My mom and I have been extremely close my entire life. We lived a half mile from each other, got together several times a week, and talked every day. I have two daughters who were equally close to her.
Two years ago we moved to her home town and it’s been a complete disaster since we arrived. She has been telling lie after lie about my girls and I, to the point that many family members won’t even acknowledge me in public. I have defended myself and can physically prove that she is lying. (Example her furnace went out and because of a holiday and snowstorm it took 3 days to get it repaired. I provided her with enough space heaters to comfortably heat her house. She has been telling people I left her without heat for 3 weeks, even though the repair receipt proves it was 3 days. When I confronted her she said “well it felt like that long” and continues to hold firm on her time line.
Her behavior is crazy—I went to see her and she told me her house made her feel like a “dirty bug.” (The house was immaculate.) Two weeks later she moved out and refused to provide a forwarding address. She tells everyone I have abandoned her and poisoned my kids.
I have begged her to go to family counseling to figure things out, given her money for therapy (she ripped up the check), talked to the priest at her church (and she cancelled the meeting with him and lied and said he cancelled it). She had denied any attempt I have made to resolve things yet she still continues to endlessly bash me to family members.
When I confront her about the lying she denies it, even though she’s admitted to family members she has lied. I told her if she’s lying and doesn’t know it then there is a bigger problem and she should see a doctor. After that comment she said “I’m done!” and hung up on me. She despises doctors and refuses to go.
This behavior is not normal, I don’t even know who she is anymore. The few family members I do talk to act like they understand but they don’t defend me. I have repeatedly asked what I’ve done wrong and nobody can give me an answer. It’s like they don’t believe she’s lying because she’s sweet and has never been a liar. This is why I think there is an age related mental issue. Has anyone experienced anything similar? It’s heartbreaking and she’s destroyed my reputation, not to mention broken my heart. Is she sick or is she just a terrible person when she’s in her home town? I’m at a loss.
I used to hear a saying that went “ only a crazy person doesn’t think they are crazy.” Think about that when dealing with her. She doesn’t think she has a problem because her brain tells her that isn’t true. After you have repaired the contact with her, see if you can just get her to consent to having a physical. You can write a note to the doctor for his/her nurse to give, explain in it what is going on and the doctor can give her the simplified version of the dementia test, it’s very simple and she probably won’t catch on as to what it is for. A urinalysis will be done to rule out a UTI and blood tests can rule out other types of infection.
When my father and I would go out together and he would start with a whopper I placed myself slightly behind his shoulder so I could see the person he was talking to and make eye contact with them, smile and shake my head in a no fashion. Most people would continue to listen and smile at him letting him finish with his story. Treating a person with dementia with compassion and kindness, along with lots of patience goes a long way in not having huge arguments. I would recommend to you a blog called the Alzheimer’s Reading Room. There is a lot of good advice in it on the different aspects on how to deal with the challenges of dementia. Good luck and hugs to you and your family on healing things with your mom to give or get her the help she needs.
I have a similar situation.
For decades I have been on the receiving end of anger and crazy accusations. Nothing ever worked to defend myself.
My mother is 90 and in addition to behavioral disorders now has vascular dementia.
Has broken both hips and gets epidurals for pinched nerves.
I have DPOA for medical and financial.
I stay in her hometown during hospital and rehab stays to oversee her care. Her treatment of me changes throughout the day.
This is what works for me.
I am kind in tone and interactions with her. When she starts yelling etc I say that I can see that she is upset and will try to help. I ask if there is anything else she would like and I say goodby and leave.
Most times I sit in the car and cry because I’ve been hurt but there is nothing I can do because her brain is broken, there was neglect and abuse in her childhood. I have hired 24/7 in home care givers that she loves. Who are shocked at her treatment of me. She is as happy as I can arrange for her. But for my health I stay away. Send cards and gifts. I keep in mind how I would want to be treated and do my best. During hospitalization,
I set up her new doctor to oversee her care. I talk w her pain Dr to try to keep her comfortable. She has in home OT and PT that I oversee. RN several times a week. I handle investments and taxes. Everything is done behind the scenes. She would never admit she is thankful because she is not aware she needs help. With my input her Dr has increased her anxiety meds to twice a day so she doesn’t get so upset that the caregivers struggle to calm her fears. It’s a balancing act. I live with when is the next crisis call coming. Over Christmas she was hospitalized with blood clots and told Drs they couldn’t talk to me. For short periods she appears normal.
Most importantly I see a therapist. You need someone to be able to talk to about all the crazy that is your normal.
Hopefully just knowing that someone understands is a comfort.
You have done as much as you can, but sometimes the best thing you can do for those you love, is let it go.
Otherwise, your going to end up in the nut farm. Stop letting others dictate who you are, you know who you are and what’s been done. Me, I say the hell with them all for now and go on and enjoy life and your two daughters.
The hard part is going to be when they finally wake up to her madness and your temptation to say “I told you so”!
If your not happy where you live, move away, looks like there are plenty of family that can step in if need be.
Life is short and mental illness is ugly and will literally suck the life out of you if you let it.
Deep down, your Mom knows you love her and would do anything for her, unfortunately mental illness has taken over.
Except it gracefully and forgive and move on with your life. Place all your burdens on the Lord and find happiness once again.
Knowing that if she needs and wants you, you’ll be there.
I know this sounds harsh, but I have seen so many families and friends destroyed for trying to help a loved one who doesn’t want their help.
Hold on to the good memories and move forward, you owe it to yourself and your kids.
Wishing you and your daughters all the best in these trying times.
God bless.
I've been reading some of the advice given you and I'm even more sadden by how many children are in the same boat.
I too love my children and grandchildren very much and it scares me to think this could happen to me, (dementia) and I may hurt them like you're are being hurt. I pray the good Lord shows favor on me, and pray for a cure!!! To me it seems that this disease is increasing more and more. Why?? My grandmother had Alzheimer's, and that was heart breaking to watch and go through.
I think this is an aweful thing for me to say, but I'd rather have cancer than lose my mind and hurt everyone that I love dearly. At least I can died with dignity. Again I'm so sorry for your lost. Please go to someone to talk to, to release your faustation, don't blame yourself, try to remember her the way she loved you not hurt you. If I was your mother, I would rather you stayed away from me so I wouldn't keep hurting you or my grandkids. Maybe subconsciously this is what she's doing, but then is confused?
I don't know honey, but will add you to my prayer list. God bless you.
Kathie 💞
Second, your mother says that you need to get help yourself. Could you agree to do so as long as she comes too so that she can explain your problems? It might be a way to get her to some help for herself.
Best wishes.
You have distanced yourself from your mom, tell your relatives that you are so hurt by what she has said, you don't want to listen to anymore of it. If someone tries to bring it up, repeat, "I am so hurt by what my mother has said that I don't want to listen to anything she says about me. Let us talk about something else."
What you are going through is tearing you up, you are not a slave, get out of there. Your sweet loving mom was then, this is now.
from what I can tell from your comments. Check it out. My mum is one. Through research on Narcistic behaviour your Mum is behaving similar. Only thing that confuses me is that she use to be good. Once a Narcisse's would always have been one. Still very much worth you checking it out.
Cheers Katrina.
if she has the onset of dementia. I’ve been researching and analyzing for two years. I think the dementia thing was most obvious to me last week when I got so frustrated by the lies and rumors I asked her (for the 100th time) to stop talking about me and lying about me. She innocently and sadly said “I’m not lying about anything.” It was that moment where I understood she believes she’s not lying. She doesn’t understand all of the bashing she does has created a culture of hate and hostility towards me from other family members. The two family members closest to her believe every word she says and even though I’ve reached out to them for help I’ve been either denied or ignored. The family members I do talk to say she’s sad that we’ve abandoned her (even though I’ve made countless failed atewmpts to resolve the issue). She refuses to engage and include us in anything, even her new address, but somehow we’ve abandoned her? That’s just crazy talk.
It blows my mind I’ve had a lifelong healthy relationship with her entire family and suddenly I’m dirt.
I guess if she’s on the mental decline it will only be a matter of time before they figure it out. I hope someone can talk (or trick) her into going to the doctor. Thanks for your input.
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The staff told me that there was absolutely no sense in arguing with her, because in her mind, that's exactly what was happening. Couldn't convince her otherwise. To complicate matters, she is 85 years old, an amputee and has been addicted to prescription opiates for over 30 years.
What you have described is similar - the accusations, etc. It's so hard to watch. God bless you in your journey. This forum is wonderful for being able to voice your concerns without judgement.
A couple of things struck me. One is your mom's lifelong feeling of not being good enough and her need to blame others. She's returned to her home town and makes herself feel important and victimized by blaming you for her issues.
This sounds more like a lifelong mental illness in which you are suddenly the target. In your shoes, I'd seek the help of a therapist for you and for your daughters who sound like they are suffering mightily.
You might also consider visiting the priest you mentioned to express concern about your mother's well being and about the damage her stories have wrought on your reputation. He might have some useful advise for you, or he might even reach out to your mom. Defaming others doesn't strike me as being a very Christian thing to do.
Ultimately, I would strongly urge you to move when daughter 2 finishes HS. It sounds like there are plenty of family and friends around to care for Mom when her needs become clear. And this episode totally disqualifies you as a hands on caregiver. There will always be whispers in this town that you " abused" her.
Get away while you can and if need be, arrange professional caregiving from afar. see less
As far as seeing a therapist, we do have one who has given us a lot of guidance and support. I wish my mom would go but she refuses, giving excuses that she can’t afford it (I can and have given her money to pay for it), she even said she tried and the therapist’s office “doesn’t take cash.” (Which is also a lie.)
I went to her priest with the same stance in mind— that this behavior isn’t very Christian (of anyone in the family). I don’t attend church but the priest welcomed me and set up an appointment for us to help us. We met with him one time and she lied to his face. We had another meeting scheduled and she cancelled (and lied again saying he cancelled on us.) I called her out on her lie and she admitted to it and said she didn’t think going would do any good. She also thinks priests are worthless since they have never been married, and she thinks they know nothing about families. She couldn’t be more wrong, the priest has the largest family in town! He’s wonderful man with a lifetime of providing family support and she doesn’t think he’s qualified. Sadly he just retired and moved away. She doesn’t like the new priest. I’m not even sure why she goes to church, she didn’t go for 25 years of living in our previous city (except when we visited.) She used to get angry with me for not going but I thought it was hypocritical and fake to pretend that I went regularly. Anyway, I don’t know the new priest at all, but maybe I shouldn’t eliminate it as an option.
I hope one day my family will be enlightened and realize I’m not the problem.
Cash ? Does that mean a check, or bills and coins? To a fully functioning adult, we get what a doctor's office means when they say they don't take " cash", i.e., bills. They likely take checks.
The difference is subtle but it separates the cognitively impairemed ( and the limited) from the fully functional folks.
Regarding the “cash,” I confirmed with the office they do take actual cash, as well as checks and credit cards. It was just an excuse for her to not go. I wrote her a check to cover the expense of multiple sessions and she ripped it up. If she doesn’t want to do something she won’t.
Almost two years ago I set my mom up to go do an activity with the Family Services person in her city. The woman picked my mom up, took her to the lunch and the activity, and dropped her back at home. Then my mom accused the woman of stealing her wallet. She found her phone number and called and accused her directly. Luckily, the Family Services person is aware of the nutty behavior associated with dementia. Still, it is embarrassing and frustrating.
What's really hard about all of this is that your family member is speaking English but nothing makes sense. Things start to get weird. You ask yourself if you are imagining things, and they are accusing you, and lying, and changing the story. Please know that this is most likely because of the changes in their brain and not for any other reason. Imagine starting to not know what is reality and what is not and you might have an inkling of how this feels to her.
Are there any dementia/ Alzheimer's support groups where you live? You might find some help that way. I would also find a geriatrician who can explain to you what is going on. This is going to be a very difficult time, I'm afraid. Is there anyone who can help your mom, that is, will she accept any help? My mom is very stubborn and it took a family trauma for her to finally accept help. (The trauma was not her fault in any way.) She now lives in Memory Care. It was not easy getting to this point at all.
Please write back. I'm glad to answer any questions to the best of my ability.
Shes so angry at me and I don’t even know why. The things she claims she is angry about are all false claims, but when I defend myself I’m dismissed.
When we moved we found her a house about a month before I found mine, so she was up here a few weeks before we arrived. She told everyone that when we moved here nobody was allowed to come to my house uninvited. She put a bad taste in everyone’s mouth before we even moved in. It’s like this place made her toxic. Did the move make this happen? I don’t know.
Two months after the move my daughters lost their dad. I was flying back and forth every weekend dealing with the loss and to help settle his estate. I used all of my allotted vacation. Knowing she also needed attention, and I had been traveling a lot, (even though we talk daily) I invited her to dinner after my daughter’s hockey game. We took my daughter home and went to dinner. I thought we were having a nice time until she got very agitated and angrily said “I haven’t been on a vacation since we moved here!” I said “Mom, you are retired and we are living in a town where we used to come for vacation. There is nothing holding you back from visiting anyone. Hop on a plane (she was a flight attendant and loves to travel) or go see your sister (who lives 3 hours away.) She sad “it’s going to snow tomorrow!!!”
Wow. Okay. There was no reasoning with her. Somehow it was my fault.
I have always had her best interest at heart. The personality change is so drastic she’s not even the same person. She has lost all sense of empathy and everything is about her and her only. I’ve tried to explain how much her false accusations hurt and she just turns it around to me being the bad guy. Sadly she’s convincing. I’m at a loss, hence doing the research because I know this is not normal.
Any change at all can exacerbate the dementia, making it seem to advance quickly. Then we very much notice the changes and odd behavior that are occurring.
The change in this case was the move. It's irrelevant that it was to a favorite place and had nothing to do with the place and everything to do with the dementia.