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My father was receiving SS direct deposit on the 1st Friday of every month .... and it was for the preceding month...so in the month he died...that month payment had not been made by social security.
My mom has her SS deposit on the 1st weekday of each month. It is for the preceding month.
My SS is deposited not later than the first Friday after the first Wednesday of each month. And it is for the preceding month.
There is not a trick out there about which Social Security does not know. They've seen them all, and heard them all.. If a citizen reaches the age of eligibility, he/she may apply for S.S. At that point, the approval process begins, and once eligibilty is confirmed, the checks from S.S. are sent to the recipient's mailbox, bank, Credit Union, or other financial institution of his choice.. No third party, be it a Home, hospital, Living Facility, friend or family member is legally eligible to receive such funds. And this is how it should be. Although Austin is well-meaning, the Nursing Home can only ASK for S.S. checks to be sent to them. They cannot DEMAND it....even if the patient is on Medicaid. What they can demand is a draft signed by patient, POA, or Estate Executor to be signed over to them (the Nursing Home). That way, they get the monthly check (same amount) through the proper channels.
In my state the nursing home gets his SS checks if he is on medicaide -if he is self pay then they could go to his family-that is how the nursing homes get money to care for people from their assests when a person is on medicaide and if any money is hid by any means there will be problems down the line.
The Nursing Home does not get checks from the Social Security Administration. Your father's S S checks will come to the address on record, just as they have been.....either a direct deposit to his bank, ( preferred), or to the postal mailing address. The estate executor should take over at this point.....Personal Representative in the state of Florida. Either way, the S.S. checks belong to your father.
My dad is still in the nursing home and has been for 2 years. My mother was receiving my dad's ss check and her ss check when she was alive. But my mother just died. What happens to my dad's ss check? Does the nursing home get the social security check now?
I think my answer was deleated-you and he should see a lawyer especially if he was also getting social security plus cashing ones made out to her-if he has dementia that is one thing-but you need to clear this up ASAP
JaydenMarie: I had to re-read your question: " Can my mother still receive my father's social security after she dies?" Answer: Of course not. No one receives social security after one dies.
i need to speak with an elder lawyer- i live in nyc-my mom also lived here- over 55 yrs-she was moved to mass. by my brother who lives in mass.also-it is 4 hours away from where we lived., i was her advocate-her caregiver-her strenght for over the last 13 yrs, i was involved with her med problems and aphasia, and more complications that have developed.-i have a brother- when an ins policy that he got for her went into effect,he took over- everthing-he kept the info secret- and made sure i was not "authorized"to find out the details-it never seemed quite right-he also made it impossible for me to gain any info -financial-medical -about mom-we went thru a very bad time of agencies-that didnt really know what they were doing,hospital stays, improper aides,etc. and of course blocking me from giving important info-and eventually he just bullied his way and closed and emptied her apt of 55 yrs, where we grew up,and moved her to mass. where he lives-away from me, her friends- any visits were impossible- she was in a strange environment,strange doctors-i wasnt there-couldnt give them all the info i knew about her- and things got worse- my brother said she had my name taken off as health proxy- something i know she didnt want me to be left out of- since i was with her throughout so many years,and i knew the doctors,etc., i believe my brother was able to coerce or trick mom to do something she didnt want to do. i was never notified about the so called new POA-i still havent seen it and its been over a year now- he also refuses to give me an info about finances-her will-any info -and he never included me when he closed and emptied the apt. he says the things are in storage- but he will not tell me where- i had some things, some furniture,clothes etc. in her apt, since i would stay there often. he just flatly refuses to tell me anything-he said to call her lawyer- i did- but of course, the lawyer said- oh i cannot discuss anything with u. i need someone with legal experince to help me ......my mom never wanted me out of her care- she is 87- on many drugs- and of course dementia and/or alz. has set in. I have had an extremely hard time and so has she- since so many drugs are given,anti psycotic etc, she more manageable- this is such a shame-she is isolated in mass. in a "pretty"NH- but it is still a warehouse as most of them are- she was a bright-intellegent active ,and aware woman- i know much damage has been done and her health,mental and physical cannot be reversed- but i dont think that her care was what it could have been, and the fact of removing her from me, and all that is familiar was very damaging and unecessary. i want to know where her things are-i want my personal things- and see whats happened-i also think i should know about the contents of her will,financial situation- she never wanted me to become invisible-or locked out as i have been. i feel this is an unfair situation and i have tried but failed to be back into what is left of her life. I must add, this is a revenge thing-my brothers behavior- our dad passed about 5 yrs ago and made me executor-the lawyer and financial men who were involved, with dads estate were very unprofessional and did all they could to increase the problems between my brother and myself. i had to fire them, they were not professional-my brother is still angry-convinced he was cheated- but he wasnt- and all financial info was given to his lawyer-however that is another story.
elinoula7: Whew. During that ten year period after your mother's death, was your father also receiving HIS social security checks and depositing them also? Is your father still alive? If so, he will have to return the total of her checks or his checks, the lesser of the two . The bank who received the deposits of records will bill him for this amount or just remove it from his chekcing account. If he closes his checking account, then the bank will go after her estate, and when your father dies, then his estate. No getting around it, somebody's going to pay.
You need to see a lawyer especially if he was receiving his own SS and hers there could be a problem unless he has dementia this is againt the law and I am suprissed the bank would be cashing the checks.
Cat said it correctly, however, when you choose the larger of the two SS checks, the amount is not the same as your spouse received during the end of his life. I don't know why. You just don't get all of it.
Also, and this is very important: SS checks are automatically deposited into the bank account of record on the fourth Wednesday of every month.( All months havea fourth Wednesday). However, during the month of the decedent's death, that check MUST be returned to The Social Security Administration. SS will contact the bank, and the bank will contact you. This applied to all SS recipients, no matter what day of the month they died..even if they died on the last day of the month and had already received their SS check for having lived almost all of the month in which they received their check. Go figure.
I am so sorry to hear of your trials and tribulations with the VA. Yours is an unusual case in that it is rare for the process to take quite so long. It has been my experience that efficient claim for VA pension benefits is predicated on the application being properly completed and sufficient evidence being submitted with the application. Properly completed and evidenced applications will, again in my experience, be processed in less than 120 days. I know it is frustrating, but you will, eventually, see the funds.
My father (a WWII vet) passed away in June 2009. I immediately filed a claim for survivor's benefit for my mother (age 90). After a full year and congressman involvement, she still had not received any payment although recently the VA decided she was eligible for aid and assistance. Unfortunately, she passed away recently and now I am told the ongoing claim (which payout was soon to come) is halted and we (the children) must now file a new claim for any payment. We were paying over $1500 monthly for a caretaker and other fees for her care. Why would it take 13 months to even decide favorably was beyond my comprehension and now to have to re-file a claim after all that time is ridiculous to me. Thus the inefficiencies of our U.S. government in taking care of their own! What are our chances of ever receiving any compensation for my mother's long term care these past 13 months now?
Your mother can elect to take her benefit, or her deceased husbands benefit - whichever is larger. She cannot however take both. So the answer is yes, she can get his benefit after he passes.
Call SSA and a rep can answer any questions you might have on how to do it.
I think that Mr. Robbins has very favorably honored the VA with the abilitity to offer benefits to Vets and spouses of Vets. This is simply not the case. I find that very few Vets have collected on benefits from the VA, with the exception of burial rights and life insurance.. My guess is that the requirements are difficult to meet ( low income, low assets etc.) and a long investigative process which may result in denial of benefits. Sad but true.
When my husband died I did get his SS benifit because his was bigger but after taxes were taken out it was not too much more than what I was getting but every little bit helps.
I AM NOT SURE IF THE RULES AND REGS ARE DIFFERENT FROM STATE TO STATE-HOWEVER, WHEN MY DAD PASSED~ MY MOM BECAME ELIGIBLE TO CONTINUE COLLECTING HERS OR TO COLLECT THAT WHAT MY DAD HAD BROUGHT IN (BUT NOT BOTH) . YOUR SOCIAL SECURITY OFFICE, WILL BE ABLE TO GO THRU THE PROCESS WITH YOU.
Absolutely not. Each person has their own S S number and that number is assigned to only that person. After your father passes, the surviviing spouse must notify the S S Administration as to the date of death. Certificate required. The Administration will calculate 1) Whether or not the survivng spouse earned more or less in their lifetime so far. One payment will stop completely and the greater payment will take over. The spouse who survives will receive a check on the fourth Wednesday of every month which will represent the better of the two checks that theyhad beenreceiving. If there is an overpayment they will collect from your depository bank.
Perhaps you misstated your question? Did you mean after "he" dies? If that is the question, then here is the answer:
If both are receiving Social Security when he dies then mom gets to pick either his benefit or her benefit. Usually the highest is selected (sensibly!). This is a huge problem for so many elder households, losing a third to one-half of income upon the demise of a spouse.
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My father was receiving SS direct deposit on the 1st Friday of every month .... and it was for the preceding month...so in the month he died...that month payment had not been made by social security.
My mom has her SS deposit on the 1st weekday of each month. It is for the preceding month.
My SS is deposited not later than the first Friday after the first Wednesday of each month. And it is for the preceding month.
Although Austin is well-meaning, the Nursing Home can only ASK for S.S. checks to be sent to them. They cannot DEMAND it....even if the patient is on Medicaid. What they can demand is a draft signed by patient, POA, or Estate Executor to be signed over to them (the Nursing Home). That way, they get the monthly check (same amount) through the proper channels.
Your father's S S checks will come to the address on record, just as they have been.....either a direct deposit to his bank, ( preferred), or to the postal
mailing address. The estate executor should take over at this point.....Personal Representative in the state of Florida. Either way, the S.S. checks belong to your father.
Answer: Of course not. No one receives social security after one dies.
i believe my brother was able to coerce or trick mom to do something she didnt
want to do. i was never notified about the so called new POA-i still havent seen it and its been over a year now-
he also refuses to give me an info about finances-her will-any info -and he never included me when he closed and emptied the apt. he says the things are in storage- but he will not tell me where- i had some things, some furniture,clothes etc. in her apt, since i would stay there often.
he just flatly refuses to tell me anything-he said to call her lawyer- i did- but of course, the lawyer said- oh i cannot discuss anything with u.
i need someone with legal experince to help me ......my mom never wanted me out of her care- she is 87- on many drugs- and of course dementia and/or alz.
has set in. I have had an extremely hard time and so has she- since so many drugs are given,anti psycotic etc, she more manageable- this is such a shame-she is isolated in mass. in a "pretty"NH- but it is still a warehouse as most of them are-
she was a bright-intellegent active ,and aware woman- i know much damage has been done and her health,mental and physical cannot be reversed-
but i dont think that her care was what it could have been, and the fact of removing her from me, and all that is familiar was very damaging and unecessary.
i want to know where her things are-i want my personal things- and see whats happened-i also think i should know about the contents of her will,financial situation- she never wanted me to become invisible-or locked out as i have been.
i feel this is an unfair situation and i have tried but failed to be back into what is left of her life.
I must add, this is a revenge thing-my brothers behavior- our dad passed about 5 yrs ago and made me executor-the lawyer and financial men who were involved, with dads estate were very unprofessional and did all they could to increase the problems between my brother and myself. i had to fire them, they were not professional-my brother is still angry-convinced he was cheated- but he wasnt- and all financial info was given to his lawyer-however that is another story.
can u help me?
Is your father still alive? If so, he will have to return the total of her checks or his checks, the lesser of the two . The bank who received the deposits of records will bill him for this amount or just remove it from his chekcing account. If he closes his checking account, then the bank will go after her estate, and when your father dies, then his estate. No getting around it, somebody's going to pay.
Also, and this is very important: SS checks are automatically deposited into the bank account of record on the fourth Wednesday of every month.( All months havea fourth Wednesday). However, during the month of the decedent's death, that check MUST be returned to The Social Security Administration. SS will contact the bank, and the bank will contact you. This applied to all SS recipients, no matter what day of the month they died..even if they died on the last day of the month and had already received their SS check for having lived almost all of the month in which they received their check. Go figure.
Call SSA and a rep can answer any questions you might have on how to do it.
HAP
If both are receiving Social Security when he dies then mom gets to pick either his benefit or her benefit. Usually the highest is selected (sensibly!). This is a huge problem for so many elder households, losing a third to one-half of income upon the demise of a spouse.
Was dad a vet? As a surviving spouse she may be eligible for up to $1,000 per month for care when the time comes. See: http://www.vba.va.gov/bln/21/pension/vetpen.htm#7