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Matthew 19:2-9

And large crowds followed him, and he healed them there. And Pharisees came up to him and tested him by asking, “Is it lawful to divorce one's wife for any cause?” He answered, “Have you not read that he who created them from the beginning made them male and female, and said, ‘Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’? So they are no longer two but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let not man separate.”

At the age of 60, unless she is absolutely, positively not able to live on her own, and I don't see that here, she needs to get out of your house especially if it is that small. She is 60, which is NOT old. Now if you told me she was in her 80s/90s, that would be a different story.

So, Ground Rule Number One: OUT. NOW. Call Social Services to get help in getting your mother settled into some sort of Section 8 housing if she can't work.

TWO: See above...She's 60, not 91. Sounds to me like she need some psychiatric help. Find it for her.

THREE: She using you and your emotions. It will ruin your marriage, it will ruin your plans for schooling. At some point, you'll end up just like your mother. Do you want that? I didn't think so. So, back to ground rule number one: OUT.

I hate to say this, but she's not going to like this and you're going to have to understand she may not talk to you again or if she does it will be later ... if you want to break this cycle, then you have to stand firm. She is using you for her own benefit, not thinking about you or your new husband but herself.

OUT.
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Sorry, Suzie Q. It is NOT the government's 'fault' that mom can't find a job. Many who can't find jobs need retraining. I'd suggest you read America, Imagine a World Without Her. There are many, many good books out there in which you can read exactly how this economy works (not many know how this works); our history, etc. America doesn't owe anyone anything.

I acquiesce that perhaps she did lose her job (however, the person writing said she didn't get 'fired'. Also, she broke a few bones, whatever . My mom, when she was in her eighties, lost my dad. The first thing she said was, well, I'll just have to go out and get a job bagging groceries at the supermarket. She was in her mid-eighties. Not 60. She's just had open heart surgery, needed a knee replacement, and she was thinking about getting work to supplement what social security was taking away!

It's a MINDSET. This woman is obviously taking advantage of these two young people.

One other thought I had was if they can move to another apartment, they should do so, leaving the couch in the living room with mom on it. Sorry, I don't feel sorry for this mother. She's a leech with obvious psychiatric problems which should be addressed.

It's called depression. I can't even imagine taking up the living room of two young married people! And not even thinking about it as being 'wrong'.

I'd feel like I was intruding. Quite frankly, they shouldn't retreat to the bedroom, they should actually sit on the damned couch and watch whatever they want to watch and do whatever they want to do...anything to make MOM uncomfortable!
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Garden Artist: Actually, the Middle Class is not shrinking. Find articles other than the top Google 'ads' i.e., newspaper articles indicating that they are, and perhaps you'll have a different viewpoint...start here.
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You have plenty of good advice about how to help her help herself and move out. It is necessary for this to happen, or it most likely will ruin your marriage. This is your time and your husbands time. I don't know how you put up with it for so long already.
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"Even though the inflation-adjusted hourly wage hasn't changed much in 50 years, it is unlikely that an average American would trade his wages and benefits in 2013—along with access to the most affordable food, appliances, clothing and cars in history, plus today's cornucopia of modern electronic goods—for the same real wages but with much lower fringe benefits in the 1950s or 1970s, along with those era's higher prices, more limited selection, and inferior products.

Despite assertions by progressives who complain about stagnant wages, inequality and the (always) disappearing middle class, middle-class Americans have more buying power than ever before. They live longer lives and have much greater access to the services and consumer products bought by billionaires."

Mr. Boudreaux is professor of economics at George Mason University and chair for the study of free market capitalism at the Mercatus Center. Mr. Perry is a professor of economics at the University of Michigan-Flint and a resident scholar at the American Enterprise Institute."
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From that WSJ article...

So, there is more mobility and ability to pay for what used to be available to only those in the higher classes. TV's used to be really expensive. Computers? Who ever thought people in my income category would be able to afford one? Supermarkets! My goodness, what a selection of different foods available to us that were never available back in the 50s/60s.

So, 'middle class' can no longer be defined as an income level, but as the ability to buy what only upper class people could afford years ago.

American offers the most opportunity for the most people than any other country on this earth, including the freedom of movement and choice. You can choose to better yourself or your can choose to sit on a couch in your newly married daughter's small apartment destroying her marriage and her hopes for a better future because she is in school trying to better herself.
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Lots of good advice can be gleaned from these posts… there is help out there… sounds like Mom feels entitled and passive-aggressive… will be hard to shift her… I may have missed info but where are her sibs and rest of family her age… can someone else step in to help her reframe her situation… what about church… maybe a bit of eye-opening chat with pastor to see that she is crippling your future… when you sit down with hubby to problem-solve options, put it in writing… exercising the 60 days to move out option.. .put it in bold color on big calendar… gather reinforcements and have family and/or friends intervention… whatever you do, don't let things ride as not only will it kill your marriage and your future plans, it'll kill your spirit!
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