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I find it very strange that your husband stands by and witnesses you being abused and accepts that you cannot do even very simple normal-life things, in your own home. Your mother in law has dementia and that may explain at least some of her behavior. What explains his?
You cannot live like this, where you can’t even enjoy a meal or a movie or even a kiss with your spouse without abuse. She has to go into whichever type of facility is appropriate for her. She cannot be there with you any longer. Once that’s squared away, you can assess whether your marriage is salvageable.
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I think your graciousness, loving heart, spirit of cooperation and attentive care towards your difficult MIL is beyond commendable. You and your husband didn’t know how it was going to go. The fact that she has Alzheimer’s doesn’t make your marriage any less important. You must put your marriage first. It sure sounds to me that MIL is ready for a nursing home. You tried it and if one spouse is unhappy with the set-up...that’s a deal breaker.
My husband cares for his extremely difficult mother with dementia one 24 hr. period in a month, and we keep her for several hours every Sunday. She has a full time care giver hired by the family and this dear woman gets 1 day/night off per week. The adult siblings take their turn with their 24 shift.
My MIL was rarely kind to me over the last 40 yrs. I’ve known her. She was all about her 2 daughters and I was the “enemy” and rarely included. Now, my SIL’s expect me to help out. My loving husband has told me, “No, this isn’t your responsibility...especially in light of her mean spirited behavior toward you over the years.”
I wouldn’t think twice of placing her in a nursing home. She had her chance to live her life the way she wanted. Just because someone has dementia, doesn’t mean there’s a universal rule that it should ruin the adult children’s lives.
If your husband’s disagrees, and he puts his mother above you...then this issue is a marriage issue that needs to be addressed.
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Not trying to be rude here, but you need marriage counseling whether your MIL moves into a home or not. I've said it often here on this site "people treat you the way you allow them to treat you." Prayers for all of you. Hang in there, if you want to. You are not an emotional punching bag.
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You have received a lot of very good advice from the caring people here. My suggestion is not easy but fairly simple. Tell your husband that your mother is moving to a memory care unit by such and such a date or one of you is moving out. Consult an attorney and make certain that you cannot be charged with abandonment if it is you that leaves.
While MIL is elsewhere make the trips to find her placement, maybe two options and let your husband choose between the two options you present. Or better yet invite your husband to join you, if he doesn’t go along then make the decision yourself. Be certain to ask what evaluations and documentation each facility requires for placement.
I’m sorry to say this but your husband is the problem not your MIL. As long as you continue to take care of his mother he will let you, he is not wanting to make things change for your well being or that of your marriage. He has made his choice and you will have to make yours.
I’ll assume you will get her moved out, then you and your husband will need to get some counseling to repair your marriage. He has chosen his mother, it is painful and you deserve so much better. Be strong. Be brave. You can take charge of your life.
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well until your hubby has to deal with everything 24/7 he has not much to say when you tell him you are done being the slave.  personally it sounds like she should have been moved into a NH the 10 months ago and you all can actually be a family and visit instead of regretting things and no longer feel like a family but a "caregiver and/or slave" however you want to label it.  Why should you be the only one going for counseling, it sounds like he needs a wake up call and he go also with you when discussing this matter.  If he wanted someone to come take care of her, then that should have been done before moving her in with you, the caregiver could have lived with your mom and they can be done in shifts.  And IF she has severe dementia, then the shifting between people off and on during the week with other family members is NOT a good idea......it cause them more confustion/anger issues.  Sounds like hubby feels guilty for not seeing her as much as he should have so now trying to make amends.......won't work now.........Sure wishing you luck with this matter.
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Your husband is in denial. She is starting to choke on her food which means the deterioration of her brain is starting to affect vital bodily functions. She requires professional care, care that, with the best will in the world, neither you nor your husband are equipped to give her. Even if her temperament was sweet and even.
Does she see a doctor? She/he should be able to make informed recommendations.
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Under no circumstances should you be expected to live with constant abuse.   If your husband will not look for options, you need to go ahead and do it yourself.  A support would be a good idea just for your  sanity, as well as to validate your feelings.  If you can afford it, find a small place to get away to and tell your husband he needs to arrange for a caretaker to come in during that time.  You could work from that location and get some peace of mind.  Once you have done all these things, your husband can decide if he wants things to stay that way, or if he wants to find an option for his mother's care and wants you back in the house full time.  A husband who does not care about his wife's emotional well-being, and puts his mother before her, needs to learn to live without her.
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Your husband is correct about only one thing: It's the disease.

And a person with this disease cannot be reasoned with, cannot be expected to take others' feelings into consideration, cannot be expected to remember what was said 5 minutes ago. A person with this disease can become verbally abusive, physically abusive, and exhaust everyone around them with their care needs.

But you and your husband don't have the disease. You have the responsibility of keeping yourselves healthy and sane while providing your MIL with the level of support she requires. This does not mean you are the ones who have to directly provide that care. And, from what you posted, she requires a level of care that is way beyond the scope of what you, your husband or extended can emotionally and physically provide.

It's time to step back and disengage from the emotional aspect for a moment so you can make some decisions. Regardless of where she is, your MIL requires full-time care from someone other than you. Whatever that looks like, from moving her to your SIL's or her grand-daughter's, or hiring 24/7 in-home care that is separate in all ways from what you and your husband do in your own lives (like meals, sitting together, etc.), or moving her to a memory care facility.

Who has your MIL's powers of attorney? If no one has established this, it's time to do so. And it's time to take charge of your lives, even if your husband isn't with you on this.
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I went through almost the exact thing! My husband is an only child and evidently she made his life h*ll when he was growing up. She is a widow and wAs running through her money like crazy buying stuff at auctions and yard sales that was worthless junk but she thought it was expensive antiques! She fell and broke her hip and was in the nursing home for rehab to get her back to walking. She was 87 at the time and I was 57. I had a scheduled right hip replacement because I had rheumatoid arthritis and had been a nurse for over 30 years and basically had worn my hip out. The nursing home called and said she was to be discharged because her insurance wouldn't pay for long term care. So at 13 days after I had a complete hip replacement , she came to our house and was unable to get out of bed (according to her) so here I was having to clean her and bath her and carry her food to her and me a patient myself. Family would visit but no one offered to help. She got to telling some awful lies about me to make everyone feel sorry for her. She told my husband, her son, that all I wanted to do was lay in the bed making it look like I wasn't taking care of her, and he was in the middle of it. But he finally stood up for me and asked her just who was cooking three meals a day plus snacks for her and she said Bernice is (me), he asked her who bathed her everyday, and she said Bernice. He asked her when she messed on herself or wet the bed who changed her bed and she said Bernice. He kept on naming all the things I did for her and she said Bernice was doing it. In the process, he got mad at himself thinking how I was getting done plus not getting to take care of myself and he told her he was giving her 24 hours to get out of that bed and start taking care of herself or he was going to sell her house and giving it to a nursing home to care for her till she died. Well she started crying and he said she should be ashamed of how she had done me plus he apologized to me for leaving her for me to take care of by myself. She went home and She is still living by herself except a great grandson is staying with her while he is in college. Sometimes you have to set limits. Mothers in law have 2 types; those who love their dil and those who hate and are jealous of their dil. Never ever let a mil get between you and your spouse. If they cannot abide by the boundaries you and your spouse set, then it's time to send them home with a live in helper paid for by them, or if they cannot afford to pay for help, then a nursing home may be the only choice.
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I’m so sorry this situation turned out to be a nightmare. Your husband hasn’t a clue what this is doing to you. For one thing he’s the son and he’s not home all day. You are being told by him to take her abuse. NO! You have every right to want your life the way it was. This was not what you signed up for. Yes she has a brain disease which has affected her personality but I bet before the disease she was no sweet thing. For the sake of your marriage she needs to be placed in a NH. How dare your hubby say YOU need a support group. You both could benefit from an objective therapist to work out the feelings and issues here. No one can MAKE you feel guilty...only you can take on that role. Guilt implies you did something wrong and you haven’t. You are expressing feelings. So unless you want a contentious and unhappy marriage ruled and manipulated by his mother, I advise you to move her out.
and I don’t think your hubby has a clue what 24/7 in home care costs which is much more than memory care where there are trained caregivers. She could live many more years I hope you know
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I’m so sorry this situation turned out to be a nightmare. Your husband hasn’t a clue what this is doing to you. For one thing he’s the son and he’s not home all day. You are being told by him to take her abuse. NO! You have every right to want your life the way it was. This was not what you signed up for. Yes she has a brain disease which has affected her personality but I bet before the disease she was no sweet thing. For the sake of your marriage she needs to be placed in a NH. How dare your hubby say YOU need a support group. You both could benefit from an objective therapist to work out the feelings and issues here. No one can MAKE you feel guilty...only you can take on that role. Guilt implies you did something wrong and you haven’t. You are expressing feelings. So unless you want a contentious and unhappy marriage ruled and manipulated by his mother, I advise you to move her out.
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I’d simply tell him, mom has to leave by whatever date 7 days from now or whatever, or I’m leaving. Then do it. You don’t need this and he and his mother aren’t taking you seriously. 

talk to a lawyer too.
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First, no one can force you to feel guilty. You are responsible for your feelings. You shouldn’t feel guilty for wanting this situation to change, but if you do, you need professional help so that the situation can change. Clearly, your MIL belongs in a memory care facility. This is only going to get worse, much worse. You and your husband need to see a therapist if you can’t make the decision to place her. It is unfair of him to put you in this position.
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I had a similar situation with my ML. When I was DONE. I gave all responsibilities back to my husband. It was his mother. I tried to be supportive however her behaviors toward me made it impossible, I became very resentful of them both. I also worked from home, was raising my kids and took care of everything else. I was experiencing health problems from all the stress. I created boundaries to save myself and gave the caregiving back to him. Guess what? She went to nursing home! When they have to do everything you were doing, they get to see it in a new light. Take care of yourself sweetheart. That is where the gold is💝🙏🏼
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I recently went through this with my mother. I married in March and she hates my husband. While taking care of her I had a bout with cancer and 2 strokes. Your husband is not seeing what this will eventually do to you or your relationship with him. He loves her but he's making you the bad guy. Trust me if he had to be there all day every single day he would quickly change his mind. When I would tell my children that grandma needed placement they would say mom maybe you just need to be more patient. All it took was for them to visit for the wedding and they changed their tunes. My son watched her during the reception and kept walking up to me complaining about how difficult she was being. My daughter gave up in 2 hours. People will always down play your pain until they have to walk in your shoes. Because of what happened to me as a caregiver I am passionate about self care. Please Please take care of you and your marriage. Keep your head up and don't back down. You are the wife and you should come first. Cancer and strokes are not fun! I was tied to the house and was just miserable. I placed mom in a facility...I am finally free. My husband and I are so much happier. Mom is still mom but I am not stressed anymore. I'm currently on 13 medications and I wasn't on any 5 years ago...read that again. I'm praying your husband will not continue to lay at your feet his responsibility because he doesn't want to make the hard decision to put you first!
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Your mother-in-law IS in a nursing home, yours! It is no longer your home. You are a full-time unpaid, unwilling caregiver being forced to work double shifts by an awful, unreasonable boss who will not listen to you and does not notice when he and "the patient" abuse you. And you have a job you try to get done at home? Can you record a day of her abuse to show your husband? And definitely go away for a week, putting him in charge. He needs to experience everything that you do, hear, see, touch, smell, etc. Play the recording of the abuse when you get back, after he's been wiped out by the amount of work you do. I think he'll be ready to put her in a nursing home then. And maybe buy you a car.
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sassyisie Nov 2020
I agree— after she takes a week to herself her hubby will be more then happy to place his Mom in a nursing home! Having Alzheimer’s does not get better!His Mom might just do well in a nursing home!
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I’m an only child, male, and I did the same thing to my wife that you are doing to yours. Twice. Failed both times. I was naive as you are. I did everything to avoid that last fight with my mother. In the end it was ugly, nasty, and absolutely the right thing.

Your priorities are: 1. Your wife, 2. Your kids, 3. Your mother.

Your wife took no vows regarding your mother so get over any notion she is obligated to care for her. She is not.

Stand up for your wife to your mother, find a nice AL facility near by where you can visit her. Get the staff to give her a tour. Visit the actual room where she will be living. After the tour, back at home, tell her that was her room and it’s a done deal. Let the battle begin, listen to her but don’t weaken. This is for your wife, you can do it. Then move her to the facility and walk away for a week before you visit. When she tells you she won’t stay there, tell her she is free to go anywhere but your house. It’s what’s best for everybody. Just do it.
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jennys Nov 2020
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I think you have done really well - you have gone above and beyond what you should be expected to do for your MIL.
Your husband needs to consider that this is HIS mother, not yours. How would he feel if the situation was reversed? Could he cope with looking after and putting up with the restrictions and the hostility, would he care for your mother during the day; even though she proved to be manipulative and hostile as soon as you appeared?
The hostility is not easy to live with but much easier to dismiss if it is levelled at somebody else. I have seen this several times with mental health issues. The objectivity is maintained until it becomes personal! We know your MIL can't help it but her hostility is real. This often develops into violence as the condition worsens, starting with poking or swatting away a hand but progressing to slapping etc. You have identified she has feelings of aggression, don't wait for the next step.
In my opinion she is in need of a NH in her and your own best interests.
Good luck!
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Isthisrealyreal Nov 2020
I wonder how he would feel if it was her dad and he was treating him like an unwanted, interfering enemy.

Dealing her mom would be easy compared to taking on another man that was decidedly taking over the head of household role in his mind.

I wonder if he would just stand by while his wife was physically abused by her dad and treated like she was his wife? All with 4 sets of young eyes watching that dad is verbally, emotionally and mentally abused by grandpa while mom says, suck it up and take it like a man, further abusing him and if that is not enough they get to see what domestic violence looks like while grandpa slaps mom around.

I think that someone should call child protective services (department of child services) and get these kids on the radar if their dad is going to continue to subject his family to the abuse of his mom. They need to be protected and it seems if he isn't going to do it.

I don't know if I could stay with a male that is more worried about what others will think than protecting his family. I just couldn't respect him or trust him if he didn't do the right thing with this situation.
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Wow. Thats a LOT to just deal with. I know nursing homes are incredibly expensive but there are resources out there if money is the reason he is keeping her in the house. If he just has an aversion to nursing homes, I would do research, schedule a meeting with your husband and a consultant about a NH and see if educating him on the option would help the situation. It's hard because she's his mother, but people live with this disease for YEARS so this may not end for a really long time. I do agree with him however about going to a support group or getting some training for yourself about dealing with a family member who has this disease. It could help you find ways to cope while she is in the home, for however long that is. But if she needs this much care, a specialized care center sounds like it is much safer for everyone.
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Move out for a month's vacation to regain your sanity. Then see what your hubby has to say after he has had to deal with the situation entirely himself. If that doesn't work, get Sheldon Cooper to negotiate a roommate agreement on your behalf.
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And why would you tell your HB about what goes on at those meetings he wants"YOU TO ATTEND", Are you serious?, tell him to go himself since its his mother! that sounds like dumping on you I've ever heard. Honestly, you sound like a really nice person that's getting taken advantage of, and thats really sad, especially when it's his mother not yours. You've been a trooper lasting this long. I give you kudos for it. If you can be strong you need to stand your ground now, threaten to leave, something, and if you leave or threaten it, and he still keeps dumping on you, i cant help but feel like theres not really allot of hope in your relationship. I mean, what happens when you need HIS unconditional love, support and help?, whats he gonna do, have you make sure HIS mother is settled, then help you?
Sorry, its just that when i come across stories like this, it makes me so angry and sad, cuz this isn't how marriage works, and being a caregiver is a really difficult thing to do without sacrificing giving up some things that make you happy and its not fair, and happy couples can get destroyed in the process if theres not a mutual support within that couple.
We all love our parents(their generally the ones mostly needing caregivers), and someone elses parents too, but when it comes to caring for them, its just really hard and making decisions on someone elses behalf, and dealing with their stuff along with your own, it dont seem like your husband has a clue. He should, he needs to, thats his mother he's brushing off on you to deal with, and if she has alz, and he saysyou should take that into consideration, why dont he? When she walks away and can't be found, whose he gonna blame, she falls and breaks something, whoes fault will it be?yours, so unless your prepaired to be buried in guilt, it's time you decide or your husband does and will, is it you or his mother...time waits for no one.
Pray about it, God will not take you where He cannot sustain you.
Ill keep you in my prayers, God Bless You
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MargaretMcKen Nov 2020
OP decided to use us as her 'support group' and share the posts with DH. He thought she would be told how to suck it up. It seems he hasn't taken much notice of the responses. 'God MAY not take you where He cannot sustain you', but remember that He took Jesus to the cross.
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You need to show this post to your husband. Then find a place to stay for a week and move out. Maybe then your husband and his family will realize what a no-win situation you are in. And he should also attend the support group sessions if you choose to go, hearing other people’s stories might just open his eyes to what is going on in his own home.
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WITL I hope the many messages here let both you and your husband take some time to absorb, then discuss options. Should he still remain implacable I would consider separation for a while, until he realizes he is in charge, and caring for his Mom. Your kids can spend time with each of you; suspect they will enjoy "your place" more, even if it is a furnished studio. Sometimes this has to happen in order for the other to understand clearly. And again, if he chooses his mother over his family, then he may lose his family. I sure do wish you the very best of luck, and I sure do hope you will update us. I won't be one to forget this story, and the outpouring of support heading your way.
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This situation is bad for all 3 of you, especially your poor demented MIL. 2 cents worth mentioned “if there is a resemblance, but it's very possible your MIL's brain is somewhere in the past and your husband looks like a younger version of husband at a time she remembers”. EXACTLY! She probably thinks there is hankypanky between “her husband” (her son, your husband) and “another woman” (you, her son’s wife). Being cheated on, is devastating and painful. In her demented mind this may be what’s going on. Her heart is being broken every time she sees you two together. It’s best to have her in a care facility. She might make some friends that are around her age. She might not be so resentful and mean when you and your husband come to visit because she is not living in the same environment with you two.
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And BTW, you are in an abusive relationship whether you realize it or not. Google "signs you are in an abusive relationship" and you will probably see your husband there. For one thing, he is gaslighting you - denying your feelings and your reality.
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Well, your husband sounds like a bully. If he chooses her over you, it's time for you to demand he treat you with love and respect, and that means he will not tolerate anyone else treating you badly.
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Do not walk, RUN TO THE NURSING HOME AND SIGN THE PAPERWORK!!!!!!!!

I have had MY OWN MOTHER with me since 6/2018 and I am going nuts!!!!!!
No ALZ yet, but the dementia is getting worse!!!!!!

It is 24/7 and I have ZERO help.......

Mine does absolutely nothing!!!!!!!!
Now, she won’t even get dressed!!!!!!
Just pushes her Walker from bedroom to sunroom and back!
WANT MY LIFE BACK!!!!!
I am retired and this is DEFINITELY NOT, how I want to live my life!!!!!!
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I’m really upset to read your post from 7 hours ago, where you still say “at this point, I am willing to lose everything except my kids”. Hasn’t your husband had any change of heart at all after reading all the comments, which all say more or less the same thing? Is he really ‘wedded’ to his mother, not just MIL thinking he is her late husband? MIL is a PIA, but at least she has the ‘excuse’ of dementia. He has no excuse at all. What’s he going to do if she gets into bed with him - “act like you don't hear it”?

If he refuses to change, your next step is to move out temporarily, and leave him to cope (which is pretty much what he is doing to you are present). It may be the only way to get him to see the real situation. If he doesn’t like you taking it down to the wire, you can always tell him to ‘get over it’. Is there anywhere you can go with the kids? Can SIL help for a week or so if she understand what’s going on? Just remember that if you do move out either temporarily or permanently, he WILL have to change either his life or MIL’s life.
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Let the family and your hubby hire someone to care for her minimum 8 hrs a day and you do your work. Let caregiver handle whatever it is she needs and do a little housekeeping as time allows. Let the whole family know you've been willing to help with this, but it is more than you can do while holding down a work from home job. It sounds like you've at least been getting some help (which is more than some of us get), so they may be on board to hire help. Your hubby is right, you do need more help to keep this going.

Not sure if there is a resemblance, but it's very possible your MIL's brain is somewhere in the past and your husband looks like a younger version of husband at a time she remembers. Some dementia patients, for whatever reason, seem to think other women/men are after their spouse. They can tell some pretty far fetched stories about what they saw spouse and 'other woman' doing right before their eyes. If her mind sometimes thinks it's hubby, she may think you're trying to get her man. She might also remember your husband with a very early girlfriend and thinks you're trying to come in between them.
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WilliMartin Nov 2020
It happens when I’m about 1/2 into my commentary when I see that you already posted what I was thinking. 😆 so I had to quote you in 2 of my posts. Love your input.
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And always dangerous; we moved a young married couple in last year - you can probably guess how that went.... They're gone and I have my home back, tho DH still thinks I was the bad guy. Please, husband of WITL, show your wife you love her, and DON'T blame her; many of us would have gotten your mom into a facility when this first began!
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