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Patchy frost this morning and my furnace kicked on last night, I guess the summery idyll is truly at an end.
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Cwillie, we haven't had to turn the furnace on yet but it's getting close.
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I guess when to turn on the furnace depends on your cold tolerance. My house thermostat has been reading 67° the last few mornings so I turned on the furnace and set it to come on if it dropped to 66° overnight, that's plenty cold enough for me!
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That's funny cwillie, it's 66 in here now, but I just took the garbage out to the curb, and it's actually warmer outside. So either the heat will go up, or it's going to be a cooking day. To get the chill out.

But are break point is pretty much the same.

I did buy a large bag of second apples yesterday, so if nothing else pops up, it will be a good day for apple sauce.
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Mostly in the fall, I keep the temp in the house way down to help my body adjust to the cold, quicker.

Today walking is going to be chilly, but this same weather in April , will feel warm. So I try to get my body adjusted.
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I think the igniter is going out in living room gas fireplace; it wouldn’t light this morning and I love starting my day with coffee in front of the fire. Just had the mini-split serviced last week. I guess I need to call the fireplace guys now. Fall is expensive.
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AH, (insert multiple swear words here)! The deer breached the wire cage and stripped the Crape Myrtle! They don’t even eat the leaves; just yank them off and spit them in the dirt!
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I just found this section of the Forum, and am so glad!!!!!I l love gardening and it is a life saver with dealing with my husband who is wheelchair bound. I have a pond (about 12x12) with frogs, tadpoles and fish and it is so uplifting to go and watch them while I decompress. It is the end of the season here (central PA) and I am cleaning up and planning for next year.
Hope to find new friends on this site.
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Well, dill, I'm glad you found this thread.

I'm actually wondering something, maybe you or other have an answer.

While cleaning my basement area, I found a bucket of tulip bulbs. I do know this is the time of year in my area to replant them. But wondering if it is worth the work if they are 2 or 3 years old?
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Lol, so nevermind my last question I solved my issue, I through them in a spot of my old pool, my husband has been gradually filling in, that way no work required and if the come up they come up. 😆
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Psue - R got the catalpa pods from a tree in Calgary, Alberta We are further north than that. I looked it up and Northern Catalpas will grow in Canada so we are trying it. Rocky has munched a little on the leaves of two of the seedlings, but I have warned her off and she is usually pretty good then. We will nurse them in doors this winter and plant them out next spring. Apparently they can grow up to 100 ft tall. What a pain about those pesky deer!!! They really are destructive.

We have had the gas fireplace on and also the furnace at times, but then this is Canada and we have had the air conditioning on and the patio doors open too.

We find the condo temp hard to regulate. It gets too hot very quickly. We have learned to prop the front door open a bit to get a current of air through from the hallways, which is usually cooler than in here. There has been one frost only but more are coming.

Geese and ducks have been feeding outside in the field after the combining. Good pickings!
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Hi Dill!
I’m envious of your pond but wonder how you keep the raccoons and other critters from feasting on your fish. I have a spot in my lawn that stays wet until June and I’ve been wondering what to do with it since I can’t mow down there until the grass is a foot high. Not sure about a pond because of the abundance of destructive critters I already feed, not to mention the maintenance. It would be beautiful down there though since that part of the yard is overlooked by the main floor deck.
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Golden, you live in a condo that overlooks open farm fields? How lovely! (and itchy, but worth it for the view). AND you have room to plant Catalpas there? It sounds wonderful.
I have been researching trees that will grow in our clay soil and the list is not long. Half the year it is heavy and wet and the other half it is a brick. But I am desperate for some more brilliant Fall color as the house is surrounded by huge firs and aging big leaf maples that turn golden brown but not red or orange.

Nacy, I’ve had mixed luck with old bulbs. Seems like the gophers get to them before they can get a root-hold. It will be fun to see what you get in the Spring.

Golden, I almost missed that you grew the Catalpas from seed! Bravo!!
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psue - not itchy and we do not have room to plant trees though R will overwinter a few seedlings on the edge in the farmer's field outside our unit. Some survive. He has grown an oak and silver maples so far which have been transplanted to the lake.

I have a 50' x150' lot near a lake and about 10 minutes drive away from here in what once once a summer village, but is becoming a bedroom community for people to commute to the city. It is overgrown with tansy and poplars right now, but we plan on planting some more trees - apples, a Shubert chokecherry, the catalpas, and whatever. And also probably will grow some veggies and berries eventually and some perennials. I miss my Japanese anemones, delphiniums, hostas and roses.

We have a seed thing going here. R collects seeds and dries them. Then we try germinating them. We have some apple seeds drying now. It's really one of his hobbies but I am happy to help.

Would a Japanese maple work at your place? Apparently they tolerate clay soil as will a Virginia creeper and both turn red in the fall. I miss my Virginia creeper.
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@ Peasup .

My neighbor behind me has big beautiful sugar maples , bright orange in fall . They are in clay soil next to a swale , which in heavy rains turns into a stream . My back yard is higher on a hill on my street and is flat but slightly pitched down . Rain runs into the swale in my neighbors yard . Those tree roots must be in wet clay on the one side and they do fine . They’ve been there 20 years . We also have had some very dry summers past few years . 15 years ago we had a couple of really wet summers . Nothing seems to affect these trees.
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Golden,
Japanese Maples are on my list. I have three, but they are the lacy leafed kind, one green/peachy, one red/burgundy and one really weird one that with such fine grey-green leaves they look like fuzz. I was considering an upright, larger leafed variety. There is a gorgeous one I’ve seen that’s luminous copper until it goes dark in the Fall. There are so many beautiful Japanese maples and I have a great spot for one (or two or three) more.

Way,
I hadn’t thought about Sugar Maples. Great suggestion! I will look into those. There are four areas on the property I’d like to selectively ‘re-tree’ and sugar maples might work well in that too wet/too dry spot if they can handle being in the shade much of the day. There is an enormous big leaf maple stump in that spot and I suspect the decomposition of the roots over time is contributing to the sinking soil there. We call it the swamp from November through June.

Golden again,
How nice to have a place to retreat to and dig in the dirt. And near a lake! Good soil then! Bonus! Are the chokecherries you speak of trees or shrubs?
And thank you for mentioning Virginia Creeper. It had run through my mind (on the way to somewhere else apparently) when we first moved in. I have very fond childhood memories of the Virginia Creeper that grew over the windows of our house and I could sit inside and study the bees very close up.

Now I just need several thousand dollars and someone very strong who has a pickup truck and enjoys digging holes in bricks!
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It's sunny and mild and the predictions are for an extended period of rain and cold so this morning I've been disassembling my gazebo and gathering up my remaining planters. I hate it because I have to make decisions - the gazebo top is pretty fragile, can I patch it and make it last another year? do I want to? - should I bring in some of these plants so I can use them next summer? - how am I going to store all the planters and my bucket garden? - what about that big pile of soil, can I just cover it with a tarp and leave it there?
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Psue - start some maples from seed. You collect the seeds and dry them, then germinate them. Lots of info online about which seeds need what process. I germinated the catalpa on wet paper towel in a baggie in a warm spot in my kitchen. Then plant the germinated seeds in a pot of nice soil. I got my soil from Amazon. Once the seedlings have had a winter inside they should be saplings and OK to plant outside when the weather is nice. This way you don't need trucks and muscle because the saplings are small enough for you to plant with a shovel yourself and you have the satisfaction of seeing this tree grow from seed. Worth a try anyway!

We had clay back in Ontario when I was a child. Lots grew in it. We had climbing roses all over the garage, phlox, forget me nots, day lilies, sweet williams, snow drops, those tall chrysanthemums, holly hocks, caragana. lilacs, cedars, maples,...A neighbour had a great apple tree. Mother had a vegetable garden.

cw - decisions, decisions but not of the worst kind.

We have flocks of geese and ducks in the field outside feeding on the left over grain. They've been at it for a couple of days now. I love to hear the honking and quacking as they land. Then they chatter a bit amongst themselves as they are feeding, You see family units working together. After a while, more honking and quacking as they leave. I haven't got a pic yet of the flocks circling. I haven't been fast enough with my camera. The magpies, interestingly enough are quiet when the geese are here - a welcome change from the squawking they often do in the daytime, especially when Rocky goes on the balcony. They were chatting quietly to the each other after the geese left - quite pleasant sounds for a change.

R, of course, thinks of bringing down a few geese but we are in town.

Story about duck hunting and sand hill cranes.
An guy was talking about his "catch" when he shot a sand hill crane along with geese and ducks. He tried cooking it but it was very tough.
An old geezer told him "You have to use the Rock method".
"Rock method?"
" Yes. Put a rock in with the sand hill crane and cook them till the rock is done, Then throw anay the crane".

"T-t-t-that's all folks"
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Golden, we call them Canadian geese here. They are fun to watch a whole flock flying through, this time of year, they an be noisy, that's for sure.

Husband has been building me a small stone deck out my back door, to put are grill on , and maybe a chair. Almost done, and looks really nice

I do see for his age I need to start steering him towards less heavy lifting projects.
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cwillie, I admire anyone who can put together a pretty container garden. I don’t seem to have a talent for it.

Nacy, a patiette! I laid one this year too. It was a lot of fun, like a jigsaw puzzle, until the last 3 pieces. I was working between a curved stacked stone wall, a straight concrete sidewalk and a wood deck so those last 3 pieces were a real challenge. Got it done though and it’s pretty!

Golden, seeds are a smart idea. I don’t know if I have the patience for it but it would be very rewarding to reforest some of this property with trees I start myself. It’s definitely shocking to see the prices of trees in the nursery.

A week or so ago I’d noticed some weeds coming up in the gravel along the side of the house. They can’t be seen from the windows but I knew Id better get at them before the rains start or they will be huge by Spring. I gathered my gear and went out to get started and WONDER OF WONDERS! They aren’t weeds they’re Cyclamen! Dozens and dozens and dozens of them! I’m chortling in my joy!
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Psue - Cyclamen are beautiful. You are talented to lay a "patiette". A type of grill or built in BBQ? Not sure what that is but you are talented. lol

Nursery trees are expensive here too.
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Golden, ‘patiette’ -an itty bitty patio. Sorry, I have used that word for so long I forgot I made it up.

Loved your crane story! You cracked me up!
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Psue - Lol "Patiette"- good word. Descriptive! You are talented for sure.

That was one of R's stories. He can tell stories and spin yarns for hours.
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Psue, that's adorable " patiette"

Huddy has one block to go. And then fill in the cracks with sand. Hubby got tired, and this one needs to be cut.

But my patiette is adorable. We are racing against time now, to get out door stuff done.
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Golden, I’m not sure about talent, but I am persistent and very lucky that I dug up a pile of old broken flagstones out in the back 40. I figure I don’t have many years of heavy work left in me and I really need to put my personality into this property before I move on.

Nacy, I just love little ‘moments’ of creativity and craftsmanship in the yard. You are going to enjoy your patiette all the more because your husband made it for you.
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Peasup, you are very creative, and a busy bee. you place sounds amazingly beautiful.

We had an above ground pool , we got rid of , then we had a deck for the pool. I didn't mind getting rid of the pool, but I loved my deck. So this spring hubby , put lattice on the Open side and we restained the deck, replaced some of the old boards , and moved the stairs , now I have what I call my "She Deck" , in the spring I'm going to put a flower garden in the rounded part of the deck , where the pool was.
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I would have done the same thing had I had a pool. My yard IS beautiful if you squint a little. It’s big though and can get overwhelming at times. I went from a little jewel box of a yard on a few acres of wild, high desert butte to a huge yard in a hole in the forest. It’s like a different planet.

A round flower garden sounds magical. My GM had one with a curvy stone path through the middle with a birdbath and sundial in amongst the hollyhocks, big red poppies….all the wonderful old fashioned flowers. I have a few flowers and would love to have more but I could definitely use some lessons on keeping the deer from eating them.

So you will overlook the flower garden when you’re on the deck? That will be gorgeous!
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Peasup, when I'm stressed I put mind in a perfect setting,

Your home description reminds me of where I let my mind go. Except there is a steam in there and a mossy bank in the sun to lay in.

Oh my a bird bath, I never thought of that, that will be a must now!
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Nacy, no stream : ( plenty of mossy bank, but only sunny in patches here and there. I’m very grateful to the original owner for leaving me such a good foundation to build on.

My mental escape place also has a stream bubbling outside but it’s on a daybed in a rustic screened-in porch with wide eaves. And it’s raining, but there’s a little fire burning in a rusty old stove.
I came up with that one to get me through chemo and it’s been helpful for 20 years.
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I adore gardening, it's my safe haven in my yard. My 90+ year old friend, who lives about 6 states away, sent me a birthday card a few years ago. I keep it where I see it everyday and it says, "One is never nearer to God's Heart than in a Garden". I am fortunate as I planted just a couple spider plants about 6 years ago. The wind blows right through my yard, and every year, that wind blows the seeds of the plants! Now, every year, my garden has grown with these beautiful plants, come mid-summer. They are all over the place! Some have reached 4 -5 feet tall! It's like a garden of pure joy, and I sit on my patio, with my dogs, and just relax in the beauty of the garden. Oh, their fragrance is amazing! I have some below my bedroom window. I can smell them when I am in bed- and it's free aromatherapy!

I've been struggling with family issues, as my parents are elderly, and in my gardens I find serenity. I planted one mum about 4 years ago, and every year, I have to separate it, it is so huge now. I don't buy mums in the fall, because one has multiplied and I have replanted multiple gardens with the one!

When I started my garden, I looked for plants, perennial, that would grow back every year, and ones that the butterflies, hummingbirds, and bumblebees would like. There's so much joy in relaxing in a flower garden~ I would recommend it to anyone!

I get visits by butterflies and hummingbirds every year~ it is a good feeling to know I give them enjoyment~

Just a thought: the spider plants I have are adored by bumblebees, I would caution anyone who is allergic to bee stings to know this fact. The bees stay near the flowers, they don't fly all around everywhere, but I wanted to mention that fact!
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