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Seems like the issue is that your mom is lonely and needs somebody with her when she is awake. If you can make it work, give her a small bedroom and take back the den. Give each person a time slot daily to "entertain grandma" while she is awake. Also consider that it might be worth spending money so grandma can enter an adult day program (Monday - Friday days) and/or hiring an aide to take her for walks (in a wheelchair is need be) and keep her entertained for portion of a day(s) weekly.
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My mother lived with us for 3 months, she parked herself in the living room. I would see her every time heading upstairs and she would wear headphones watching her foreign soap operas. I would have to hide in my car or basement to get privacy in my own home. My blood pressure was sky high, my marriage was falling to pieces and my daughter resented her. The only time things were good was when she stayed in her room and she was angry at me. If she stayed in her room from the beginning none of this hostility would have happened. I got my mother out of my house because she loves money more than anything. I told here if things continue the same after a year, we would need to revisit her finances and living arrangements. She left in a few days.
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rovana Jan 2022
I'm confused: Your mom comes into your home because it is considered preferable to a facility - but --at least in an AL a resident gets to leave their room. So what is so great about keeping an elder in a home with "family"??
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I can relate 100%. I have had to feed her on her room instead of with our family . She couldn’t handle our conversations and would get anxiety over our discussions . Then harass me all day about all the things she heard at the table . These were just everyday work situations we talked about . She is totally illogical and dementia only adds to it , my mom was illogical since birth . Stubborn and nasty . Good luck
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Lulu, your mom is having a tantrum when you are laughed at and told you are mean and ridiculous. Just a different kind of behavior then we usually associate with a tantrum. The end result is the same, you don't enforce your desires and she gets her way.

You said you don't want to upset her so you pick your battles. Doesn't sound like you have put your foot down for any of her behaviors.

Learning how to not get caught up in the dementia loop means you aren't answering the same question 50xs. You grunt, shake your head, say we just covered that or something else. You don't engage with it. You don't give it any head space to frustrate you.

I'm not trying to sound rude but, your responses seem to shoot every suggestion down. This might be why your family is avoiding the situation because you are not hearing anything. It's like you can't look at the big picture and you are stuck on the kitchen table issue but, not willing to make any changes. That is frustrating for people. Kind of a quit complaining about something you refuse to do anything about situation.

Move her bed into the small room and take your den back. It's fine that her clothes aren't kept where she sleeps. Giving her the best common space and she doesn't ever use it is a waste for your family. Keep the table in there and encourage your kids to use that table, once it's the family space again.

You all are miserable with the situation as it is, you need to do something different, because 15 months being miserable is a lifetime. Your mom isn't the most important person in the house, you all matter.
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My mom 'lived' at her kitchen table as she declined, over a period of almost 11 years after my dad died, to set a scene here for you. From reading this thread I see your mom Will in fact be in a good AL eventually; meanwhile, it is obvious you and your family simply need to 'redesign' the 'granny unit' so that the prime real estate is family space again. I agree to make the small living room your mom's bedroom, then find a senior sitter to spend time with her daily so you and your family get time to themselves. Regressing elders seem like little kids, and puppies in a way (!), in that they gravitate to the 'action'...like mom wanting to be in the kitchen when you are preparing meals: get her a distraction, the elder sitter, to do puzzles or whatever with her. And please be careful if mom is still smoking so that as her mind declines there's no fire hazard. The annoying repetitiveness comes with the territory of dementia; she literally has nothing else to say but is still trying to connect. Simplify the situation while the new house evolves; mom is there for the time being but your family's life does not have to revolve around her. Make her the 'satellite' so that no one feels displaced in their own home. All the best.
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PeggySue2020 Jan 2022
I don't think an aide is going to help in OP's situation. Her mother is already begging for attention, popularity, from a "peer group" that increasingly wants nothing to do with her and is angry at OP.

OP meanwhile feels she can't leave her mom alone for one hour at an exercise class. So she'll be between this aide and mom trying to get them to be "friends" in mom's eyes. If she succeeds, what happens to Special Friend when it's more than doing puzzles.

OP should realize that the whole family besides her and mom have moved away from whatever inheritance carrot is being dangled here. The whole family already sounds like they're increasingly going to leave because there's no care plan. She can say she tries the aide to help with companionship, but that has to be followed by saying that when she can no longer toilet, or shower, or smoke appropriately outside, that's the day she goes into a home.

Which is coming. So why delay things? The Mom has money and seems like a natural extrovert. Why NOT give her a peer group of people?
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Lulu, when you talk about your new house you are still giving you and your mother an out by saying she might refuse to leave then. Of course she is going to refuse if she gets "settled" in your new home. Just like she refuses to go to senior classes because she doesn't "like" them. The only time you can get her to go is when you personally go with her. For an hour.

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You say your mom still recognizes all your family. She asks all these questions, talks about the weather and parks her stuff so that they'll talk to her, which they are increasingly not. From all you've said, your family feels mostly seething resignation.

She needs a peer group where she can do her puzzles around people who might be genuinely interested enough to have a conversation with her. People to whom every weather report is new news.
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Yes, it’s definitely Fair to require her to use Her table 10 feet from your kitchen to do her puzzles and work searching and have the towel set up. Relocate her there as many times as it takes to establish this is what is required. Have her tv on weather channel and and or a radio on a classical station where they play soothing music and occasionally announce the time or weather or traffic. Have her help by folding clothes on her table or sorting laundry or chopping veggies, if safe, or sitting outside with a pet, tossing a ball to the dog, if safe. Or organizing a drawer. Painting your or her or grandkids nails, making a grocery list for you. Give her things to do that will help you.
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76 is young to some people these days.
To me it seems you really do not have the space. She needs personal space, but not on your kitchen table. If there is no room in the house, try the senior center, the library, even a table of shed in the back yard. Give her functions and routine everyday besides word puzzles.
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I don't have any answers for you, but I know how you feel. My 95 year old MIL recently moved in with us. She has her own room, with a TV and where my office used to be, but she is in the living room (centrally parked) all day until bedtime. She also naps on the couch instead of in her room, which honestly kind of annoys me. Any move we make or any sound, she watches us. If we go outside to our car to retrieve something, we get questioned when we come back in - "where did you go?" Very annoying.

Now I'm noticing that my husband is "working" outside more and I'm staying in our bedroom more reading or whatever. Then she gets mad at us (him) for ignoring her. If she had her way, she'd have us sitting with her all day drinking tea and watching TV. She lived alone before she came to live with us, so I'm not sure why she seems to want to spend every minute with us now.
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January 9th question.
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Many people cannot entertain themselves. When I worked in nursing homes, residents would sit outside the nurses' desk. Some didn't interfere, just wanted to watch people come and go. Others are desperate for human interaction. This is a big problem with asking them into your home. They want to be with people; they don't want a nice room, or TV, etc. really. They want company. They may not be good company, and even if they were, most visitors will drive you crazy after a while. That is not true of all older people, but true of some. It is not working and will continue to not work! If she contributed financially to the arrangement, it will really be a mess. You are more likely to change how you feel than she is, she has been herself for much longer than you
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There is no way you can reason with her, because she has a problem comprehending and communicating. Her judgement is off. Whatever she does is beyond her control and awareness. Telling her to go to her room for specific hours of the day? She has no concept of time, probably she can't distinguish day from night. The thing you should be concerned the most, it is that her condition will get progressively worse with time. The only solution is to place her in a group-care facility for people with dementia.
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I'm sorry you're going through this. My introvert self is getting second-hand anxiety at the thought. I've had a clingy roommate before, and I never wanted to come home during that time either. I couldn't imagine if the clingy housemate was also a dependent elder.
I'm thankful that at least my grandma-in-law isn't clingy, and content to zone out in front of the TV most of the time.
I don't have much in the way of advice. Just wanted to assure you that your feelings are valid, and it's absolutely not wrong to want your own space.
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Would it be dementia and shadowing?
There is professional approach to at least minimize it.
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