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Just wondering about my aging process, that's all. It's probably just me and the dementia, lack of focus, or irritability etc. Please don't anyone take this personally, thanks.
I don't mind a post that's a bit long if it's well written - as in, easy to follow, not rambling, and most importantly - doesn't repeat itself over and over. I'm 54.
I am also 54 and I also dislike long posts. If its well written and helpful thats one thing. If its self-indulgent..................well thats another story.
I think you can tell how people think by their posts. The ones who write long, rambling posts probably have that kind of thought process, which is part of what causes them issues. If they would take five minutes, organize their thoughts (or go back and proofread what they wrote), they'd do so much better. Or even ramble in their first effort, then go back and organize it before posting. But with disorganized people, it's like verbal diarrhea. They just spew it out with no clarity or organization. And we, as caring people, have to try to make sense out of it.
I'm 65 and I hate long posts that ramble, don't provide the most basic information, or where you can tell the person posting is the cause of the underlying issue. They never want to hear that, of course.
As long as they are clear, and make sense, I don't mind, and if they aren't, well I don't have to read them or respond to them. Not every post is relatable to my issues or interests.
I'm guilty of the "long post" and I can truthfully say it's often because I have nowhere else to vent. Hubby will only tolerate a 5 minute update, then he checks out. I don't share with the kids unless they ask (they don't). Sometimes the issue at hand is just complicated.
I don't mind a long posting as long as they are broken up into many paragraphs. Otherwise if it is one very long full page write up, I just can't read it, I lose my place :(
And if there is no punctuation, thus a 300 word sentence, it's too confusing.
But it's my understanding it depends on what device one is using to write on the forums. Using a standard computer keyboard makes it easy to break into paragraphs.
Now correct me if I am wrong, if someone is writing via a Smartphone or Kindle [or whatever they are, I am not up with this stuff] that it takes a double or triple space to create a new paragraph but not many people realize that. Or the device just doesn't do new paragraphs.
Oh, another thing, I think one problem is the box is so small to write in that one forgets they had already written the same thing at the top of the post as what is at the bottom of the post as they can't see what they already wrote unless they do a lot of scrolling.
Now, I use Firefox as my way to get to this website.... and lo and behold at the bottom right corner of this box there are tiny dots.... one can grab those dots, pull straight down, and make the box as long as they want. These dots aren't on IE and probably some handheld devices. As mentioned above, I use a standard old fashioned keyboard with a desk top computer. So in this case, older IS better :)
Well, I'm a long poster, but I make no apologies for it. I try to provide a background and support for my suggestions, and I think that's important, at least in my perspective. Advice can be considered helpful or not depending on the poster's background and approach to solving the problem. Shoot from the hip answers aren't ones I would follow.
And usually the longer posts are in response to complicated issues.
But I usually don't read original long posts, especially if they're stream of consciousness or begin a diatribe against family or facility within the first few sentences.
On the other hand, those kinds of posts suggest it's time to put on the Sherlock hat and decide if the post is for real and the poster is seriously in trouble or if it's just another goofball playing games with us.
Longer posts that are well-written and meaningful are fine with me. I think everyone knows the type of long posts we're talking about. They are usually give way more detail than necessary, have no punctuation or paragraph breaks, and are generally unpleasant to read. I don't feel bad about not reading anything that makes me irritable. If I were to respond, I would just probably give an irritable answer -- not something that someone looking for support needs. Fortunately, there are members here that do a better job than I would.
I've noticed for myself I often do a three-paragraph thing. Must be the way my mind works.
Nothing more to add, but I thought I'd better add another paragraph so I wouldn't contradict myself. (Being silly here. Sorry.)
Jessie, that's what I thought others were referring to as well. If I even see the "my mom is mean to me" or "I hate my siblings" I don't even bother to check the post.
Ahhhh, but GardenArtist, my mom IS mean to me! Lol, actually since taking her to the Geriatric Psychiatrist - a tip from someone on this site - moms actually been quite pleasant.
RainMom, I wasn't thinking of you.... but I think we both know what I meant! It's the Cinderella syndrome - sacrificing for someone who's allegedly abusive, being unable to maintain any sense of self, putting up with abusive behavior but not being able or WILLING to change, and enjoying coming here to rant on and on and on ad nauseum to get pity for their plights.
Oh well, I am guilty, but not this time. On the dysfun fam thread I don't post every day but try to respond to others who have posted which makes it long. as well as sharing my stuff, I don't mind long posts. Sometimes people are just venting which is a legitimate function here I think,
Sometimes, I don't have to read a long post to become annoyed with just about anything. Add up a lack of REM sleep, untreated pain, a messy house, piled up chores, and the poor fool that is a troll posting on here is just not going to get me at my best.
However, when I read people's expert and compassionate responses on here, it seems to temper my annoyances, as I am just amazed at people.
Approaching this question in psychology, it would seem that how long a post is or is not is an issue of control or jealousy by the person who gets annoyed.
LindaSusan, do you actually have dementia yourself, or are you just feeling that way? Answer not required, but can we help? Self-assessment can help, with ideas to cope by those in the know.
I am not really annoyed by no punctuation or paragraphs because I just think some of the posters are desperate and some may not be too literate. I think sometimes if the posts are too short, the first 5 answers are people requesting more info in order to answer. Many people who post for the first time don't realize you are given more space for your question in a different block. I am one of those people that answer on their phone and sometimes spellcheck writes some crazy stuff and I can't get back to the top of my post to proofread. So I will apologize now to anyone that I have annoyed. 😱
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APFM does not endorse or recommend any provider. It is your sole responsibility to select the appropriate care for yourself or your loved one. We work with both you and the Participating Communities in your search. We do not permit our Advisors to have an ownership interest in Participating Communities.
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I'm 65 and I hate long posts that ramble, don't provide the most basic information, or where you can tell the person posting is the cause of the underlying issue. They never want to hear that, of course.
Sometimes the issue at hand is just complicated.
And if there is no punctuation, thus a 300 word sentence, it's too confusing.
But it's my understanding it depends on what device one is using to write on the forums. Using a standard computer keyboard makes it easy to break into paragraphs.
Now correct me if I am wrong, if someone is writing via a Smartphone or Kindle [or whatever they are, I am not up with this stuff] that it takes a double or triple space to create a new paragraph but not many people realize that. Or the device just doesn't do new paragraphs.
Now, I use Firefox as my way to get to this website.... and lo and behold at the bottom right corner of this box there are tiny dots.... one can grab those dots, pull straight down, and make the box as long as they want. These dots aren't on IE and probably some handheld devices. As mentioned above, I use a standard old fashioned keyboard with a desk top computer. So in this case, older IS better :)
And usually the longer posts are in response to complicated issues.
But I usually don't read original long posts, especially if they're stream of consciousness or begin a diatribe against family or facility within the first few sentences.
On the other hand, those kinds of posts suggest it's time to put on the Sherlock hat and decide if the post is for real and the poster is seriously in trouble or if it's just another goofball playing games with us.
I've noticed for myself I often do a three-paragraph thing. Must be the way my mind works.
Nothing more to add, but I thought I'd better add another paragraph so I wouldn't contradict myself. (Being silly here. Sorry.)
Add up a lack of REM sleep, untreated pain, a messy house, piled up chores, and the poor fool that is a troll posting on here is just not going to get me at my best.
However, when I read people's expert and compassionate responses on here, it seems to temper my annoyances, as I am just amazed at people.
Approaching this question in psychology, it would seem that how long a post is or is not is an issue of control or jealousy by the person who gets annoyed.
Answer not required, but can we help? Self-assessment can help, with ideas to cope by those in the know.
Many people who post for the first time don't realize you are given more space for your question in a different block.
I am one of those people that answer on their phone and sometimes spellcheck writes some crazy stuff and I can't get back to the top of my post to proofread.
So I will apologize now to anyone that I have annoyed. 😱