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At the point they are no longer safe to be at home. I think you can imagine the reasons. Wandering and being unable to find way home, starting fires, leaving stoves on, and etc. Your physician can help with these questions and assessments.
I live next door to my single Mom, and I'm her only child. I'm her DPoA. She has expressed many times that she doesn't want to go into a facility, even though my MIL is in a great LTC one 2 miles away and gets awesome care. The agreement I've made with her is that she transitions to a facility the minute she's unsafe at home (and I get to decide that) and/or I'm overwhelmed or am no longer able to manage her care. Period.
The caregiving arrangement has to work for the caregiver or it's not working at all. This is the trigger IMO.
That's solely up to you. Will they rely on some sort of assistance like Medicaid or do they or family have money for their care? Are they living with you or do they have their own home? If they have their own home and are financially able or the family is financially able, it's actually more affordable and as far as I'm concerned healthier to have a live in caregiver, and a part timer care for parents. People do much better in their own environment versus being put into other environments. Many times it can be detrimental to their health. If it's something they want to do or in the grants with then by all means go for it. If they are relying on Medicaid, you may want to look into long-term care at home versus a long-term care facility that accepts Medicaid. Please be very careful when choosing, some are not so nice. My daughter works in the industry and has left several jobs because she's strongly believes in excellent care and wont stands for anything less
I disagree that it's better to keep them at home. My parents took 5+ years for their final illnesses, and I kept them in their home with a wonderful live-in 24/7 caregiver plus relief caregivers plus OTs, PTs, housekeeper, and other help as needed. The daily barrage of helpers was staggering, and when hospice got onboard, we had doctors, nurses, OTs, PTs, volunteer music maker, chaplains, social workers, and on beyond ridiculous in and out all the time. The scheduling was a chore. Plus there were my parents' own doctors, dentists, eye appointments, cardiac appointments, oncologist, bladder, kidney and every other specialty doctors. Scheduling was needed for all of them, and transportation by us. It was exhausting.
My parents would have been better off in a nice care facility with socialization of people who had things in common with them. People from the community where they had lived for 80 years, familiar faces and anecdotes. A lovely dining room that resembled a restaurant, where they could all meet and reminisce. If ONLY!
Instead my parents wanted to die in their own home with their old (oldoldold) things, closets crowded to the max with 80 years worth of junk, and caregivers, who though they were wonderful, spoke in accents that my hard-of-hearing parents had trouble understanding. There was so much stress in this for the whole family. Life upended. No joy in any of it.
I'm not a fan of 24/7 care at home. You don't know what you've bitten off until you realize you can't chew it.
For me, if they are living alone, as soon as Dementia is diagnosed. IMO by the time they are actually test they have had it for a while. Dementia is unpredictable. If they can afford it, an AL would be my first choice depending on the stage they are in.
I based decisions on SAFETY If it had ever become unsafe for my Husband for me to care for him I would have had to place him. If it had ever become unsafe for me to care for him I would have had to place him. Luckily the house is one that was built Handicap accessible so that helped a lot. He was on Hospice for a while (almost 3 years) so I got extra help and all the equipment that I needed to safely care for him.
It also depends on what YOU can do. Or what you are willing and able to do. What is your "line in the sand"? What will you not do or can not do. For some it is incontinence, showering or other personal care. For others it is violence, agitation that makes it dangerous.
When the level of care becomes more than you can manage the decision is Hiring Caregivers or looking for placement.
And I am a firm believer a person with dementia should not be living alone. You never know when it might get to a point where they wander off, leave a stove on, leave water on, fool with the furnace.....
Side note...since you are in Illinois contact Elderwerks.org they have a GREAT resource book on line the phone number is 1-855-462-0100 Elderwerks is a great resource of all sorts of programs.
From my experience, it is all up to the people who care for the person.
If you have a wanderer, if you can safely keep them at home, then they don't need to live somewhere else.
If you don't mind paying others to help with laundry, cooking, cleaning at home, personal hygiene, and caregiving, then the person can safely stay in their home.
When my Mom lived in her condo, there were lots of people who had 24 hour caregivers in the same building. The lobby was staffed at night, therefore there was no chance that someone would accidentally escape out of the building. I put my Mom in a MC facility because of I could no longer deal with the caregivers who called in sick and could not be replaced; the cleaning up after my Mom's incontinence; her neediness; and the fact that I felt I was losing my temper faster and more frequently.
I have since found out that some others put their parents in MC much earlier than I.
There is no one set answer.
If you are thinking about it, you should begin to do the research so that when the time comes, you know your options. That in itself will relieve some of your stress and help you answer your question.
Waiting until care at home is no longer possible isn’t ever a good idea. Prolonging placement isn’t good for caregivers or the person in need.
People who are suffering from dementia and in need of more care than family members can provide often don’t realize how difficult it is for their families.
In these situations, the caregiver should decide what is appropriate for themselves and the person that they are caring for.
The caregiver can help by making arrangements for placement. Then they can return to being a family member and become an advocate for their family member in a facility.
Arranging for a person to be placed sooner rather than later will allow them to adjust to their surroundings more easily.
Start looking at facilities. Do your research to find the most suitable place.
When it’s either unsafe for the person with dementia or it’s unsafe for the caregiver , or the caregiver is thinking the question you just asked.
It is better to not wait until you are burned out. There may be waiting lists . Tour some facilities , plan the placement sooner rather than later if financially possible. Waiting until dementia is very far along can be a tougher adjustment for the patient .
Add on . I just read your profile . It’s been my experience that when a parent rushes you off the phone it means things are even worse at home than they want to admit to , and are trying to hide that fact to avoid going to a facility. This could be a red flag. Sounds like both parents need placement asap.
I was a homecare worker for 25 years. I'm going to say most elderly people in good health who don't have Alzheimer's or some other kind of dementia need some help at home. Two elderly people, in poor health and one definitely has Alzheimer's is a tragedy waiting to happen.
No one with dementia should be living alone. In fact, I think it should be illegal for people with dementia to live alone.
Home isn't always best. There are lovely assisted living facilities. I was a supervisor at a very nice one. Check out a few places now because it's going to get worse with them and there's usually waiting lists for AL facilities.
Your parents need to be placed. I'll tell you truthfully that I've had many clients who were way beyond what homecare can provide. They were unsafely being kept "home" by well-meaning family members (some not so well-meaning and it was to save money). I usually walked away from those assignments because they become unsafe for the caregiver too.
I always thought that the time would be when my mom's dementia was so advanced that she did to know me. I am not sure that opinion was based on what was best for my mom or if it was related to the fact that I did not have the nerve to place her when she was aware of what I was doing.
But, if you wait until they are very confused, it is harder for them to adjust to the new environment. My mom never did after I placed her. I think it would have been easier had I placed her when her mind was a little clearer. She would have been more social and open to new friends.
For me it was the economics of having full time care in the home (she was not safe staying alone at all) and, to be honest, the exhaustion I felt from caregiving. I just could not do it anymore and it was impacting my husbands health also.
Safety for the loved one and sanity for the caregiver.
are they safe? Are the care givers truly able to take care of the parents, because that is a full time job. If the caregivers are becoming mentally and physically drained that is not good for anyone.
I was in denial about my parents. After my dad had to be placed in skilled nursing then a personal car residence, my mom became depressed and started experiencing more falls and dementia. I am the only child. There are no wills and I was never given POA. My mom is hospitalized now and they are considering putting her into a locked facility because of her combative behavior. I felt guilty not being able to pick her up off the floor or prevent her from falling. I live a few miles away. My mom is no longer my mom because she is losing her cognition. She had a mini stroke too. I cried in despair. The right thing to do is to keep our parents safe and turn them over to professionals. Aging can be very cruel!
I agree about turning them over to professionals. Professionals provide so much better care than the average person who thinks that love can get them through caregiving because "we love each other so much." No, it can't.
Yet I'm posting this in a forum for caregivers. I'm singing to the choir. Where is the forum for the 60, 70, 80, 90 and 100-year olds who think they are owed caregiving by their adult senior citizen children? When said children deserve a retirement and a life free of oxygen tanks, Depends, doctor appointments, etc. etc. etc?
I truly believe that elders need education about how NOT to become dependent on their children. It needs to start early. The concept should be repeated frequently. It could be a mantra: "When I am old, I do not have the right to be taken care of by my children (add grandchildren, nieces, nephews, parents, and the guy down the street)." Also add, "My government does not have to provide for me, and knowing that, I will scrimp and save and live frugally, even buying used cars and refurbished smartphones, so that my own money will pay for my care."
LOL, are you laughing yet? Not going to happen. We are stuck with them.
My health and happiness was in jeopardy when I was sole caregiver to my mom, she realized the toll it was taking. I started visiting different AL facilities and found a good place. I asked her to go for two weeks and see what she thought, the place provided respite stays. Luckily she liked it and has been there since July. She had her estate planning in order and I was POA, that was important. I had to sell her car and house to pay for her care, but it’s been worth every penny.
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Based on your preferences, we provide you with information about one or more of our contracted senior living providers ("Participating Communities") and provide your Senior Living Care Information to Participating Communities. The Participating Communities may contact you directly regarding their services.
APFM does not endorse or recommend any provider. It is your sole responsibility to select the appropriate care for yourself or your loved one. We work with both you and the Participating Communities in your search. We do not permit our Advisors to have an ownership interest in Participating Communities.
II. How We Are Paid.
We do not charge you any fee – we are paid by the Participating Communities. Some Participating Communities pay us a percentage of the first month's standard rate for the rent and care services you select. We invoice these fees after the senior moves in.
III. When We Tour.
APFM tours certain Participating Communities in Washington (typically more in metropolitan areas than in rural areas.) During the 12 month period prior to December 31, 2017, we toured 86.2% of Participating Communities with capacity for 20 or more residents.
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You have no obligation to use or to continue to use our services. Because you pay no fee to us, you will never need to ask for a refund.
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I think you can imagine the reasons. Wandering and being unable to find way home, starting fires, leaving stoves on, and etc.
Your physician can help with these questions and assessments.
The caregiving arrangement has to work for the caregiver or it's not working at all. This is the trigger IMO.
My parents would have been better off in a nice care facility with socialization of people who had things in common with them. People from the community where they had lived for 80 years, familiar faces and anecdotes. A lovely dining room that resembled a restaurant, where they could all meet and reminisce. If ONLY!
Instead my parents wanted to die in their own home with their old (oldoldold) things, closets crowded to the max with 80 years worth of junk, and caregivers, who though they were wonderful, spoke in accents that my hard-of-hearing parents had trouble understanding. There was so much stress in this for the whole family. Life upended. No joy in any of it.
I'm not a fan of 24/7 care at home. You don't know what you've bitten off until you realize you can't chew it.
Assisted living today is good, they are with people their own age, have activities, no house cleaning or cooking.
Don't wait until it is an emergency, start the process now.
If it had ever become unsafe for my Husband for me to care for him I would have had to place him.
If it had ever become unsafe for me to care for him I would have had to place him.
Luckily the house is one that was built Handicap accessible so that helped a lot.
He was on Hospice for a while (almost 3 years) so I got extra help and all the equipment that I needed to safely care for him.
It also depends on what YOU can do. Or what you are willing and able to do. What is your "line in the sand"? What will you not do or can not do. For some it is incontinence, showering or other personal care.
For others it is violence, agitation that makes it dangerous.
When the level of care becomes more than you can manage the decision is Hiring Caregivers or looking for placement.
And I am a firm believer a person with dementia should not be living alone. You never know when it might get to a point where they wander off, leave a stove on, leave water on, fool with the furnace.....
Side note...since you are in Illinois contact Elderwerks.org they have a GREAT resource book on line the phone number is 1-855-462-0100
Elderwerks is a great resource of all sorts of programs.
If you have a wanderer, if you can safely keep them at home, then they don't need to live somewhere else.
If you don't mind paying others to help with laundry, cooking, cleaning at home, personal hygiene, and caregiving, then the person can safely stay in their home.
When my Mom lived in her condo, there were lots of people who had 24 hour caregivers in the same building. The lobby was staffed at night, therefore there was no chance that someone would accidentally escape out of the building. I put my Mom in a MC facility because of I could no longer deal with the caregivers who called in sick and could not be replaced; the cleaning up after my Mom's incontinence; her neediness; and the fact that I felt I was losing my temper faster and more frequently.
I have since found out that some others put their parents in MC much earlier than I.
There is no one set answer.
If you are thinking about it, you should begin to do the research so that when the time comes, you know your options. That in itself will relieve some of your stress and help you answer your question.
People who are suffering from dementia and in need of more care than family members can provide often don’t realize how difficult it is for their families.
In these situations, the caregiver should decide what is appropriate for themselves and the person that they are caring for.
The caregiver can help by making arrangements for placement. Then they can return to being a family member and become an advocate for their family member in a facility.
Arranging for a person to be placed sooner rather than later will allow them to adjust to their surroundings more easily.
Start looking at facilities. Do your research to find the most suitable place.
Best wishes to you.
It is better to not wait until you are burned out. There may be waiting lists . Tour some facilities , plan the placement sooner rather than later if financially possible. Waiting until dementia is very far along can be a tougher adjustment for the patient .
I just read your profile .
It’s been my experience that when a parent rushes you off the phone it means things are even worse at home than they want to admit to , and are trying to hide that fact to avoid going to a facility.
This could be a red flag. Sounds like both parents need placement asap.
I was a homecare worker for 25 years. I'm going to say most elderly people in good health who don't have Alzheimer's or some other kind of dementia need some help at home. Two elderly people, in poor health and one definitely has Alzheimer's is a tragedy waiting to happen.
No one with dementia should be living alone. In fact, I think it should be illegal for people with dementia to live alone.
Home isn't always best. There are lovely assisted living facilities. I was a supervisor at a very nice one.
Check out a few places now because it's going to get worse with them and there's usually waiting lists for AL facilities.
Your parents need to be placed. I'll tell you truthfully that I've had many clients who were way beyond what homecare can provide. They were unsafely being kept "home" by well-meaning family members (some not so well-meaning and it was to save money). I usually walked away from those assignments because they become unsafe for the caregiver too.
Your parents need to be placed.
But, if you wait until they are very confused, it is harder for them to adjust to the new environment. My mom never did after I placed her. I think it would have been easier had I placed her when her mind was a little clearer. She would have been more social and open to new friends.
For me it was the economics of having full time care in the home (she was not safe staying alone at all) and, to be honest, the exhaustion I felt from caregiving. I just could not do it anymore and it was impacting my husbands health also.
Safety for the loved one and sanity for the caregiver.
Yet I'm posting this in a forum for caregivers. I'm singing to the choir. Where is the forum for the 60, 70, 80, 90 and 100-year olds who think they are owed caregiving by their adult senior citizen children? When said children deserve a retirement and a life free of oxygen tanks, Depends, doctor appointments, etc. etc. etc?
I truly believe that elders need education about how NOT to become dependent on their children. It needs to start early. The concept should be repeated frequently. It could be a mantra: "When I am old, I do not have the right to be taken care of by my children (add grandchildren, nieces, nephews, parents, and the guy down the street)." Also add, "My government does not have to provide for me, and knowing that, I will scrimp and save and live frugally, even buying used cars and refurbished smartphones, so that my own money will pay for my care."
LOL, are you laughing yet? Not going to happen. We are stuck with them.