showing you bought food and she reimbursed. Do not allow this woman to continue to lean on you. If she is alone, you may have done her a favor. The APS may be able to find her a safer place to live.
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As others have pointed out, you've done enough. It's so nice that you did what you did when so many would not. Have you asked why the neighbors left her at the store? Issues you may not be aware about?

You say she lives on a farm. Who is taking care the upkeep, cutting the grass, etc?
If you keep going, she could convince you to take care of these needs as well. (You're already grocery shopping for her, so it is starting).

She may be lonely as well, and would welcome your company to do more tasks for her as well.
Time to contact those who know how to handle these situations to get involved.
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Rob, I also want to compliment you on your concern, generosity and willingness to help this woman.    When my parents and sister needed help, those who stepped up to provide it were cherished, and remembered.    Those who didn't help but asked for items after the individual deaths will also be remembered, for their greed.

In these challenging times, it's heartwarming to read of someone who reaches out to help someone in need.
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Echoing Send's advice, one doesn't need to go to a bank to order checks.   I just call the bank's designated check supplier and order them.    Any banker at your friend's bank could probably help her.

There's another option which I raise just because one never knows when a relationship like this can backfire, especially if she has local or out of town relatives with whom she's not close.    The option would be for her to get a credit card with your name, and again I mention this only as something of which to be aware.    It has and can cause many problems, and I think your generous nature might not see that right away.   

Another possibility is for her to open a line of credit with the grocery store, although I have no idea whether stores in FL would do this for regular clients.   If it's possible, she could speak with someone at her bank to find out how to transfer funds directly to the store, which would keep you out of the financial circle.   She could call in her orders or e-mail them if she has access to a computer.   You could merely pick up and deliver.

Our local Michigan stores have made arrangements for pick up and delivery, but I also know that it's not the same as having someone you know select the foods, especially if you don't want substitutions (I don't.)

Another possibility is to find out the closest senior center to her, and investigate whether or not they have a van service through a local transit company.  In Michigan, some senior centers do this; my father's SC had 2 vans, with schedules arranged for medical appointments and shopping.    This I think would be a desirable arrangement for her if it weren't for the pandemic issue.  

But if she masked, she could at least have some companionship, and a reliable source of transit not only for shopping but for medical appointments.

Another alternative is directly through the local transit authority, many of which have "small buses", "direct transit", "connector", etc.    Advance notice is required;  fees are extremely reasonable, and the client (your friend) can choose the route.  

Following up on Send's excellent advice re another mailbox key, it wouldn't hurt to contact the local post office and determine if there's another way to provide mail delivery much closer.

Although I haven't been in one of the vans, my best recollection is that they have capacity for at least one wheelchair, if that should ever be needed by your friend.

Another thought is to find an Hispanic group locally with which she could connect, just for telephone companionship even if she doesn't develop personal relationships or use any services for groceries.

If you're not familiar with these types of transit, this is a link for the system that serves the SE Michigan metro area:

https://www.smartbus.org/Services/Connector/Using-Connector-Service

NotGoodEnough's suggestion of Meals on Wheels is also a good one.  My father had that service and met some very, very kind and concerned people.  The daily food drop-offs were a nice chance for some short conversations.

Another alternative is to buy in bulk, from someplace like Gordon Food Stores.   There would still be a need for fresh produce and fruit, but if Gordon delivers (I'm not sure about this), it would decrease the need for interim shopping trips and provide her with a good supply of canned goods if/when the pandemic continues or spreads.
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Isthisrealyreal Jul 2020
What does Michigan have to do with this?
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I would NOT do it if I were you. If she has family, they will most likely turn on you and accuse you of stealing her money or something. Just saying. I would stop unless you are POA. And if she gets injured and you are there they can say it's YOUR fault. If she is unable to care for herself call adult services and let them deal with it - unless you have legal authority like POA stay clear away.

IF she has no POA and she is with it, see an eldercare attorney and get DPOA (Durable power of attorney). You also need to be declared her healthcare surrogate. IF YOU DO NOT DO THESE THINGS STAY AWAY FROM HER.
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You are a tremendously kind hearted person. That's the first thing I want to say!

Try giving your local meals on wheels organization a call, and
1) maybe arrange for food to be delivered and
2) I'm betting, especially in Florida, this is not the first time they've seen this situation. Since they go out to people's homes they are probably a wealth of information about local resources this woman could receive.
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shad250 Jul 2020
Good advice, but he mentioned she is a nice distance from his store, so options may be limited
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You’ve gotten good advice below. This sweet lady will need more help going forward than you can provide. I’m just chiming in to say how wonderful it is that you’ve cared enough to step in, speaks very highly of your character. You’ve been a blessing Rob
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Call 211 from her house. Have her answer their questions.
Ask for resources for seniors during Covid. Shopping help.

Checks can be ordered by phoning the bank, having them sent to the address on file, the home address.

You should not be advancing the money for groceries at all, comes the day the checks run out, or a check bounces. And there your name is, on her financial records, what was all that money she was paying you for, do you have receipts, an accounting? See?

Have her phone the mailbox company to mail her another key to her home. Maybe the mailbox company can Fed-ex or UPS her mail to her finca.

Your employer is liable for what you are doing grocery-wise for her, and would not be happy to hear how you are "helping" (getting involved financially) with a customer at their store. Fired?

Follow your parent's advice before this becomes one hot mess, for you. So sorry life is that way now. You can fulfill your good samaritan role by getting the help she needs, instead of doing it yourself. The good deeds you have done will come back as false accusations to you. Have you not heard? No good deed goes unpunished?

Now that this sweet little old lady has you trained to be advancing money for her, how do you know that it is not you who is vulnerable?

Of course you can talk to your parents about this. If you are doing this now secretly, behind their backs, and behind your employer's back, well then, you are not going to heed my warnings either, are you?

So this was meant to highlight the downside. There must be a silver lining somewhere...................................................................................................................................................
Thank you for taking her home. Once. Your role is finished now, imo. Harsh, huh?

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Gershun Jul 2020
There you go. Send knows more than this little old gal from Canada.

It's great you are trying to help but one cannot be too careful.
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Rob, first off you sound like a gem. A truly kind person who has a big heart.

I don't live in the States. I live in Canada so I don't know the laws, the healthcare system there etc. But I would say that first off you need to really investigate whether your friend has any relatives of any kind anywhere. Cousins, nephews, someone who is kin. But failing that I don't imagine you have very many legal rights and would need to ask her to perhaps appoint you POA. Can a non relative be appointed POA in the States? I'm sure others on here can help you there. It's a dicey situation though cause her money, assets if she has any need to be protected from unscrupulous people and even you being a non relative. No offense but one can't be too careful.

I know others on here who live in the States will be able help you better than I but there's my two cents.
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