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All of these kind commenters are right, this is not going to change and you need help dealing with this.
For one though, perhaps handling the meds and keeping them away from her is a good idea.
Best of luck and I feel for you with her anger.
I am currently caring for a woman who has my number; she knows I am soft inside and abuses me every day.
I am told that she hates my guts, doesn't want me there, has complained to her daughter (my boss) and is just vile and cruel daily.
It is gut wrenching, All the "don't personalize it" advice does not help when someone 2 ft away from you looks you in the eye and repeats how stupid, ugly and how much she detest you on a daily basis.
In fact, I will be with her in an hour and my solar plexus is already knotting up!
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God bless you.

Think of her behavior, the lying accusing, crassness as part of an illness..."stricken with age" as they say and try not to take the attacks on you personally. Yes as it been said here it sure sounds like dementia and its almost like she cant help but treat you in this very STRESSFUL way. You have to reach out like your doing here to keep your sanity and you must get some more help to lessen the load you are now carrying................. once again God bless you in your endeavors......
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I am in the same boat! My mom is 86, living alone in her house. All she does is sit and feel sorry for herself because my Dad died 2 years ago. I have a full time job, which she wants me to quit so that I can spend more time with her. Even if I wanted to, which I don't...I'm 53 and love teaching...I need to work to help my husband pay the bills. I have two older brothers who do not take her to appointments or to shop. It must be viewed as the daughter's job. I take her everywhere she wants to go, yet she called me, on my birthday, no less, to complain that I didn't take her shopping and her cupboards were bare. When I asked her to go shop last week, she said she had way too much food and only needed milk! I drove right up there with milk. I can never win. She will not admit to forgetting or being wrong and will argue viciously with me until I realize, oh, God,...I'm arguing back! She loves to make me feel like I am a bad child and yells at me for going out of town, asking what's wrong with me? I might have an accident or some man might make me pull over. My poor husband is tired of hearing me cry and complain in fear of my mother. It is difficult, but I need to ignore a lot of what she says. The above people have given great advice! Same scenario here with the doctor...She acted fine for him, even though I called ahead of time and begged for a happy pill for her. Nope. We are all in this together, and will be blessed for the sacrifices we make. Prayer helps me, but it isn't always immediate, unfortunately. God Bless!
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My heart goes out to you. My mother has been living with me for 9 years and I am miserable. She's 90 and has all her marbles but she is a b*tch to live with. I also have siblings, 3 brothers, that want nothing to do with her. She gets an occasional visit and maybe a phone call or 2 every year. I am so disgusted with all of them it's not even funny. We had another fight last night because she answered my phone and I was pissed. How dare she?! But no, she makes it look like I'm the bad guy and I end up saying I'm sorry. How does that make any sense? I truly wish she would die.
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Hope I'm not going off on too much of a tangent here, but there is so much mention of "obligation", "guilt", and "deathbed promises."
I was reminded of an annual ritual in one particular faith, where certain vows we might have made are absolved, null and void, written off. Some examples are: "I promise I'll NEVER drink AGAIN!" Or, "Please, just let me pass this test, and I'll do ANYTHING...." And, of course, a promise made with the best of intentions, with the main purpose being to comfort someone who is dying. "Yes, dad, I'll ALWAYS take care of mom, IN MY OWN HOME, NO MATTER WHAT, UNTIL SHE DIES."
Maybe it would be a comfort to you to consider that, over the eons, we humans have done things with the best of intentions, and they just don't work out. We have to change course. And I'm sure that there are many faith traditions that acknowledge this in their own way. Maybe you have someone you can speak to about this in your own spiritual community.
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When it gets to this stage you need to put her into professional care it is not good for you or her
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Let's say I am your elderly parent. I am losing mobility every day and I feel very weak. My mind is slower than it used to be but I am far from stupid. I take pills every day and do not have the ability to cook for myself. I live in my own apartment and my complaint is you kids forget who brought you up. Who was there for you when you got divorced, who took care of every grandchild while you were getting financially stable. Now we are broke and almost helpless and you resent having to visit once or twice a week. I am so sorry. Suck it up. It's called the cycle of life. Karma is a b*tch and when your time comes you will wish your children were a little more gentle with you. Just show they respect and give them a sense of worth.
"Don't know what I would have done without your support when I was getting divorced"..
"so glad you were there to take care of the kids so I could buy my house without paying babysitting costs"..
"So grateful you took care of the dog when we went on our vacation "...
"I can never repay you for all the times you worried about me" ...
"You always treated my friends like they were family"...
On and on I can go.. I think what we deserve as elderly parents is RESPECT and do not dehumanize us as these poor souls above have. You have no idea what it is to lose a bit of yourself every day to something you can not control, old age. Every bone in your body hurts but put on a smile so the kids don't feel bad. Obviously none of you feel bad. UNGRATEFUL.
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Belladora, I don't think you really get the gist of this thread. This is about MEAN mothers. Not all mothers took care of grandchildren, helped through hard times, provided sympathetic support. Some mothers (and fathers, of course) have been consistently self-centered, demanding, disrespectful, and demeaning. Some have always had a "golden child" who could do no wrong and whi is now expected to do nothing to help but is showered with all the attention. Some mothers were abusive. Some abused drugs or alcohol and were neglectful. So now they are experiencing the bitchiness of Karma (as you put it).

Of course MOST parents deserve respect and gentle care. Most earned it. And no parent is perfect. You don't need to have been perfect to deserve respect (or we are all doomed). But there is a huge difference between imperfect and abusive.

My mother was one of the good ones -- one of the majority. But I don't think that people who didn't have good parents need to behave toward theirs the same way I behave toward mine. There really is such a thing as Karma, you know -- also known as reaping what you sow.
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There you go. Minimalizing my intellect. I obviously do UNDERSTAND the thread. It isn't karma, It is the aging process. Reading these wimpy kids is making me sick. Isn't this the "ME" generation. All I said was treat them with RESPECT. We are old not stupid,
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Belladora,

It sounds like you have some personal pain around aging and care, and I'm very sorry for what you're going through. But, being judgmental is simply not kosher on this site, even if you completely disagree with someone.

For many people, this site is literally the ONLY place to be candid, honest, and work through the very difficult crosses there are to bear. We don't lash out here.

You are certainly welcome to discuss what is really bothering you and how you feel about it, without criticizing other site members.

My mother was abusive and I respect her by putting her in a care facility where there are people who can physically deal with her violence, her combativeness, her psychosis, her physical needs, her medical needs, and her social needs. She is safe from the world and herself. There is no amount of judgement from another person to make me change anything because they are not walking in my shoes.
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My problem is the selfishness that I sense on this site. I feel it is disrespectful to the elderly. If they weren't afraid of losing their inheritance they would put the person ( why only mothers) in a NH. There would be no guilt. There should be none. The elderly do not really expect you to take care of them. There is usually a greed aspect to this. I expect to live at home as long as possible, independently. I would assume I am going to a nursing home after that. It's like an unwanted child. Do them a favor and spare them your wrath. We are old not stupid.
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Oh, Belladora...it sounds like you have had a blessed life and been a blessing to your children! People with elders like you don't need this site as much as the ones who would LIKE to be loving, caring children but find themselves demeaned and belittled daily, and as Loretta said, when it is your own parent especially, to be told daily or even more often how stupid, ugly, and worthless you are when you are struggling to do your best just saps your spirit. You are blessed because you find that sort of behavior so unimaginable, but every day people write in about elders who expect to be taken care of - by their children, or worse still by ONE of their children and no one else, ever - no matter what because they feel it is owed to them; there are those who think nothing of uprooting and destroying their children's lives, jobs, marriages and self-worth. Yes, some do that because they have lost their judgement and their empathy to the ravages of dementia, but some have been narcissists all their life and never really acknowledged that their children were separate human beings with different needs of their own. YOU are obviously not like that.

And, yes, these children are ravaged by unmerited guilt, heaped upon them by the elder, sometimes by siblings, sometimes just by society in general and sometimes by people who simply state that assisted living facilities and nursing homes are for people whose families don't love them.
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Belladora, your attitude that "the elderly do not really expect you to take care of them..." is your attitude, and that's a generous, gracious attitude to have. Unfortunately, it doesn't apply to lots of other elderly people. Just as there are surely plenty of entitled children, there are also many entitled parents out there.
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There is that type of parent. I was one, until my children put me on notice, it does not work that way. They were not rude, they were respectful and asked me what I expected of them as I got older. There is no way I would or could live with any of them. Familiarity breeds contempt. They help me out financially when necessary. I lost every thing I owned in a fire. They replaced everything. They owe me nothing but respect. If you have expectations of your children shame on you. It really should be discussed much earlier than 70. If your parent lives in their own home, spend their $$ providing them with care. A reverse mortgage. That is their money.
There is no cheap way out. The house won't be left to the kids. No arguments.
How about elderly housing, independent living. It sounds more like a co- dependency issue than a matter of well being. Be innovative and do not be afraid to tell Mom or Dad, can't do it. We have to hire someone. If they have no money there are services that are free. Most are afraid of what will other people think. Be true to yourself. I read stories form some very resentful people. Spare your parent.
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About these whiny, greedy, resentful kids...

About 50% of caregivers are over the age of 50 - the age where they should be making the most money they ever will or about to take retirement.

Of those caring for someone aged 50+, the average age of caregivers is between 50-64.

Caregivers over age 55 put in avg 30+ hours a week. This means there is a significant group who put in a lot more than 30 hours a week. The number of hours dedicated to caregiving increases with the age of the caregiver. So when you're 75 you're going to be doing MORE caregiving each week than when you were 65.

Of those caring for someone aged 65+, the average age is 63 years with one third of these caregivers in fair to poor health. If the average is 63, a significant portion of the people are OVER age 63.

The percentage of caregivers caring for individuals over 85 years of age has increased across all three of the national surveys of informal caregivers conducted by National Alliance for Caregiving in the U.S. and AARP, in 1997, 2004, 2009.

Parent care continues to be the primary caregiving situation for mid-life caregivers with 70% of the caregivers between the ages of 50 and 64.

67% of caregivers provided for someone age 75 or older.

Caregivers who care for a loved one with emotional or mental health issues are more likely to have made work accommodations (77% vs. 67% of those caring for someone with no emotional or mental health issues.

Even with all these caregiving hours, people are still trying to hold down jobs at the same time:
•More than one in six Americans working full or part time report assisting with the care of an elderly or disabled family member, relative, or friend. Caregivers working at least 15 hours per week said it significantly affected their worklife.

•Among working caregivers caring for a family member or friend, 69% report having to rearrange their work schedule, decrease their hours or take an unpaid leave in order to meet their caregiving responsibilities.

•Caregivers suffer loss of wages, health insurance and other job benefits, retirement saving or investing, and Social Security benefits-- losses that hold serious consequences for the "career caregiver." A reported 37% of caregivers quit their jobs or reduced their work hours to care for someone 50+ in 2007.

•10 million caregivers over 50 who care for their parents lose an estimated $3 trillion in lost wages, pensions, retirement funds and benefits. The total costs are higher for women who lose an estimated $324,044 due to caregiving, compared to men at $283,716. Lost wages for women who leave the work force early because of caregiving responsibilities equals $142,693, and for lost Social Security benefits an estimated $131,351, and pensions an estimated $50,000.

Predominately single women caring for their elderly parents are 2.5 times more likely than non-caregivers to live in poverty in old-age.

•In 2010, 14.9 million families and other unpaid caregivers of people with Alzheimer's disease and other dementias provided about 17 billion hours of unpaid care. This represents an average of 21.9 hours of caregiving per week, or 1,139 hours of care per caregiver valued annually at $11.93 per hour- an estimated $202.6 billion in 2010.

Alzheimer's and dementia caregivers, provide care on average one to four years more than caregivers caring for someone with an illness other than Alzheimer's disease (43% vs. 33%). They are also more likely to be providing care for five years or longer (32% vs. 28%).

17% of caregivers feel their health in general has gotten worse as a result of their caregiving responsibilities.

•Those who are more likely to rate physical strain of caregiving "high" are female (17% vs. 10% males) and older (21% are 65+ vs. 11% at 18-49). They have lower incomes (19% vs. 11% of those with an annual income of $50,000+), a higher level of burden (31% vs. 9%, of those with a moderate level of burden and 5% of those with a low level), and are living with their care recipient (29% vs. 11% who don't live together).

Caregivers who work full-time say they suffer from poorer physical health than their non-caregiving counterparts. 16% of caregivers working full-time have a Physical Health Index (PHI) score of 77.4%, which is significantly lower than 83.0% for non-caregivers

Caring for persons with dementia is reported to impact a person's immune system for up to 3 years after their caregiving experience ends, thus increasing their chances of developing a chronic illness themselves.

40% to 70% of family caregivers have clinically significant symptoms of depression with about a quarter to half of these caregivers meeting the diagnostic criteria for major depression.

There are an estimated 641,000 adults aged 60 and older with intellectual (mental retardation) and other disabilities. One age-related concern is providing support to the family caregivers who themselves are experiencing diminished capacity.

•One in five caregivers report having had training (19%) but seek additional resources. 78% report needing more help and information with at least 14 specific topics related to caregiving. Caregivers in high burden situations are more likely to seek help (83% vs. 73% of low burden caregivers). The top three topics of concern to caregivers are: keeping their loved one safe (37%); managing their own stress (34%); finding easy activities to do with their care recipient (34%); and finding time for themselves.

•9 in 10 (96%) of caregivers of veterans are female and 70% provide care to their spouse or partner. 30% of veterans caregivers care for a duration of 10 years or more as compared to 15% of caregivers nationally. 88% report increased stress or anxiety as a result of caregiving, and 77% state sleep deprivation as an issue.

This information is from https://caregiver.org/selected-caregiver-statistics.
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Only1of8 if ytou're looking to be divorced and ignored by your children just keep putting mama first. Yes, you can be UNHAPPY on many fronts! Decide where your REAL responsibilities lie. You have a wife and a family AND a mother....didn't you promise in your wedding vows to "forsake all others and cleave unto your wife"?
So you made a promise to your Dad....is that MORE important than the one you made to your wife and children? Do you think your Dad would want you to forsake all others BUT your Mom? I'm guessing he wouldn't.
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All very good answers, to a question asked in Dec. 2011., with 76 answers.
We, as caring people, may be interested to know what is happening today, or perhaps start a new thread more relevant to the same issue today?
Not sure how this works if the person asking has moved on or found a solution
that could have been shared. Myself, I try to answer the original asker, to help that person, but this requires reading 76 posts, all with caring people putting themselves out there, for 3 1/2 years?
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Sandwich...thanks.. I cared for both my parents (now deceased) for almost 10 years. I lost my job and suffered major depression. Now I am trying to mend at 63 and find my own marriage again. My parents received excellent care, but at what expense... I guess mine and my husbands. I realize it can be different, but the statistics do not lie. I especially find the Humana commercial about families living together incredibly disingenuous. For one thing the grandmother being depicted certainly would not have grandchildren that young. A typical looking at life with rose-colored glasses and/or the picket fence myth. I loved my parents dearly, but I wish I would have asked for help as much for me as them.
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Sendme2help, whenever an old thread rises to the top again, that mean someone has responded. I read those from the bottom up -- scanning until I find the first recent date. Is it the original poster, returning to tell us how things turned out? Is it someone new who found this in a search and has a similar problem and wants some fresh answers? If it is just someone offering an answer to the original poster, who may not even be on the site any more, I let it go. But if it is a new poster I respond to THAT person, using their name to make that clear. There really isn't much point in responding to a post several years old.

And you are not obligated to read years worth of old posts to help the new poster.

(This is just how I approach old posts.)
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To Jeannegibbs: Thanks for that advice on questions asked years ago. Saves time.
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1 of 8. I too am a sole caregiver for my elderly mother, who recently moved in w me, my husband and young son. My mother is also very nasty, mean and suspicious. She is affecting our sleep waking up the whole family several times at night and is affecting our eating habits. She becomes enraged and violent if either my husband and I cook in the kitchen in front of her. She was recently diagnosed w early onset dementia and early stage of alzheimers w psychotic episodes. However, from what I've been reading on this site, she sounds like she's a little more than "early". She was given a prescription for an anti-psychotic to help control her visions, suspiciousness and rage. I also have a sibling who is very hands off and has openly told my mother and I that she can't stand to be in the same room as my mother for more than an hour. In a way, I don't blame my sister for staying far away from her. My mother is getting meaner by the day. I do need some advice and support and sometimes just someone to talk to. Talking to friends and non-immediate family is frustrating, when all I hear is, "Why on earth would your mother do that- or say that?" Most of my friends parents are 10-15 yrs younger than mine, as my mother had me at 40. I was moved to respond to your post as I am dealing w what sounds like a similarly abusive parent. Good luck and I hope to find some resources to help her/us.
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Brooklyn88, I have a different question than your friends do. "Why on earth would you subject yourself to your mother doing that or saying that?" I can understand your sister's reaction better than I can understand yours.

You've known that your mother is a mean person. This is not new. Health problems very seldom improve a person's personality. So why did you let this nasty, mean, and suspicious person move into your house and disrupt your sleep and take over the kitchen?

Alzheimer's with psychotic episodes is not for amateurs to deal with. What made you think you could do it?

I've heard lots of different reasons on this site. "Obligation," "Guilt," "To be sure I inherit" -- and a lot of "I don't know. It just seemed like the right thing at the time."

If you can tell us what you were trying to achieve by moving her in, perhaps someone has suggestions about how best to achieve that without putting your family through this stress.
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It is difficult at best. My older brother & I recently got involved with the care of my mother who left when I was eight years old, divorced my dad, and because it was deemed that she abandoned her children my father was one of the first men in Massachusetts to gain custody of his kids. This was in the early 70's. She was bitter about her life as the man she left me dad for left her to marry another shortly after the divorce. Her life did not turn out how she thought.

She was involved with us growing up but it usually involved creating a tremendous amount of chaos. So much so that we eventually became estranged. She has been terribly viscous to my father and I and extended her venom to our children on many occasions. The only one of her children she seemed to care for and dote on was my other brother who systematically abused & financially exploited her.

Now that she is elderly, sick, frail, and penniless this dirtbag moved out of state called us to step in and threatened U.S. With elderly affairs which I had already been calling for multiple years. It is a very strange position to be in to be caring for someone who was never emotionally there as a parent and was often abusive. We had to place her in long term care. While going through her belongings I found pictures of myself and my kids that I had sent over the years with some of the most terrible things written on the back of them u my mother. She has said some of the most horrible things about her own grandchildren, it is painfully sad as my dad who I was close to, passed when my daughter was 18 months old and before my son was born. I know that he would have loved to have been able to be involved with them it my mother has always been too bitter to put her own issues aside and therefore lost out on so much.

So the only thing I can say to you is this. I take care of my mother not out of love, that would be ridiculous, but out of compassion. I try to keep in mind that my mother was never fully healthy. She has been dealing with undiagnosed mental disorders for decades that have left her incapable of being kind and loving to her children. When the end comes I will rest easy knowing that I did all I could for s woman who could not do for herself and could never be the mother she should have been to her children.
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MGGEJM36 you sound very well grounded and compassionate in spite of your chaotic upbringing. Your father must have been very competent at parenting and you must be very resilient. Caring for your mother from a distance -- and NOT moving her in with your family -- is an admirable choice. Abandoning her would have been justified (in my opinion) but seeing that she has care without doing the hands-on caregiving yourself is a healthier alternative. Thanks for sharing your story!
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@jeanne,

Thank you for those kind words. They are appreciated.
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This is an old thread, just read this but I think it applies to many who post in the forums who are in distress, the same kind of problems keep coming up. It seems to me that when people lose control of their bodies in old age and get isolated, they regress to a child like state in many ways, and some regress into the terrible twos. Speaking as a codependent who is becoming more self aware and working on it, I can say from experience the more you cater to a person's every whims, cover for their unreasonable behavior in front of others, and be a people pleaser the more the likelihood that you will tend up turning them into a demanding tyrant. You can take even an average person in a normal setting and if you treat them like every wish is your command, soon they will be corrupted by the power they have over you and start to become abusive dictators. It's not good for them and yourself to hand your own good sense over to others who are getting more and more preoccupied with only themselves due to pain and illness, and while it is important to be compassionate it is equally important to establish and maintain reasonable boundaries with everyone, parents, spouses and partners, children, co workers, etc.
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I'm a nursing student and also a psychology major and plan to practice geriatric psych after graduation. I have done both private home health cases as well as through agencies and have over 10 years dementia experience. From my perspective, lots of times the families have sick, dysfunctional dynamics which, sadly, cannot be changed for many reasons. The type of elderly person described here matches my Aunt to a T--and she was bipolar and personality disorder amongst her other crazy behaviors. She ended up in a psych facility in her later days though we all tried to help. But loving someone and promises cannot provide the full time professional care some of these seniors need. I have personally been verbally and physically assaulted on cases and called my supervisors immediately to take over and ended my assignments. As much as I love nursing I'm not losing an eye over it. Many of our seniors are mentally ill and aging has made it worse. It's an epidemic and I worry about the future for them but don't see many viable solutions.
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I forgot to add...sure, you could try to hire outside help, but as someone who does this for a living...I can tell you 99% she will abuse the caregivers in the same way. This means people quitting every week and incontinuity of care. Mom needs a psych evaluation and placement in a nursing/psych facility. Just my two cents.
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Well my niece and nephew packed up and moved away to keep from taking care of their mother. Neither want a relationship with her ever again. So I guess you could run away or as Mary said put her in a nursing/psych facility and let them address the situation with medication. This sounds hard and cold but after many years of caring for someone who was ill, you will find out as I did that sometimes, this is the only way.

God Bless and Good Luck!
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When dealing with a narcissist/borderline person, you might try to have a relationship with them, but they are never going to engage in a relationship with you. It's all about take, take, take. Never any give.

I realized this (finally) after a lot of decades of self-torture and trying to do something - anything - to make my mother say "good job". It's never going to happen, so I had to get on with the life I wanted. Moving far away was a key element in learning to be me and please me.

Ultimately, she could not be alone safely anymore, so we had to intervene and take steps. Mom's been in my home, in an independent living apartment, skilled nursing, secure dementia care, and now hospice. My only goals for her were safety from herself and the world, and a quality of life that was impossible were she to stay on her own. And it happened. It involved a couple hospitalizations where she got the geriatric psych care she needed for years.

Nowdays the goal is just comfort. I can sleep at night knowing that I took care of what she needed, even if she didn't like it. She was safe, clean, fed, got medical and psychiatric care better than she'd had before ever, and was living in the nicest place she ever had been in.

That would not have been possible if I had left her in place.
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