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Sorry to hear about this. Sounds like you have no choice but to moveout. Check your rights to break a lease where the landlord fails to provide a safety and health environmnent. since living next to a hoarder presents a safety issue (fire hazard) and a health issu (rats, mice, roaches)
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Rose21 Dec 2020
Yes, it definitely is a health and safety issue.
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If you don’t own the residence and the landlord can’t protect you from the neighbors then I would move. Start to document all your issues and calls to the police in case you need to break your lease.
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Rose21 Dec 2020
I've done all this, thank you Mepowers :)
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Keep calling the Police to report the threats.

Call the Police every night they're making excessive noise that the Police will be able to hear too.

Take the Neighbor to Court along with all the Police Reports and written complaints from other neighbors.

Have the other neighbors report the threats to the police.

Complain to their Landlord.

If you can't do the above or wait for them to move, then all that is left is for you to move.
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my2cents Nov 2020
Document noise and interactions with video, too. Take video to police and ask who can intervene.
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I think you answered your own question. In your heart you know you should move. Go find a new house to turn into a home and love.
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Definitely move...regardless of you loving the home you've created, how can you comfortably live without a feeling of safety and community? Start looking for a new home and once you move you will wonder why you didn't do it months ago. Good luck.
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You've tried everything that anyone could try.

Even if moving is your last resort - you may be there.
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Have you complained personally to City Hall where you live? Your neighbor is posing a threat to the health and safety to you and your other neighbors because of the hoarding and threatening. When she is yelling obscenities and threats at you call 911. The other neighbors need to do the same thing. When you smell pot from next door because the loser son is blazing one, call the police then too. Do not let people like this force you to move out of your house.
Is it possible at your place for you to fence in your property with wood stockade or wall fencing? If it is then she will not only be unable to get on your property but will not be able to even see you coming and going. Talk to your other neighbors. If the lot of you get together and complain to the town you live in, they will take action. Maybe not immediately because of coronavirus but that excuse can only be used for so long. You might also do well to invest in a security system for your home with a few cameras around your property too. If one of them comes by and vandalizes your vehicles then it will be on the security footage and that can be shown to the cops and they will take action.
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Rose21 Dec 2020
I've told my local MP, the police, the landlord, the dementia charities, and social services. Whenever she or her family are abusive,  I call the police, and hold the phone up in order for them to hear. I've reported the cannabis use. I've put fences up in both front and back gardens. I have installed CCTV but that doesn't cover the car park.  The police are now classing her behaviour as harassment, so I am waiting to see what the Landlord does about it, as it is a breach of tenancy.  However, since the courts are not making people homeless, I can only hope that they may move her, but it's looking more like they'll try and move me instead.  She is also refusing repairs to her property. The police have already heard the abuse from the family as I recorded it, but they need two incidents per person for it to be harassment.
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If it isn't much of an issue for you to move, then why not? Or a better question is, why stay in a place that you aren't satisfied with? Would you stay in a job that you hated? Chances are if a better job was available you would not hesitate to take it and you would be a fool not to. Same thing with this. Look around. You may find a place that you like much better than where you are living and you will be away from your problem neighbor.

My friend had issues with her landlord.. She tried very hard to peacefully resolve the issue without any luck. She started looking around. The place she really liked was recently rented. She wasn't familiar with the neighborhood and made a wrong turn and she just so happened to find an even better place. Not only was the rent affordable but it had just been renovated! So go for it. It can't hurt to at least look to see what else is available to you.

Best wishes to you.
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jacobsonbob Nov 2020
If the current complex in which the OP is living is large enough, it's possible there is another unit nearby but not adjacent to the annoying neighbors. Perhaps a short-distance move is a possibility.
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Do what you feel is right in your heart, but pray about it and ask God to help you make the right decision
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Rose21 Dec 2020
I do pray, I feel like I'm forever on my knees making sure my heart is right with it all.  Thank you Browneyes.
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Assuming you’re renting as it sounds like, there’s zero peace there, and no help is coming, you’ve done all you can to make it better, time to move. It’ll be well worth the peace you gain. Think how much better you’ll feel with this behind you
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Rose21 Dec 2020
I hope so, thank you
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This is one of those situations where you can’t control your neighbors. Is there any guarantee if you move , you won’t have a problem with a neighbor in the new place? For example, I have a problem with a lady across the street who keeps feeding the pigeons. So they line up on my roof waiting to be fed. I rang her bell twice..& told her nicely to please not feed the pigeons because they are destroying my property! All of a sudden, she don’t know English! So I’ve been going over to spray the bird seed. I will need a new roof because of this!!!!! So, I feel for you! I betcha this neighbor of yours is going to get on another neighbor’s nerves, too. Just wait & see. Don’t move until you are ready & found the place you really want to live & love it! Good luck & hugs 🤗
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GAinPA Oct 2020
Spray the bird seed?
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Rose, I apologize for asking this w/o checking back into your earlier message, but this is quicker.   Are you in an apartment, with this undesirable person next to you?  Or are you leasing a house?   I assume this is not a house that you're buying.

If you're leasing, I would definitely consider moving, as it appears as though you've taken the necessary legal action but that hasn't helped.  And given the uptick in viral cases, I don't think that law enforcement and other authorities are going to have extra time to deal with a noncompliant, troublemaking family.

But don't let the undesirables know you're leaving.    If you can afford it, hire  a moving company and get everything accomplished at once, and get out of there for good.

I hope you can find safety in this environment until you can escape from it.  Best, and safe wishes to you.
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Rose21 Dec 2020
I'm in a bungalow, and yes if this ends in me having to move, then if I can, I will be moving my things out without them knowing, they sleep most of the day so it shouldn't be too difficult.  Thank you for your answer.
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So sorry that you are dealing with this situation.

I agree with posters that suggested moving. It may not be worth the hassle of trying to solve this issue.

I think you will be glad that you moved and wonder what took you so long to move away.

Best wishes to you.
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Rose21 Dec 2020
I hope that hindsight is a great thing, but there's always the dread when you are renting of a worse neighbour.  But when your sleep is being affected, then so is your functioning, and I can't see this changing any time soon, as you said I don't want to waste time here when I could be having a better future elsewhere.
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The landlord can do something. He can evict them. He does not have to renew their lease. He writes a letter that there lease ends such and such a date and he will not be renewing it. If they are month to month, even better. He can give them 30day notice and if they don't leave he can go to court to evict them. If the judge goes along with it the police can escort them off the property. If it the cost of eviction he doesn't want to deal with, then tell him u will split the cost.
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Marcia732 Nov 2020
She doesn't say if the hoarder family are renters or not. The family may own their property while Rose21 rents hers.

In addition, it's a tough time to try to evict someone.
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I would move. The son is likely to stay even if the elderly woman qualifies for a "self-limiting" problem. This won't be a good place to live forthwith. If you have a lease it is easily broken by the landlords inability to make the place habitable. You can claim allergy to all the pot smoke seeping through. I take it this is either an apartment or it is a condo with adjoining walls; in either case it is made not habitable by your neighbors.
Not everything can be fixed. And bad neighbors almost NEVER can be fixed. At worst these situations can end up being a bad true crime episode on channel 179. Sorry, but looks like this problem will be ongoing. I would speak first with your landlord and say that it is down now to your needing to move due to this. That will be his clue that he must pull out ALL THE STOPS in an attempt to take care of this. But as well all know, the law often protects those we should be protected FROM (and of course it can go the other way as well.)
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Rose21 Dec 2020
My Landlord is not classing the son as a tenant, but a lodger so he has no rights to the property if anything was to happen to his mother. Thank you for your response.
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Dear "Rose21,"

Can you afford to move? If you can, then I would. The situation is not going to get better as you can already attest to. The landlord only has so much power and the excessive stress is not good for your health.

I know what it's like to live with terrible neighbors that have no inclination of changing. We did it for 17 years and it ruined us in more ways than one. Severe anxiety, inability to sleep properly and more. Everything we did was a total waste. We loved our house at first too and we also, did our due diligence by checking out the neighborhood on weekdays, weekends, nights and mornings. We even walked around - nothing, until after we moved in. I had no idea we would have two sets of original neighbors that kept us under nearly 24 hour surveillance among one of them who did obsessive leaf blowing for 4 hours nearly everyday. Towards the last two years of living there, we were constantly on the run and leaving our house, our dog was always alone at that point and we dreaded returning. We had to take on two mortgages to even buy the house (it was our first house as a married couple). Believe me I was so angry that this happened to us.

We've been renting a house for nearly three years and it has been so peaceful and we have our privacy back. So that being said, reread the last part of your last sentence "...but if you are afraid, exhausted and cannot live in it for purpose then what's the point?"

Now, you should have your answer - I wish you the best in making your decision!
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Rose21 Dec 2020
Yes, I'm at that point now where I dread returning home after being out for the day.  I dread the nights because I know they don't sleep, and I'm spending no time in the gardens because of their abusive behaviour.  I'm still not leaving my car in the neighbourhood for fear it will be vandalised, my life is being controlled by them. Thank you for your reply
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