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Has a plumber checked her overflow drain?

My bathtubs can not overflow because of these drains. She may have plugged them if she likes to sit neck deep in a tub. It is well worth checking out and asking about modifying them to help with her bad habit.

I would also be very concerned about the subflooring. This can rot from continuous exposure to water and the weight of a full tub and a human could go right through it. Maybe she will listen if she thinks she can fall through the ceiling if the water overflows continue.

At her age you are not going to get her to change how she bathes, it is a loosing battle. I have a friend that is a tub gal and she refuses to take a shower, she will not bathe if she can't use the tub, she was almost drowned as a child and has a fear of water running over her face (this is information that she doesn't share with her children, so they don't know why she is adamant about tubs), so you want to be mindful that she may have a very legitimate reason for not doing showers.

Best of luck getting her to accept an aide to help around the house, but please do not try to make her change her bathing choice. That could be part of the resistance.
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DeeAnna Sep 2020
I wish that your friend would be willing to share her fear with her family, because it could become a problem if she ever has to go to the hospital or an ALF or LTC facility. If a tub or whirlpool tub is not available in a facility, and the facility's DON does not know your friend refuses to take a shower and WHY; then your friend could end up having to be medicated (against her will?) in order for her to receive a shower. (Not professional, but it could happen.)

Years ago I cared for a resident in a LTC facility who was afraid of showers so we made sure that his Care Plan stated that he was to only take a tub bath and that no one was to ever suggest or force him to take a shower. He was a Jewish tailor who lost his family during the Holocaust--they were gassed while taking a "shower". He survived because he could sew uniforms from blankets for the German soldiers.
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I fully agree with Geaton. I’d bet the tub overflow is only your biggest issue and there are many more little fires that need attention. Sadly, this only gets worse. I saw this with my grandmother and our family’s valiant attempt to keep her wish to stay in her home and be independent. I hope you have POA and wish you the best in making changes for aunt
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A tiimer won't work because she won't know why it's going off. I would call a plumber to get some ideas that wouldn't cause you to spend a lot of money. Maybe some kind of sensor can be installed at the water meter that will allow only a certain amount of water to flow before shutting off.
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With short term memory loss you will just be chasing around trying to solve problems and preventing new ones. Not sure how much time you actually spend with her to know if she is really "managing" her finances, or anything else. We discovered that my MIL and her husband we both in a tailspin of decline even though we saw them often and only lived 6 miles from them. Once we started poking around and looking at their checkbooks (a disaster!) and realizing they were paying their ballooned mortgage but not having enough money to buy food, driving and falling in the grocery store parking lots and having to be driven back home by the kind manager, telling us they were taking their meds (and thinking they were but actually weren't)...and on. Trying to stop your aunt from overflowing her tub may eventually succeed with much effort. Then one day she may start leaving the heat on under a pot.

If you are her durable PoA, I think you are at a juncture where you need to do what she needs, not what she wants. This won't be popular, as you already know. You are not obligated to be her live-in caregiver. A reputable agency can help provide an experienced caregiver who is experienced in getting someone like her to bath or shower. Maybe. You will need to decide how much energy you are willing to expend to keep her in her home where she is less and less "independent" with each passing week.

If you are not her PoA, it will be pretty much impossible to legally make her do anything in her own best interests. You will need to pursue guardianship through the courts to be able to do that. If you don't do it, then you will need to call her county APS and report her as a vulnerable adult. The county will eventually become her guardian and then they will call all the shots of her care and where she resides and manage all her assets. You can still visit her and carry on your relationship, if they place her somewhere close. Please be careful about wearing yourself out in this situation as long-distance caregiving is strenuous and stressful. There are no "wrong" decisions in this, just what works best for the both of you. I wish you all the best. She is blessed to have you helping her!
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