Hello community. I believe you guys are mostly in the USA so I apologise if the time of night is bad. I’m just going to spit it out, I can’t have my Dad live with me anymore. I am 33 married with a child, currently 8.5 months pregnant with our second child. Our house is large and Dad moved in 3 years ago. This maybe be a low number of years but the 24-7 of it all is driving me insane. He’s 86 and a wonderful man, no doubt there, but the constant idiosyncrasies, his weird habits, the noises, lack of social graves and just blatant absence of manners is driving me mad. My marriage is strong but tensions are rising all the time and with two young children I see myself having some kind of breakdown. I can’t do it. He can self fund accommodation but he doesn’t want to leave our house. Everything’s done for him here. Why would he want to? My husband is a patient kind hearted man, but sex drive, romance and any spontaniaty have left the building. We are still a young-ish family and want our space. Please don’t condemn me for this post I have no siblings to help and my mother passed away 15 years ago. Any advice or even just someone say that they know what I’m talking about?!? Arrgghhhhhh thank you and lots of love. P.S, I don’t hatemy Dad I just can’t live with him anymore !!!!
Save yourself, your marriage and your family. You, your husband and your children must come first. Time for your father to live out the remainder of his life in an environment of his peers, in a level of care that is appropriate for his needs (professionals will assist you in determining this). I wish you all the best.
The part I don’t understand is the people who all are supporting you but turned on the man who wanted his wife’s parent out. Granted, the wife wanted to keep her parent but the husband did not. I guess the support depends on the writer.....
He's in a different time of his life than you are.
Hopefully, he'll understand. If he doesn't, well, that's life. Tell him you love him yet this is how it's gotta be.
Be reassuring that a good fit will be found for him (he'll adjust). Then visit him and invite him over for Sunday dinners or something.
It's rough caring for elders. They are children that can and do say NO (!) Tough love, sister!
All the best!
Might I suggest Beginning to make arrangements for Bad Dad to Go into a Nursing facility, Such as a Rest Home. make sure his Affairs are in Order, Or Medicaid will Take every single Dime of his Money, honey. Look into this and make sure you have a Living Trust that Dad has Put you in or Check into this NOW.
You need time in your Own at Home Life of Strife, It seems You are Following up right behind him and will Get Old and Gray just Caring for him and with Dad...He just gets more Difficult as he Gets Older and Bolder...
I researched independent living facilities for seniors at "A Place for Mom". They were so helpful, and I was able to narrow down places that would do a lot for her like cook meals, provide maid service, and plan activities. Then I took her to those places and asked her to choose one. It sounds like your father has financial resources, so I suggest you do this and then ask him to pick one place where he will be comfortable. The only option should not be living with you. My Mom was angry with me, but she is now quite happy and I still visit her all the time...my favorite thing is that many times she asks me not to visit because she's busy with her friends and activities. Our relationship has also improved because we are less pressured. My mother has Alzheimer's, is legally blind due to macular degeneration, and has congestive heart failure, so dealing with those things is tough enough for her and for me without adding other issues into the mix. It must be frustrating for your dad as well because his life is more limited, so places like senior living residences will offer him opportunities to enjoy his life. The upside is that you will find that you can enjoy being with him again, and for the times you can't there's your car and the road back to your own house.
but it will save your relationship with him and your family.
By the way side note here....You are a mom to a toddler, almost 9 months pregnant..you are exhausted even without your dad living with you, I think spontaneity and romance are on the back burner for a little while anyway ;)
A few other options that might push your dad to the Independent or Assisted Living thinking tell him that you are exhausted and you are going to need more help and this is a list of chores that he can do:
His laundry, as well as all the towels, bedding (stuff that can't be ruined)
Vacuuming,
Dishes after each meal. Including pots, pans and putting all away.
And any other tasks that you think he would do.
Once he understands that being part of a family means doing chores...(does this sound like something that he may have told you when you were a kid?)
If he has the money to afford Independent or Assisted Living then maybe he should pay "rent" and you can use the rent money to pay for help that will come in and help clean, do some laundry and in general take some work off your shoulders. I would think a "fair" rent would be 1/3 of your expenses for the monthly upkeep of the house. That might even give you a bit to "bank" for the future. Call it the kids college fund.
Oh...and no you are not the "worst daughter on the face of the earth"!
I like it!!!
I used ‘A Place For Mom’ and they were very helpful and helped me determine what level of care my mother might need and what facilities to visit.
I did learn that I needed to go with my mother for Dr.s appts., and in advance let the Dr. know she had Dementia, so they couldn’t always believe what she might tell them.
May God give you guidance and comfort as you make difficult, but necessary decisions.
You have to put you and your family first. You want the best for your dad, naturally, but that can't be at the sacrifice of your family or even just your sanity. In the year and a half that my mom has been living with us, one thing I've noticed is that she has become very self centered. It's all about her and her thoughts, feelings, decisions, wants, needs, etc. As her dementia and Alzheimer's has just recently been diagnosed, it seems to already be getting worse. (The difference with her is she wants to do it all, not have it done for her and she simply can't do a lot of it anymore.) Somehow as they are aging their world turns inward.
I don't know if anyone else has mentioned it, but one of the big concerns is your children. I have a 24 year old who had both grandparents around until her middle school years when my dad's Parkinson's disabled him and they couldn't visit anymore. She has the memories of fun, healthy, energetic grandparents, but now she's seeing a grandmother who can be difficult, forgetful, and quite frankly, more of a child than an adult. Then there's the added stress that my daughter suffers with depression, anxiety and PTSD and this is wearing on her. And she's an adult. I can't begin to imagine what affect this could have on a very young child.
So, don't think you are a horrible daughter. It's time to sit down and have a serious talk with Dad. We can hope that he will realize and understand that you have to put your family first. If he doesn't, then you will have to proceed anyway - without his input. Your health and the well-being of your family has to come first.
Tell him you love him but it is too much to take care of him. He has to go. Sure he will get mad, but you are no longer able to do it. You have a new baby on the way.
He needs to be around more people his age and where he can go to activities to keep himself young. Stagnating at your house is no longer an option. You and your husband took on too much at your age. I wouldnt wish that on a younger person your age. At least with older children of aging adults in their 50-60 etc they have grown children. It is too much with a young family. It is also very stressful on the older generation too!
You will go look at places with him. You and your husband will have to put your foot down and say its happening. There needs to be a deadline too. If there is no deadline, every place looked at will be turned down.
You both need to be firm with this. You can move him into a place nearby. Good luck.
Being in another country, it is difficult for us here in the US to recommend a place for your dad. Also, you mentioned some of his idiosyncracies, but not what his general health and cognition are. The things you did list could imply some early dementia, but it could also just be the way your dad is! Knowing where you live would help anyone who is from there make suggestions, as the offerings are different, even here. Knowing what his health/cognition status would also help others recommend the right place for him!
Meanwhile, you need to find a place asap, before the baby arrives. Having a newborn, you need all the rest you can get and to focus on the baby and you. It is hard to care for a baby, even more so when you have another young child to care for, and you certainly don't need to be pandering to your dad!
If you can at the least find a temporary place (short term placement) for him, start with telling him that you will not be able to care for him when the baby comes (you won't even be home to do it, even if you wanted to!) Once he is there, move forward with making it permanent, either in that place, or another if that isn't a long term place. With being so far along, perhaps your husband can assist in finding a place for him (online searching helps, but someone needs to check these places out and you don't have a lot of time left!)
Meanwhile, if he is still capable of caring for himself and doing some chores, assign them to him. As someone else said, he might get tired of that and WANT to move! Eliminate any/all care you currently provide - only ABSOLUTE necessity, such as a bathroom 'accident'. Let him fend for himself - so long as you cater to him, why would he want to go anywhere?
She can help find a good place for her father to live and be a wife and woman to her husband and mother to her children. She loves her father but can be a good daughter from a distance.
He is 86. He could very well live to past 100. Should daughter give up her entire family life with her children and husband, to also caregiver to her father?? Seriously. That is not a solution that she (nor many of us) could handle. It is very selfish to expect her to do so.
Yes Natalie most of the Members on this Site are American, also Canadian and World wide as I am Gaelic and many of my great Neighbours from the UK subscribe Here too.
Good Luch and I wish You great peace and joy. John Joe.
If he has the funds, what about having someone come in from a reputable care agency a few days a week to give you a break? Say three days a week where you leave and they can provide him with companionship, light housekeeping, and any type of medical appointments. I didn’t have my mom move in with me because of this reason but I did get a caregiver for this reason in her own home and carried it over when she moved into her Assisted Living for peace of mind.
You need to care for you and your family and as you go through each day the stress will build and believe me there will be break downs. But now that my mom is gone, I am so happy I got her the extra help when I did instead of just brushing it off because I was frustrated and felt like I was going down a rabbit hole.
It is awesome you’ve come to this site to get some great ideas.