My husband and I just got married less than a year ago. We are talking about buying our first house, starting a family, and all the exciting steps of a newly married couple. His mother is 74, divorced, and is suffering from depression and anxiety that has gotten much worse during COVID-19. She had a horrible fall last year that cause a traumatic leg injury, but thankfully she is still pretty mobile, but is starting to forget some things. He's asked that we look for homes large enough where she could have a MIL suite or her own live-in area. I'm worried our marriage will suffer if I say yes. I'm worried our marriage will suffer if I say no. Any advice???
As to the mother "helping"? You can expect her to help and respect you, but good luck with that It does not always happen
Now possibly he feels that what ever income she has coming in or savings, will help pay for a new home........well that is nothing to what that will cost, in YOU or both, doing the care over time.
Was this something that you had talked about before the marriage?
Time for both of you to sit down and each write on your own piece of paper columns of the plusses and minuses of her moving in with you, now and later. After you have both completed your paper, compare the columns. The proof will be before you. Which column is longer on each of your papers? Also both of your feelings are right in front of both of you. The old saying, the handwriting is on the wall!!
After a while, we ended up refinancing, and built her own cottage in our backyard. Now that she’s passed, we get extra income for renting.
Would I do that again? Yes. Again, you’re damned if you do, and especially damned if you don’t. My humble opinion.
I personally am not in favor of this "arrangement" and have posted my thoughts on it. Marriage is a commitment - it isn't like buying a blouse, then realizing it doesn't go with anything and returning it. If you give up that easily, I would suggest that you don't EVER consider marriage again! Having a house is also a commitment, but a financial one. MIL should NOT be any part of the purchase. It can be sold without too many legal issues! Children - wow. It is enough disruption of life and routines without having a third party in the middle.
New marriage, house buying and having kids are all among the big stressors in life. Adding a "live-in" parent is likely going to be another biggie. Personally, nope.
if I were in your spot knowing what I know now, I would hand him Your iPad or sit him down at the computer with this stream of answers, ask him to read it all and then ask him what he thinks the right thing for everyone is given this new information. Then, if necessary state her position.
if I were in your spot knowing what I know now, I would hand him Your iPad or sit him down at the computer with this stream of answers, ask him to read it all and then ask him what he thinks the right thing for everyone is given this new information. Then, if necessary state her position.
It can create a strain even if both are willing to give it a go. There are doctor appointments and other things that will burn most of a day. Do both of you have ability to take off work whenever you want - or is one of you more free to be off than the other. The one with more leniency will be doing all of these things. More than likely, he is considering this right now because it 'appears' doable and it really might me at the moment. The conversation needs to be about how can she be taken care of when she loses more mobility or mind deteriorates further.
Having a mother in law suite in the home is never a bad idea. It could be used to bring her for periodic visits if she moved to an assisted living facility. Or used for company. It is a plus where your new home is concerned. If I were buying again, I would definitely get as much as I could afford in regard to a separate suite area.
It seems to me that on some issues there is variance of opinion on here. Reading through the comments, this is not one of those cases. Every comment I have read (and I scanned quickly so maybe I missed a couple) is not only no, but HECK no.
I have seen this work a couple times in rare circumstances. A good friend of mine suggested to his wife that they bring in HER mother. She was a saint, easy going lady. The MIL refused at first, not wanting to be a burden, so that shows the kind of person she is
But they knew she didn't have a whole lot of time left, and it worked. But that is by far the exception.
The same goes for her health and mobility. When in the role of caregiver, you are essentially fighting a losing battle everyday. They do not get better, they gradually get worse, in mind and body. 😞 With every new diagnoses, or worsening of a chronic conndition, comes more and more daily responsabilities that will be tasked upon you and your husband to manage yourselves.
Set strict personal boundaries from the get go, and keep reinforcing them.
I found out the hard way, that nothing is sacred when an elderly person is not getting their way. They have a tendency to emotionally manipulate the entire household. Kids included.
My mil often attempted to place herself in the same category as tho she were one of our kids.
Playing mom and dad against eachother, jealous when one of our kids would receive something new and she didn't... Same with me. My husband couldn't buy me anything without her throwing a fit.
And honestly, that's just the tip of the iceburg.
Don't get me started on my dad and his crying that everything was elder abuse.
He decided he was tired of being put to bed at 11 p.m. every night, so he proceeded to call the cops. 😂😭😂
The house was to hot/ elder abuse! The house was to cold/ elder abuse!
One minute he would demand I put him in a home,,, then the next minute he's trying to cry on his 9 yr old granddaughters shoulder about me trying to put him in a home.
It's detrimental you and hubby sit down, agree on personal boundaries and put up a united front from the get go.
I also recommend having a strong network of support, back up caregivers/sitters, reach out to to your local dept of aging to secure resources she may qualify for as well.
You and your husband will need breaks, and it's hard when they reach a point where you can no longer leave them alone for even a short amount of time.
Set boundaries with them for the caregivers as well,,, most do not like sitters and will do what they can to chase them off, or make things difficult for them, to where they don't want to come back, or simply cut your alone time short cuz they're sick of it and leaving.
And if it's not a friend or family member helping... They can be very expensive.
These are just a few of my personal recommendations based on my extensive experience caring for an aging parent.
Just things to consider and be aware of.
I also suggest seeking a Facebook support group for caregiving for an elderly parent.. I found mine to be very helpful and informative.
I suggest you join one now simply for more insight into what this kind of journey entails.
Don't get me wrong, there were very loving a beautiful moments in the time spent with them as well, and in many ways it's an obligation as old as time that kids care for their aging parents.
However, it is not easy, and many things crop up that aren't expected. Just when you think your in a stable position and have it all under contol and things are going fairly smoothly,,, something comes up, or happens, where you're finding yourself scrambling to sort out a new normal. (If that makes sense?)
I wish you guys the best. Best for you and your husband, as well as what's best for mom. ❤
My MIL and FIL have been living with us for over 7 years, so far. She is 82 and he's almost 94. 3 years ago, he turned the whole family against us. MIL was kept in the dark about it. We told her but she doesn't believe that her husband could do something that evil. She is an ostrich. Anyway, always tension in this house. FIL is a narcist. He lies and curses a lot. My husband and I both have high blood pressure and take medication, due to the stress here. I actually suffered a stroke in February and was in the hospital a few days. I am 63. As for my husband and me, we have become a stronger couple, for sure. We love each other and cling to one another more now, than ever before. We pray a lot. We talk a lot. We cry a lot, but, we laugh even more....
I am 83, and I do not wish this on my children. So far I'm in fairly good health and could have ten more years. My directive says that I wish to stay in my house until I start getting too "fuzzy-brained" then either find me an independent living or assisted living arrangement. I don't want them to devote their years after child-raising to caring for me.
Your MIL is still young at 74. She could live 20 more years. Maybe as long as your children will be in your home. Taking her in now may seem like having a live-in maid as she can help you put, but not the full 20 years! Either find her a live-in caretaker in her OWN place to begin with, or sell her home to pay for AL and then apply for Medicaid to pay for it.
But it can work and it will be stressful and can cause health issues and you would both give up alot and your future children could either hate and resent grandma or become unselfish, loving, caring humans.
If she were in your home, having outside help would be good for her and a must for you both, but getting good help can be so stressful.
But putting them in a nursing home or assisted living can have stress or/ and relieve
I have had 3 family members who needed home care and my husband was one of the main caretakers for 2 of them and I helped for a couple years with my mother who recently died. Not in our home, in theres... it was not easy. Our children were toddlers when it stared and young adults at the end. They recently were saying (with love) that most of their lives we were taking care of a family member. When I look back at what we did, I know that it was only by the Grace of God that we were able to do it.
I think your husband must have such a good heart and if it does not work for her to be in your home, to know he wanted to take care of her that way says alot.
Our aging parents... the ones we love and cherish .... its so so hard
Check resources in her area for what is available for her. Has your husband gone to doctors appointments with her to see what doctors say about her health, is home health care a option?
Is having her in a apartment close by a option?
Read, research, write, talk with your husband and pray.
I will say a prayer for you and your husband.
When they list stress inducing changes in life, your situation hits several of them:
Marriage
House buying
Having children
Not even a year of marriage, you are still more or less newlyweds. There will be many ups and downs over the years that you will have to weather before you can claim a "stable" marriage. You haven't purchased a house yet or had kids.
While those last two are exciting moments in our lives, they are also disruptive and can be seriously challenging or even life-changing. Just trying to care for yourself AND a new baby will be difficult enough without having to worry about another person! It can take months to settle into a good routine, but even then there will be difficult times.
MIL is relatively young by today's standards and really should be living independently. If she is mobile enough and can do ADLs, then some kind of independent living should be the goal. 55+ condos, senior apartments, IL facilities with AL and/or MC associated. She can still visit with you, you with her, make more friends, etc and have her needs met without impinging on you.
I would make a list of pros and cons and have a serious discussion with hubby - NOT with MIL, this is NOT her decision.
What's in it for you two? What's in it for her?
- knowing she's in a safe place
- having a safe zone for later as she declines
Is she paying her way? If not, why not?
- not a good idea to "pool" resources to buy
- she should be paying her own way, rent, utils, etc
How "separate" would this arrangement be, at least initially?
- is she sharing meals or doing her own?
- if you go on vaca or out together, what is her plan?
What are the benefits of some kind of IL not at your home?
- independence for her
- socialization
- potential to increase care as needed via the facility
If/when she needs care, who is going to provide it?
- too often the "woman" gets all the duties
- even if the plan is to share duties, watch out for slides!
What are the down-sides for you two and for her?
- lack of privacy
- invasion of privacy
- driving a wedge between you two
- interfering with child care
Given a new marriage, plans to buy a home, and plans to have a family, these are all going to be issues if you agree to this. As someone else said, try to avoid an outright no to hubby, but rather discuss many of the issues I and others posted and find out what his "plan" is to manage all this.
She is relatively young and should be socializing with people in her own age with similar interests. Staying socially active is beneficial for her health and well-being. She should be addressing depression and anxiety by seeking medical care, not relying on moving in with you all. If she's unhappy, distressed and depressed, how is moving in with you going to change that? Serious question for hubster - happiness comes from within. If her only source of happiness is to cling to her son, you all are in for a rude awakening.
My vote is no, but it is your decision. We are just trying to provide "food for thought."
It has been 3 years since moving my mother in and the biggest regret of my life.
We have no privacy, tied down and mentally exhausted.
I agree with the others who have said that if you fear for your marriage if she does not move in, you have no hope for your marriage if she does.
Have a serious discussion with your husband. My current husband of nearly 35 years was my second marriage. Within a year of our marriage we had a very frank discussion about our strong-minded families. We agreed that any family member was welcome to visit for 1 to 2 weeks, but that nobody would ever move in. All these years later we are happy we decided once and for all. Both our mothers had/have issues that make staying in their own homes doubtful/unwise. Their option is to move into residential care.
This is not as unfeeling as it might seem. Full time care of another person requires skills, resources, and certain personality traits. If you haven't got them all you could really end up in a terrible situation. The best way to remain friends with your MIL could be minimal contact. Visit her or encourage your husband to visit her once a week, and call her several more times each week. Don't get sucked into the black hole of someone else's neediness.
You could be there to help, and to see her for once weekly outings, etc. If she is important to your husband, he will be very grateful to you.
Been there done that!! Doesn’t work for anyone in the family including Mo-in-law—So my advice is to find an elderly housing unit near you or in next town over where she can make friends her age & they all are experiencing the same things in life & they can chat together & commiserate together. They usually have a van to take them shopping, church or Doctor appts—Also would be great if a senior center was near where she lives as she can go there daily & do all kinds of things with people her age (dancing, knitting, exercise, painting classes etc). She should always enjoy seeing you & you her. Stay in your separate houses & visit only. I am 80 yo & moved in with my mother & her sister as a newly wed & it was like that until we finally bought our own house; but Aunt had died & mother came & lived with us—she was a sweetheart, no problem except she was in my ‘space’ (2 women cannot be in the same kitchen or watch TV every night together—it just doesn’t work—EVER!!). I finally had to ask her to move; which she did & my kids & I stopped taking her for granted & started treating her as a mother & grandmother should be treated; with respect & affection—we all loved her—just not living with us.