Alzh101 Asked September 2018
Both parents with dementia and one passes. Should surviving spouse attend funeral?
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Both parents have Alzheimer’s and one parent is currently on hospice. Both live together in a facility and one parent will be passing soon. Since the surviving parent will want to know where the spouse is, I have been told to not say that the spouse died if it upsets the surviving parent. That being said, should the surviving parent with moderate Alzheimer’s attend the funeral of their spouse or might that be a bad idea? We are trying to prepare for the inevitable. Any ideas or suggestions? Have any of you experienced this that could share what you did? Thank you.
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Understand that even if the surviving spouse does attend, chances are they won’t remember having been there or that their spouse has passed. It might also be a good idea to have someone there to rely on in case the spouse needs to go back to the facility during the funeral or needs anything else.
Once the funeral is over, I agree that you should not constant,y remind the survivor that their spouse has passed. They won’t remember what they were told. Then is the time for the Therapists Fib. “She (he) will be right back.” Etc.
The night before there was a gathering where many family and friends were in attendance.
She seemed to enjoy being with everyone although she was confused and upset when she would see FIL in his casket.
As long as she didn’t spend too much time by the casket she seemed fine. By the end of the evening she seemed to accept the situation. She may have simply been mirroring our behavior.
As she was on hospice and very ill with cancer she was in a wheelchair so we were able to position her where she was comfortable. We had one family member who seemed to think it was his job to make her understand her husband was gone. After we got him on board, she was fine.
The next day she went through the funeral service without a problem.
At the graveside, FIL, a WWII vet, was given full military honors. It was very touching when she unexpectedly stood and saluted when taps were being played. It was so spontaneous and is something our family will never forget. The honor guard were visibly moved by her response when they presented the flag. We all felt so proud of her.
Afterwards we had a meal at FILs Church. She was fine there as well.
if we had experienced a problem, a couple of us would have taken her back to her NH. It wasn't necessary.
She died one month and one day after FIL.
You know your parents best. It would have never occurred to us not to take her.
I think in some ways it was harder for me to take my mother at 94 to her son’s funeral. She didn’t have dementia. With dementia the heart gets a bit of respite. Without, all is perfectly clear.
You might find comfort in having your parent with you. I think my inlaws did. But do take time for yourself as well. No matter how sick they are or have been, it’s tough to lose your parents and it’s also tough to lose a spouse. No amount of planning can get around that.
Following his death, mom's behaviors escalated to the point that she was kicked out of the memory care facility. Was it due to his death and no longer visiting her, having lunch with her on a daily basis? Very likely, but there is no way to know for sure. Mom could not be reasoned with, barely verbal and never would have been able to figure out what had happened. Mom passed eight months later. So have a plan B in place for surviving spouse.
When mom was evicted hospice recommended a smaller care home where all residents had been kicked out of their previous facilities. There was a better care ratio and was even cheaper each month. Though she did need a private caregiver on and off to be a companion to her which helped with her behaviors and that was an additional cost.
Short answer? No surviving spouse should not go to the funeral. In foresight you should have a plan in place in the event that the surviving spouse experiences the increased agitation that mom did.
I am very sorry this is happening to all of you.
And getting to that....
Depending on how aware the surviving spouse is I may not even tell them, or tell them once then not again. If asked again where "Stan or Sue" is explain they are in another wing because they have a cold, they are out to the Doctors office, out for a hair cut, shopping...any number of places. There is no need to learn again for the first time (does that make sense?) about the death of the love of their life.
Do not feel guilty about not bringing your parent to the funeral. No one will question why they are not there..and if anyone is so insensitive to do so they do not deserve an explanation as they will not understand the why.
And another side note, do not be surprised if your surviving parent declines quickly after the death of their spouse. Even if they seem unaware of things going on around them I do believe there is a connection that continues and they in some deep spot within will feel and understand the loss.
((hugs)) to you during this time, I do hope Hospice has helped you through this.
..Then my Dad was alive when his caretaker son, was in the room with him,after having a seizure and dying the next day...……..after prying the door open,
..as I found them togethter with Dad blind and demented thinking his son was sleeping ……….I found him after many hours..so my brother had a cell phone but was incapacitated...…..to add insult to injury Dad had to go to a Nursing home after simultaneously being admitted to a Hospital with his son five rooms away in Palliative care..no no no as agreed in NYTIMEs article whether to tell a person suffering from dementia that his son caretaker died...I simply would tell Dad that my brother had gone to Italy for a vacation...as I was around him for the next six months until he died of a UTI admitted to hospital from NH with
TOXIC SHOCK... don't know about this..ill have to live with this until I die.
I realise this does not answer your question, but only you know whether on balance attending the funeral will help your parent come to terms with what has happened (however imperfectly and temporarily), and how able your family will be to give him/her practical support on the day; and you will only be able to decide that *on* the day, given the unpredictable fluctuations in mood and coping ability that you're likely to be having to deal with in addition.
I hope slightly more helpfully, I would like to point out a number of things that you ought not to worry about:
having to decide on a fixed plan right now
other people's being huffy about changes in plan if they are necessary - let them huff
other people's not knowing what to say to a mourner with Alzheimer's
other people's opinion on whether or not your parent should be present
This is for your immediate family alone to decide on, and you should do so without anxiety or apology. You will be doing your best in extremely difficult circumstances and no one has any business to second-guess you.
I don’t know the extent of the surviving parent’s dimentia, but if they didn’t have the disease they would want to be there so by bringing them you did what you know they would have wanted. BUT if you feel it will really upset them I see no harm in not sharing the bad news. Sometimes little fibs are for the best. I should add that my parents were both at home and it would have been impossible for me to make excuses as to where dad is day after day.
I pray that all will go as smoothly as possible and that your parent will not have to endure any extra suffering. Many of us have been down this road with our parents and it is not easy, but God can give grace in these special times of need.
are trying to protect Your Parent from grief and sadness and
it is done out of pure love.
Dad passed after only eight days under hospice care. At 1am, after the hospice nurse had been called, my brothers, sister in law and I, were at a loss whether to wake mom and tell her that dad had passed away. The hospice nurse told us to wait until she departed the house.
Mom went completely off the rails, screaming at us all, "you are all lying to me, you all get out of my house, that is not Bob, what did you do with him", screaming. The whole episode was SO disturbing to everyone, we all attempted to talk her down, one at a time, to a calmer state, but nothing worked. Then the funeral home people showed up....it did not get any better.
My family and I never had a quite moment to be with dad after he passed. And all we had in front of us was the care for our mother. The next few weeks were nothing but quickly learning how to deal with an Alzheimer person that had become paranoid/delusional/angry. To this day, she will ask, "where is your father! ".
My suggestion to you is, NO. They most likely will not remember the entire situation. You can believe that they would want it like this or that, save them and yourself from anything like we had to go through, and we still have to deal with.
It's so sad.
When my mom was in the moderate stage her last surviving brother (who we'd visit often, until I had to place her) passed away. When he died, we (5 of us) took her out on the patio away from the other residents and staff and told her "he was sick and didn't make it, he passed away". She stared at us blankly with no emotion as though we'd said nothing. Our family was split on whether to take her to the funeral or not. The family member with the POA made the decision ( with the rest of us objecting) and she attended. At the end of the service she then said, clearly, "Oh, now I understand what you were trying to tell me, My brother died" and we said yes and gave her hugs. she's never said anything more.
My mon was fond of my husband she'd always ask where he was if he wasn't present.When he died suddenly, I was dreading her asking me while trying not to look sad or cry. She asked where he was as she always did and I calmly said "He went home to be with the Lord" she quietly said, "He died" and has not asked about him since. It was just she and I when I told her and I didn't bring her to his services.
So, I think each situation, each family is different and you know your family member best. I think the wording you use is important, simple words, brief explanation if necessary, how many are present when you give the news I think one or two people and not a crowd is best and where the information is given could make the difference in whether they understand what's being said with whatever level of cognitive functioning they're working with.
I will keep you in my thoughts and thank you for reaching out.
The process of getting LO dressed. For a woman, getting her hair and makeup done, are part of the ritual. If her memory or ability to recognize the person comes and goes, you might say,
" Someone you loved/cared deeply about has died. We are going to say our final farewell". Use words used in her family for generations, avoid new terms like Celebration of Life. Then, if she asks, tell her who had died, and how many days ago.
Take photos of her with the family, a few group shots or shots from a distance of the casket and flowers, the casket being placed in the hearse. At the cemetery. And get several Memorial Cards.
The ritual will help imprint an important passing. The photos can reassure her she was there to say her goodbye.
For example, she may not recognize her son, but only the very nice blonde man who is so kind when he visits. Even if that is all she has on her good days, she will be more saddened if she was prevented from attending. Her grief will be compounded by mistrust and feelings of betrayal.
Remember, dementia patients have communication stuggled. They do not verbalize all of their thoughts. Why mention a son you know to be alive, and you know you forget when people visit. I is not always an indication that they don't think of that person.
If they are so advanced they are forgetting the death months or a year afterwards. This is when going with their beliefs, rather than re-traumatizing them is the way to go. If there is a day they wonder about the person, then you have the photos, etc. to share with them, comfort and reassure them that they got to say goodbye.
The only exception is if she has a medical condition where the doctors feel the stress of the news would likely kill her. Rarely is that truly the case.
After breakfast, my mother matter-of-factly wanted to know what the phone call was about hours earlier (she’d heard the phone ring).
I was not prepared for her reaction. I explained that during the night, her son - my brother - experienced erratic and uncontrollable blood pressure and had passed.
It was as if she’d been stabbed in her heat. She gasped for breath and repeatedly exclaimed, “He died?!!...No!” I had to rush and get a paper bag & ask her to take deep breaths. She was hyper-ventilating.
Two weeks later she went to the memorial service & became emotional when “Going Home” was sung. She understood -in a deep sense-the words.
Three months later, we travelled by minivan to inter my brother’s ashes in the family plot (out of state). After the service, she got down on her knees and kissed his gravestone. She seemed finally at peace - she was quite agitated during the months prior (we waited till late spring to arrange a family reunion following the internment.
My mom died 8 months later. With moderate dementia, she still understood more than I’d have thought after my brother’s death. She kept wanting to know why we hadn’t “buried him” - but once that happened, her mind was able to rest.
You owe a person the truth unless you have demonstrably sound reasons to withhold it in an individual's particular circumstances. The person in this case has moderate dementia, is probably not yet at the stage where repetitive questioning has become an issue, and is possibly well able to comprehend that her husband has died. The situation has to be handled with sensitivity; and if it proves distressing for her, or if she plain doesn't want to go, or if it's impractical to give her the close personal support she will need, then there is no shame either in her giving it a miss.