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I wasn't going to waste my time responding to this ridiculous post, but in the end I just couldn't resist. I mean with all the nonsense going on in this world and all the heartbreak and struggles on this forum alone, and someone is actually more concerned about what we call adult diapers on here??? REALLY??? Please, don't waste our time with such nonsense. We are all grown ass adults on here and we can call them whatever the hell we want. We don't need the "diaper" police telling us what we should or shouldn't be calling them. I'd like to think that most of us know what our loved one prefers us to call them. I know for myself with my husband I just called them his new underwear, but I really don't care if Susie wants to call them diapers, underwear, incontinence briefs or whatever, as only she knows her loved one best. So lets get back to what's really important in this journey called caregiving, like lifting each other up and encouraging each other and quit with the silly semantics.
So I take it you're against calling the elders "old bags", too, huh? 😁😂🤣
This post is actually a good example of how caught up our society has become on words and being offended by them. Ralphie Mays was a comedian who spoke about words having power simply bc we GIVE them power. We can be as righteously indignant as we'd like over what an incontinence product "should" be called, but in the grand scheme of a caregivers exhausting day, the last thing they need is a scolding or a lecture by anyone. Perhaps a kind word would go a lot further than virtue signalling that you're more tuned into semantics than she, who is up to her elbows in feces, is. Support is the name of the game here.
So is leaving an original post ALONE, AS IS, without moderators correcting errors in spelling, especially on a thread calling folks out on THEIR incorrect usage of WORDS! 😑
@TouchMatters, I think you should pick a new topic each day and place it under discussions. That would give us newbies somewhere to write in the discussion section.
Clearly, this issue is a trigger for many. It is semantics.
And, yes. Most of us are over-worked, exhausted, grieving, overwhelmed. It is my opinion and way of respecting an adult wearing disposal underwear.
It doesn't mean that everyone here feels the same way. As indicated in messages to me, some people are very upset with me - due to the stressors they are managing. I do understand.
And, this forum is for all of us to share our feelings, support, opinions. If some need to get their anger and frustration out on me, so be it.
"So is leaving an original post ALONE, AS IS, without moderators correcting errors in spelling, especially on a thread calling folks out on THEIR incorrect usage of WORDS!"
Lea, you're right. OP incorrectly spelled disposable underwears as "disposal underwears" while correcting people for using the word diapers. AgingCare swooped in and corrected her misspelling. But in OP's latest post, she misspelled "disposable underwears" again. Ironic, isn't it?
I will also add - just to mix in a little bit of humor - I have worked as a content editor in a former life - and one of the funniest things I have ever seen was a situation just like what we are talking about - where the system would "auto replace" certain words. Especially in English - so many words are used for different things.
So let's just imagine for a second this exact scenario - where we replace "Diapers" with "Incontinence Underwear" and someone is trying to say "When my children were still in diapers" and we end up with "When my children were still in INCONTINENCE UNDERWEAR"
So a wholesale remove and replace is not always the best idea - it doesn't always work for everything and causes a lot of confusion. And if AC just starts picking words to replace it could become chaotic. It is already confusing to me when I can't find the post subject that *I* created.
Old timers on the forum - please feel free to ignore - but I do really enjoy watching you "like" each others posts. Quite the tight show, ya'll are a hoot. And by hoot, I mean definition 1 of "thefreedictionary". ;)
Following BlueEyedGirl94's lead, I will also add some incontinence product humor, for the enjoyment of those "outsiders" who haven't given up on the discussion threads.
True story. Being married, since basically childhood, to an attractive, younger looking man can be a pain in the bum. Women were always approaching him, especially in our 20's, 30's and 40's, even when I am present.
We were at some point in our 50's in Sam's Club and my husband was waiting for me outside the restroom. I emerge and there is some younger thing chatting him up and he is loving it. I have learned to have fun with this sort of thing over the years. Most of the time I just wink playfully at the female, that seems to throw them off their game.
This time I was inspired due to shelves in front of me and called out to my husband, "Honey, I forget, do you prefer the medium or large Depends?
Yeah, he was still muttering about it on the way home.
I don't find it ironic at all that AgingCare swooped in and corrected the spelling of 'disposable underwears'. The administrators of this group have themselves a teacher's pet who they agree with. I make an innocent reference to sand (those who read my comments know what I mean) and they edit it out. I've seen people on here soliciting members of this forum to promote their own businesses. No one's in any big hurry to correct or edit them.
@lealonnie1
We can't say elders or old people anymore? Of course no one can should ever say 'old bag'. I mean have some class. The proper term is 'old baggage'. ;) So in our wokeness (what we have as a society, allowed to reach epic proportions of absurdity and nonsense to the point where we will soon become a non-verbal species who must communicate through emojis only lest we offend someone), what are the new politically-correct terms for old people? -Youthfully challenged? -Middle-aged deficient? -How about just a symbol? You know like when Prince became 'The Artist Formerly Known As Prince'? The new symbol for the elderly can be a pyramid. Or a model of Stonehenge. Maybe a picture of the Colosium in Rome. That's pretty old. Any one of these can now be the symbol representing the group of people formerly known as the elderly. God help us all.
In general these days , I can’t keep up with what are acceptable words ( terms) to use or not. It’s gotten ridiculous. I have enough trouble with spelling , grammar, punctuation, and other language crimes I commit .
@DIL This "old timer" (earned by almost 81 years if not by time here--only about 3 and change) has the perfect response for your hubby when you shout across the arena asking if he wants medium or large depends: "Sugar, you KNOW that in THAT AREA I always require EXTRA LARGE". Hee hee. I recently read that the current UK publisher of the works of Roald Dahl (childrens' author) has changed the wording of much of his stuff in order to be "more inclusive". Tractor can no longer be "black" and "boys and girls" is changed to "children". Gone are the words ugly, fat, bald, and crazy. The This Week Magazine posits that the works of Shakespeare cannot be far behind in needing revision. And one wonders when they get ahold of the bible, but then so many have revised IT that it may not be noticed. I hate that this thread has beat out Lea's thread in the run for the top 10, but knowing her, she's having fun with it. I sure am as well. And even Touch Matters seems to be surviving nicely. I say we all do our best to come up for the best word to replace the odious (!) "diaper" and post it by tonight.
Now you aren't so offended by the term 'diaper' and are calling the semantics you started semantics?
Are we doing damage control now because you got told about being ridiculously over-sensitive about total nonsense? You are the first one around here to be condescending and critical to the over-worked, exhausted, grieving, and overwhelmed who don't tell their stories in language that you find acceptable. So you put your halo on and adopt a superior attitude to caregivers looking for help and advice. I haven't done hands-on client care in a while. I sit in an office these days but I'm pretty sure it hasn't changed all that much. You correct me all the time. Even though I have 25 years of hands-on experience caregiving for elderly and disabled (physically and mentally) adults. Any time I respond to some question on here I speak from actual practical experience. Not from experience trouble-shooting, coordinating, brainstorming, or watching Teepa Snow videos. From actually doing it. No. I can't add fabric designer to my resume. More's the pity. Really, I'm glad you've decided to chill a little bit on the semantics.
Speaking of what our admins catch or change, perhaps it is an automatic spell check (??????).....
Because some guy up top on the High Road is touting some vitamin CURE for Parkinson's Disease in "Questions".
Could you all go up top and comment to the admins, then report your comment so we can try to get him bumped off the page. I hate when people take money from people in this manner. Thanks.
I don't remember seeing it Bandy, I don't think we are on the same threads very often. I tend to stop following threads that get a lot of comments because I have nothing new to add.
Alvadear, Hilarious! I wish my husband had your quick wit. I love laughing.
I must confess, I am a faux newbie, this forum got me through taking care of my MIL and FIL 10 years ago (they were in a nursing home by us and the rest of the family was several states away. And yes, the woman hated me. For the first time I am now a 24/7 caregiver for my son who has late stage cancer. I do hate to see the other thread losing the #, I understand her situation too well.
I moderate a forum for families who have relatives with schizophrenia. I have fielded requests that we not use the term schizophrenia anymore. People would prefer we would say "neurodiverse". I'm not sure how the people who need our help would ever find us if we did such a thing.
Clearly, this issue is a trigger for many. It is semantics.
And, yes. Most of us are over-worked, exhausted, grieving, overwhelmed. It is my opinion and way of respecting an adult wearing disposal underwear.
It doesn't mean that everyone here feels the same way. As indicated in messages to me, some people are very upset with me - due to the stressors they are managing. I do understand.
And, this forum is for all of us to share our feelings, support, opinions. If some need to get their anger and frustration out on me, so be it.
Gena / Touch Matters
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So now YOUR silly words are a trigger for US? With "disposal" again spelled incorrectly while you are lecturing US on "semantics "! Isn't that rich! At least proofread your OWN nonsense before posting! Or get the admin to once again correct your errors.....hurry.
You're entitled to *keep* lecturing us and we're entitled to keep giving it right back to you Gena / Touch Matters. So does knowing when to stop beating a dead horse, that matters too.
DIL, I heard just last night on my Crime Junkies podcast that we are no longer allowed to use the appellation "Munchausens By Proxy" for parents who claim that their children are suffering from maladies that they themselves are inflicting on their little ones. We must now call it by some initials I cannot remember or recall what stood for. Something starting with "F" I think.
Alvadear, I did think of a female "rebrand" ( using the kids' lingo) and my husband thought of several male versions - I will spare you all but one of his.
For the ladies, Glamour Pops - instead of changing someone, we "pop" on a fresh Glamour Pop. Add some smooth rhinestones to the back waistband and make it cool for the wise women to show their Glamour Pops sticking out - like the musicians do.
For the gentlemen, Rascal Wraps - once again instead of using the word "changing", we rebrand the wording to " are you ready to be wrapped?"
Husband kept going and said - for the large fellow's Rascal Wraps - there could be the Bootidryous XTREME.
And for the techies, a Rascal iWrap with a diaper moisture sensor that will alert the caregiver by playing the Hawaii 5-O theme song on an iPhone.
@OncehatedDIL - a trigger warning would be ever so helpful....I am going to be cleaning sweet tea off of my keyboard for a few minutes thank you very much LOL!!!
And as far as the derogatory terms for the "older" generation - the younger the generations get - the more interesting the terms get. The lovely current one is of course the "Ok Boomer" response to anything and everything that doesn't always mesh with their beliefs and in an attempt to make the speaker feel old.
My own daughters drive me insane because they will say it to me and I just laugh and say "Have some respect!!! Why do people seem to forget about my entire generation?? First of all how old do you think I am? Your GRANDMOTHER is a Boomer. and there is an ENTIRE generation between Millennials (which mine are not - they are actually Gen Z) and Boomers!! Why does everyone seem to forget Gen X exists?"
@Alvadeer - it is FDIA (Factitious disorder imposed on another) or FIIC (Fabricated or Induced Illness by Carers) - I've seen both - apparently the new name provides a more accurate description of a person's behavior?
DIL, I am pretty much doubled over with these suggestions for good names for incontinent wear. I think my favorite is "Rascal Wraps". Yes, you got it on the new name for Munchausens. I should be able to remember that one; facetious is one of my favotire words.
BlueEyedGirl94, I hear you on the boomer rant - the kids think everyone older than them is a boomer. Sorry about the keyboard, blame yourself, having a laugh was a good idea of yours with the "Incontinence Underwear" for children.
I too am from the 'Friends' time and am proudly Generation X. I know what you mean about with the 'Okay, Boomer' response every generation gets from these younger kids whenever someone does not agree with them. When pulling one by the ear is not applicable (in some cases like with the kids of strangers in a store or something) I respond with a clear. 'Shut the hell up, Zoomer'. Or 'I know how sign my own name. You don't'. Then there's my personal favorite. 'You kids won't be able to retire until you're 90.'
I don't think I would want to use something called a 'Glamour Pop' to pee and crap in. It sounds like some new and trendy kind of make-up. I'd totally wear a rhinestone-trimmed Liberace diaper though. Why not? Do they come in thong-style?
@BurntCargiver - I also can't wrap my head around the new NON-disposable (reusable) Incontinence Underwear. I'm totally ok with the idea of people using whatever incontinence aids they need - but that particular product really does take me back to the days of potty-training my daughters and I'm just not sure I could trust it. Sorry environment - I'm a child of the disposable era- my apologies but that is one thing I'm ok with single use!
And if that isn't enough - they also have them for menstrual cycles "period panties". That is not something I have to worry about - thank you menopause - but there is something just not quite safe to me about that. I'm not sure I would ever be able to work up the nerve. That and the Diva Cup - just seem like accidents waiting to happen. And that's not an accident I was ever willing to take a chance with.
And "Glamour Pop"....too close to "Glamour Poop" and then you go down a rabbit hole that you aren't getting out of...seriously! And rhinestone-trimmed thongs? Ugh.. you can have those - I'm a comfort girl!
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THANK-YOU. I think you've summed it up the best it can be.
Just call it a diaper and everyone will know what to do.
Well said.
I mean with all the nonsense going on in this world and all the heartbreak and struggles on this forum alone, and someone is actually more concerned about what we call adult diapers on here??? REALLY???
Please, don't waste our time with such nonsense. We are all grown ass adults on here and we can call them whatever the hell we want. We don't need the "diaper" police telling us what we should or shouldn't be calling them.
I'd like to think that most of us know what our loved one prefers us to call them. I know for myself with my husband I just called them his new underwear, but I really don't care if Susie wants to call them diapers, underwear, incontinence briefs or whatever, as only she knows her loved one best.
So lets get back to what's really important in this journey called caregiving, like lifting each other up and encouraging each other and quit with the silly semantics.
This post is actually a good example of how caught up our society has become on words and being offended by them. Ralphie Mays was a comedian who spoke about words having power simply bc we GIVE them power. We can be as righteously indignant as we'd like over what an incontinence product "should" be called, but in the grand scheme of a caregivers exhausting day, the last thing they need is a scolding or a lecture by anyone. Perhaps a kind word would go a lot further than virtue signalling that you're more tuned into semantics than she, who is up to her elbows in feces, is. Support is the name of the game here.
So is leaving an original post ALONE, AS IS, without moderators correcting errors in spelling, especially on a thread calling folks out on THEIR incorrect usage of WORDS! 😑
“Caregiver”?
Nahhhh. Giver a rest !
And, yes. Most of us are over-worked, exhausted, grieving, overwhelmed.
It is my opinion and way of respecting an adult wearing disposal underwear.
It doesn't mean that everyone here feels the same way. As indicated in messages to me, some people are very upset with me - due to the stressors they are managing. I do understand.
And, this forum is for all of us to share our feelings, support, opinions.
If some need to get their anger and frustration out on me, so be it.
Gena / Touch Matters
Lea, you're right. OP incorrectly spelled disposable underwears as "disposal underwears" while correcting people for using the word diapers. AgingCare swooped in and corrected her misspelling. But in OP's latest post, she misspelled "disposable underwears" again. Ironic, isn't it?
So let's just imagine for a second this exact scenario - where we replace "Diapers" with "Incontinence Underwear" and someone is trying to say "When my children were still in diapers" and we end up with "When my children were still in INCONTINENCE UNDERWEAR"
So a wholesale remove and replace is not always the best idea - it doesn't always work for everything and causes a lot of confusion. And if AC just starts picking words to replace it could become chaotic. It is already confusing to me when I can't find the post subject that *I* created.
Following BlueEyedGirl94's lead, I will also add some incontinence product humor, for the enjoyment of those "outsiders" who haven't given up on the discussion threads.
True story. Being married, since basically childhood, to an attractive, younger looking man can be a pain in the bum. Women were always approaching him, especially in our 20's, 30's and 40's, even when I am present.
We were at some point in our 50's in Sam's Club and my husband was waiting for me outside the restroom. I emerge and there is some younger thing chatting him up and he is loving it. I have learned to have fun with this sort of thing over the years. Most of the time I just wink playfully at the female, that seems to throw them off their game.
This time I was inspired due to shelves in front of me and called out to my husband, "Honey, I forget, do you prefer the medium or large Depends?
Yeah, he was still muttering about it on the way home.
I don't find it ironic at all that AgingCare swooped in and corrected the spelling of 'disposable underwears'. The administrators of this group have themselves a teacher's pet who they agree with.
I make an innocent reference to sand (those who read my comments know what I mean) and they edit it out. I've seen people on here soliciting members of this forum to promote their own businesses. No one's in any big hurry to correct or edit them.
@lealonnie1
We can't say elders or old people anymore? Of course no one can should ever say 'old bag'. I mean have some class. The proper term is 'old baggage'.
;)
So in our wokeness (what we have as a society, allowed to reach epic proportions of absurdity and nonsense to the point where we will soon become a non-verbal species who must communicate through emojis only lest we offend someone), what are the new politically-correct terms for old people?
-Youthfully challenged?
-Middle-aged deficient?
-How about just a symbol? You know like when Prince became 'The Artist Formerly Known As Prince'?
The new symbol for the elderly can be a pyramid. Or a model of Stonehenge. Maybe a picture of the Colosium in Rome. That's pretty old. Any one of these can now be the symbol representing the group of people formerly known as the elderly.
God help us all.
I have enough trouble with spelling , grammar, punctuation, and other language crimes I commit .
This "old timer" (earned by almost 81 years if not by time here--only about 3 and change) has the perfect response for your hubby when you shout across the arena asking if he wants medium or large depends:
"Sugar, you KNOW that in THAT AREA I always require EXTRA LARGE".
Hee hee.
I recently read that the current UK publisher of the works of Roald Dahl (childrens' author) has changed the wording of much of his stuff in order to be "more inclusive". Tractor can no longer be "black" and "boys and girls" is changed to "children". Gone are the words ugly, fat, bald, and crazy. The This Week Magazine posits that the works of Shakespeare cannot be far behind in needing revision. And one wonders when they get ahold of the bible, but then so many have revised IT that it may not be noticed.
I hate that this thread has beat out Lea's thread in the run for the top 10, but knowing her, she's having fun with it. I sure am as well. And even Touch Matters seems to be surviving nicely. I say we all do our best to come up for the best word to replace the odious (!) "diaper" and post it by tonight.
“sugar, you KNOW that in THAT AREA I always require EXTRA LARGE”.
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.
That made my day . Thanks !!
Now you aren't so offended by the term 'diaper' and are calling the semantics you started semantics?
Are we doing damage control now because you got told about being ridiculously over-sensitive about total nonsense?
You are the first one around here to be condescending and critical to the over-worked, exhausted, grieving, and overwhelmed who don't tell their stories in language that you find acceptable. So you put your halo on and adopt a superior attitude to caregivers looking for help and advice.
I haven't done hands-on client care in a while. I sit in an office these days but I'm pretty sure it hasn't changed all that much. You correct me all the time. Even though I have 25 years of hands-on experience caregiving for elderly and disabled (physically and mentally) adults. Any time I respond to some question on here I speak from actual practical experience. Not from experience trouble-shooting, coordinating, brainstorming, or watching Teepa Snow videos. From actually doing it. No. I can't add fabric designer to my resume. More's the pity.
Really, I'm glad you've decided to chill a little bit on the semantics.
new term for diaper.
Bum couch ?
Because some guy up top on the High Road is touting some vitamin CURE for Parkinson's Disease in "Questions".
Could you all go up top and comment to the admins, then report your comment so we can try to get him bumped off the page. I hate when people take money from people in this manner.
Thanks.
I must confess, I am a faux newbie, this forum got me through taking care of my MIL and FIL 10 years ago (they were in a nursing home by us and the rest of the family was several states away. And yes, the woman hated me. For the first time I am now a 24/7 caregiver for my son who has late stage cancer. I do hate to see the other thread losing the #, I understand her situation too well.
I moderate a forum for families who have relatives with schizophrenia. I have fielded requests that we not use the term schizophrenia anymore. People would prefer we would say "neurodiverse". I'm not sure how the people who need our help would ever find us if we did such a thing.
Clearly, this issue is a trigger for many. It is semantics.
And, yes. Most of us are over-worked, exhausted, grieving, overwhelmed.
It is my opinion and way of respecting an adult wearing disposal underwear.
It doesn't mean that everyone here feels the same way. As indicated in messages to me, some people are very upset with me - due to the stressors they are managing. I do understand.
And, this forum is for all of us to share our feelings, support, opinions.
If some need to get their anger and frustration out on me, so be it.
Gena / Touch Matters
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So now YOUR silly words are a trigger for US? With "disposal" again spelled incorrectly while you are lecturing US on "semantics "! Isn't that rich! At least proofread your OWN nonsense before posting! Or get the admin to once again correct your errors.....hurry.
You're entitled to *keep* lecturing us and we're entitled to keep giving it right back to you Gena / Touch Matters. So does knowing when to stop beating a dead horse, that matters too.
I heard just last night on my Crime Junkies podcast that we are no longer allowed to use the appellation "Munchausens By Proxy" for parents who claim that their children are suffering from maladies that they themselves are inflicting on their little ones. We must now call it by some initials I cannot remember or recall what stood for. Something starting with "F" I think.
One can't keep up. I always just plead my age.
For the ladies, Glamour Pops - instead of changing someone, we "pop" on a fresh Glamour Pop. Add some smooth rhinestones to the back waistband and make it cool for the wise women to show their Glamour Pops sticking out - like the musicians do.
For the gentlemen, Rascal Wraps - once again instead of using the word "changing", we rebrand the wording to " are you ready to be wrapped?"
Husband kept going and said - for the large fellow's Rascal Wraps - there could be the Bootidryous XTREME.
And for the techies, a Rascal iWrap with a diaper moisture sensor that will alert the caregiver by playing the Hawaii 5-O theme song on an iPhone.
And as far as the derogatory terms for the "older" generation - the younger the generations get - the more interesting the terms get. The lovely current one is of course the "Ok Boomer" response to anything and everything that doesn't always mesh with their beliefs and in an attempt to make the speaker feel old.
My own daughters drive me insane because they will say it to me and I just laugh and say "Have some respect!!! Why do people seem to forget about my entire generation?? First of all how old do you think I am? Your GRANDMOTHER is a Boomer. and there is an ENTIRE generation between Millennials (which mine are not - they are actually Gen Z) and Boomers!! Why does everyone seem to forget Gen X exists?"
@Alvadeer - it is FDIA (Factitious disorder imposed on another) or FIIC (Fabricated or Induced Illness by Carers) - I've seen both - apparently the new name provides a more accurate description of a person's behavior?
I am pretty much doubled over with these suggestions for good names for incontinent wear. I think my favorite is "Rascal Wraps". Yes, you got it on the new name for Munchausens. I should be able to remember that one; facetious is one of my favotire words.
I too am from the 'Friends' time and am proudly Generation X. I know what you mean about with the 'Okay, Boomer' response every generation gets from these younger kids whenever someone does not agree with them.
When pulling one by the ear is not applicable (in some cases like with the kids of strangers in a store or something) I respond with a clear.
'Shut the hell up, Zoomer'.
Or
'I know how sign my own name. You don't'.
Then there's my personal favorite.
'You kids won't be able to retire until you're 90.'
I don't think I would want to use something called a 'Glamour Pop' to pee and crap in. It sounds like some new and trendy kind of make-up.
I'd totally wear a rhinestone-trimmed Liberace diaper though. Why not?
Do they come in thong-style?
And if that isn't enough - they also have them for menstrual cycles "period panties". That is not something I have to worry about - thank you menopause - but there is something just not quite safe to me about that. I'm not sure I would ever be able to work up the nerve. That and the Diva Cup - just seem like accidents waiting to happen. And that's not an accident I was ever willing to take a chance with.
And "Glamour Pop"....too close to "Glamour Poop" and then you go down a rabbit hole that you aren't getting out of...seriously! And rhinestone-trimmed thongs? Ugh.. you can have those - I'm a comfort girl!