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People who were miserable,unhappy and self-absorbed don't change when they age. Getting old doesn't make them eligible for sainthood. Don't feel guilt for her life long behavior. My mother left me as a baby, took care of her step children and gave them everything. Never visited me ever, I didn't exist until her stepson took their money. Now she's living with me,wants a hand maid and servant. Cares only for herself and her needs. Complains about her ailments from the time she gets up until bedtime it's me me me.
I'll be glad when she's gone. She's never done anything for any of her own children. Just abandoned us to mean drunken abusive father's. She's always been a worthless selfish person.
I will be glad when she's gone and I have no guilt for it.
People who have never given love or respect can't expect to get love and respect from their grown children. That boat sailed long ago.
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LonelyStar1814 Aug 2018
Wow..that is awful. You have every right to feel that way. Of course they come running to you when they need something right? SMH. I wish I were in a better place financially because I would leave right now. I just want people to really truly appreciate all that I do and have done although I don't have to, and it looks like that won't happen til I'm gone.
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I feel your pain. I am currently providing care for my 93 year old mother and I have never known her to have a happy day in her life. It is so hard and I feel like the life is being sucked out of me. She is in a senior apartment so between my sister and I we care for her. My sister lives out of town so she may come down for a couple of weeks and then I stay with her. I had to give up my job, which created such a financial burden. I am away from my husband weeks at a time, which is not good for a marriage, I am moving her to my home at the end of the year and she what happens. She can barely walk, have a mild case of dementia, and we have to do everything for her. I feel my life has ended. I understand because my mom is just a shell of herself and I do not like seeing her in this position. She is adamant about not going in a nursing home (because she used to work in one) and we are trying to honor her wishes. She cannot afford an assistance living home, so we are doing the best we can.
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bigsun Aug 2018
When she becomes incontinent you have to sort her in nursing home
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I had the same feelings when my mom was very ill. She fought for a long time and then decided that she was done and it was 5 months of watching her slowly decline that was the worst. It’s ok to want their suffering to end. Now my father is declining and making me insane...I would like my suffering to end. All totally normal.
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I feel as if our parents got to enjoy their 40s and 50s and now they are enjoying ours. The better care we give the longer this goes on !
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It's amazing what parents "expect" from kids , as if we are all supposed to be automatically be their stellar servants and angels for them in their old age... Extreme folly for them to not think ahead. Idiocy to be honest. I am back on meds due to both parents.
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I can totally understand. I have 2 parents like that...
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I understand how you feel. I think it's normal to feel that way in your position. It's exhausting for you to deal with while comprehending how little control you have over it and how she just doesn't seem to help herself or care to.
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To me, it's human and HUMANE to hope for the end of a life that's no longer a life.
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Lonely, no way to get them in a facility? Medicaid for nursing home? Memory care? Anything? The drama will only get worse.... what will you do then? Is there a social worker, or dept of aging, or something that can help you? Sounds awful, wish to be able to help....
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LonelyStar1814 Aug 2018
It's ok, reading my madness is help enough. That is definitely an option and currently what the next step is for my grandfather. Not sure for how long, but I'm worried about him coming back home. You can "elder proof" everything in the house and take all precautions but there's always gonna be something, you know?

My grandmother was supposed to go to a rehab too, but the place is is voluntary so when the nurse who stops by asked her, she said no she didn't want to go and that was that. Right now we have gracious relatives/neighbors who come over for some hours and help, but eventually things are gonna get really real and they're going to stop saying "You don't have to pay me to do this." Which I totally understand.

I'm one of the medical POAs for my grandfather. Those papers had to be signed last week as his current hospital wouldn't let any medical records be released without it. It's just...a lot to try to understand in addition to all that is going on.
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It just keeps getting worse and worse.

With help from other relatives, my grandfather got regular meals again. However, he completely stopped sleeping at night which would result in things like destroying our basement one night, or flipping furniture. I also have not gotten any sleep because I would constantly have to wake up to show him where the bathroom is, etc. In the span of 2 months, he has had 3 falls, breaking his ribs, busting his head and needing stitches and this last time getting strange rug burns all over his face and head.

My mother had to have surgery and had no help so I had to take off of work to take her, care for her then drive across town to check on my grandparents. After just one day I broke down crying, I was exhuasted and have been for months. She felt bad (as I think she should, but that's another story) and her siblings came to town for the 4th of July holiday which helped some. My mom is better now but still has some pain. However she's still on leave from work which has helped a lot in the last few weeks.

My mother has stayed over here some with me and my grandparents. She took my grandfather to an appt for an MRI which turned into an ER visit for his arm (he hurt it in that last fall). The ER visit turned into a week long hospital stay for pnuemonia, dementia and Lord knows what else (I can't keep up, nor do I want to). He was agitated and fought nurses and had to get restrained. They gave him meds that caused him to shake and stop speaking.

Meanwhile, my grandmother also got worse. She stopped eating altogether and showed signs of depression. My mother took her to her doc and she was admitted, mainly for malnutrition (she was only 100 pounds). Ironically, both grandparents were on the same floor just a few rooms down from each other. That week was sent from God, as I got the house to myself, got to clean/straighten/throw things away and got some much needed sleep.

My grandfather was sent to a rehab facility who did not do anything. Last weekend I was out with friends for a break only for my mom to call in a panic because he was sent to a hospital super far out because they said he was agitated. He was transported back to the rehab, where he did not sleep at all, told old war stories and was still agitated. My mother decided to get him transported to another hospital in the middle of the city, as they have geriatric care specialities. He was transported to this other hospital at 4am that night/morning, and is still there. I've only visited once just to say I've been. Luckily he was sleeping when I got there. Apparently in every place he goes, he calls the nurses by my name. Family thinks it's sweet, I think it's annoying. He's not going back to that rehab place and his things have been collected. My mom and aunt found another rehab which he will go to whenever he's released.

My grandmother lied and said she was fine just to get released to come home. She didn't even try to walk, just dramatically fell on the porch for all to see and my mom and I had to carry her inside. She's been insufferable and hasn't really wanted to try to get up to go to the bathroom, sit in the living area, etc., unless someone else does it. I don't have that special touch, nor do I want it. We have a neighbor who has been an angel and is here almost every day to help her bathe, eat, etc. Her antidepressants were changed and her appetite is back, so is her nagging.

I pray every day that God will take both of them away because I am over it all and grieved several years ago. I was done with my grandmother a couple years back when she told an awful lie involving me, and I was done with my grandfather when he tried to attack me a week or so before his hospital stay. I know they're not the same people, and I just pray every day and every night that God can take them and us out of this misery
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bigsun Aug 2018
Totally understand. I am on meds now to try to deal with my folks. Had enough...
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I understand this question is about the guilt we feel as caregivers when we wish something for ourselves; which is completion of a seemingly never-ending torrent of need from human beings who are ill, hurting, depressed and self-centered; the frustration for me is not primarily the physical care but trying to keep my dad's hope going, keep him social and engaged. After years of this, when apparently his dementia caused him to be consistently critical of me while praising family members who haven't spoken to him for years, I had enough of that impossible task of "filling his cup" over and over just to dump it in my face. My answer has been to ask God to "fill his cup" and hang in there to make sure he is physically taken care of, watch a movie with him every night, have my kids visit him frequently and employ my husband to take him for drives....but from me, cut and dried care only. He expressed his dissapointment at feeling "unloved" but he WAS loved, is loved, I just CAN'T GIVE MY ALL for years with nothing left for my family and self. Now he is actively dying; I have some grief but mostly relief and a fear he may change his mind (he has expressed a fear of dying and declaration to live as long as possible) and start making demands. Our finances are drained, I haven't been able to work, he lives on a pathetic social security check which they will take back the month of death (which looks like August) so we are borrowing to cover everything. Short answer: YES I have hoped he would die peacefully and I can then start piecing my life back together albeit with a load of guilt for emotionally distancing from him at the end. Prayers and abundant love to ANYONE out there going through this, I hope God "fills your cup" and mine, to overflowing.
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bigsun Aug 2018
I hear you. I'm done w my folks...
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Cats4Ever's remark is totally uncalled for; stay with the subject, please.
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No i dont think so if some is in pain in his/her old age then it would be better for him/her to die in peace.
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I do it every day. For Trump.
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MAGA. TRUMP 2020!!!
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Don't beat yourself up. My Dad was 91 with advanced dementia and suffered from Sundowners disorder. My Mom was asleep and my father got up, got dressed and went out the back door, open the garage door and sat in the car before walking out and down the street at Midnite. Fortunately someone saw him and called the Cops before be became a speed bump on the busy traffic lane.
The following day, I installed a interior lock at the top of the door and that stopped that nonsense. There were a few times he slipped out of the recliner and we found him crawling around on the floor when we got up and had to call the Fire Men to pick him up.
Then it happened, he was sitting in his recliner and he started screaming, clutching his lower back. I called EMS and got him to hospital and it was a bad UTI. He was later transferred to a Nursing facility and passed away in his sleep 2 weeks later wearing his WW2 Naval hat. Do I miss my Dad, Yes. Did I cry at his funeral, No. The day he looked at me, 2 years prior and asked me Who I was, was the day he died. I don't miss the disease, its like a Cancer of the Brain, it eats away the memory until you become a Zombie, more dead than alive. Dementia and Alzheimer's are worse than HIV or Cancer, at least your loved ones can make their peace with loved ones and with Jesus.
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No its not wrong for she is in very old age and she might be in too much pain. Death s the only thing go her comfort from the pain.
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I feel for you. My dad (90) has been emotionally abusive and controlling towards me, my 4 siblings, and my mom our whole lives. He’s had a number of health issues over the years and was just discharged from the hospital after a diabetic seizure. My sisters had to take him in a wheelchair for pre surgery testing for a prostrate issue that’s causing incontinence because he took a sleeping pill last night, YET four hours later he got in his car (we’ve tried taking the keys away) because my sister wouldn’t immediately take him to the bank when he wanted to to go (she’d just spent two hours on the phone with the bank to clear up fraudulent charges). Honestly, he’s been so horrible to everyone who has rallied to be with him literally night and day, a part of me was just hoping he’d crash the car and die once and for all. We’ve been bailing him out of bad decisions our whole lives. So, a long winded way of saying, I really feel for you.
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nothing wrong with the feeling but that is fundamental wrong to act as it is negative as if your mom was thinking of aborting you @ birth.
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Sounds like you need to pull the plug on being your mom's caregiver .it is toxic for you. Tell her doctor you will not be caring for her when she gets released from the hospital...the best to you an your mom...sometimes you just have to let go.💝
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My mother has always been my best friend. I have watch mom deteriorate so much over the past few years, I love and adore my mother, but yes, there are time I can't help but think how much easier everything would be if she would die. I feel guilty about the thoughts, but I have been told they are normal.
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shadybank1 Sep 2018
My mother just turned 100. I pray everyday that she will go to sleep in Jesus arms. She has been the sweetest, most precious mother ever, but i see her quality of life is so bad now and I pray she will be at peace soon. Do not feel guilty about your thoughts. These are tough days!!!
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No. Like Carol says. Is it wrong? No, just human.
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Sunset,
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WORK ON FORGIVENESS, THEN LET IT GO...AND MOVE ON. THE BEST TO YOU💝
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Not wrong. Personally, I wish I would die.

We don't really hope for anyone's demise, it's just our brain's way of giving us the break that we need. 

I think it's a biological response. A mental or emotional vacation, when unable to take the endlessly recommended "respite". ☯️
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I can't really comment on the grandparents situation because I have not met them.
Taken at face value granny may have just found it too much to prepare something for him when he just turns up his nose at it. Maybe she has just had enough and feels he can just get on with it. Does she cook a full healthy meal or does she just grab and snack.
Perhaps grandpa is entering the last stages of his life and this is just part of the natural progression of the circle of life.
Do either of them see a Dr regularly.
There is probably some depression going on here too.
Granny may indeed not be feeling very well and certainly wants others to recognize that. She probably isn't eating very healthily either. Is Dad the one that gets all the attention?
Complex situation but not really unusual. it could be possible payback time for the possible child his ex had but more likely a lifetime of hurts and slights and she jsut does not want to deal with him anymore.
All I think the family can do is bring meals you know he would like and make sure he eats them while you are there and for the time being monitor the situation.
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Rovana,
Have you ever heard the phrase, "A man can work from sun to sun but a woman's work is never done!" ?
I'm afraid the household duties last until you don't. Thankfully, for those of us who work AND keep house, we can retire from work. The dust, however, will still be waiting.
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Why would that be the most traumatic day of your life? Don't we expect to outlive our parents? The most traumatic day of your life would be something unexpected, IMO. My parents have been miserable for years, both talking about suicide since they were in their early 70s. I have prepared myself, I am certainly hopeful to outlive them. It will be sad but not traumatized.
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When she passes, it will be the most tramatic day of your life....please...enjoy what you have for memories.
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Somewhat off topic, but this brings up the question: when does the homemaker get to retire? You know, stop the cooking, cleaning, etc.
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I can't believe it's been 4 months since I wrote in here about my grandparents. To update, my grandfather turned 90 last month, and we had a gathering for him at our house which was nice. Everyone pitched in so it wasn't too much on one person. Things with my mother have gotten better since putting my foot down and demanding help. We still split grocery and errand runs, team up or tag team with cleaning up around the house. We have a nextdoor neighbor who graciously cuts the lawn when needed too.

He had to have emergency eye surgery recently after a doc appointment. He's fine but had several bottles of drops that have to be given daily. My granny does it mainly except for nighttime as she goes to bed early, so I sometimes have to do the last couple bottles. I've noticed he's got his days and nights mixed up now which happens because he sleeps so much. I often have to remind him he doesn't need to go get the paper at 9pm. I've started writing down these occurences.

It also seems like everyone seeing my grandfather recently has made folks realize that he will not be here forever. Partly because of age, but also because he is wasting away. He was never heavyset, but he had a nice weight on him and now he doesn't. Turns out, my grandmother has pretty much stopped cooking...for him. She will fix herself food and snacks, but doesn't care to do much more than that. He is used to breakfast/coffee and a home cooked meal, and is very picky about anything that isn't a meaty meal. She now wakes up 11am or later as if to skip breakfast. My mom and her siblings are frustrated because they believe she is intentionally starving him out, due to a situation many many decades ago with my grandfather's ex-wife claiming a kid was his (it wasn't.) which happened early in their marriage. My grandmother is still bitter about it, and may have this mentality of "He did me wrong and everyone takes up for him, so he can starve to death for all I care."

I can't be here all the time so I don't always know what goes on until someone else tells me. Family brought over food for them over the weekend which my granny helped herself to. Yesterday when I asked, she told me he had eaten, also told my aunt that I fixed him a plate...I didn't. My grandfather confirmed what I already knew, but didn't want to eat when I offered to make a plate. Granny will try to spin it by mentioning how much he sleeps and making it seem like he's just not eating. She also tries to act forgetful about when he's eaten and quickly plays victim about how tired she is then starts saying she doesn't feel well, which she really started hamming up more starting on his 90th bday when everyone would ask how she was.

So now we have to make sure he eats since she doesn't. Just this afternoon my mom called the house to check on them and my granny played victim again. So she asked if I could bring my grandfather something, so I did. Didn't get my granny anything since she told us she's been snacking all day and "He never snacked like I do." I just said, that doesn't mean he shouldn't eat and went on about my business. I tried to do Meals on Wheels for them, but wouldn't you know the people told me that they don't deliver in our area?? We're in a suburb in a large metropolitan city, ridiculous. So I've been trying to find other alternatives. We buy them microwave meals as well, but my grandfather can be picky.

My sanity levels are better than they were. I'm sure that's due to me doing a huge purging of things in my room and creating a more tidy, organized and zen space. I take time to meditate, pray, etc. I also highly recommend a Himalayan salt lamp around the home or in your personal space if you don't have. I got one and have been sleeping better ever since.
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