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Yay Lucky! We can start a club! I caught my mother's cat - tried to, that is - making his escape bid when we moved to our new house, and he sank his fangs deep into my hand. Went to the urgent treatment centre and the nurse disinfected it and bandaged it. Next day it looked like a surgical glove that someone had blown up for a joke. Back to the walk-in centre, and the alert GP on duty there sent me straight to hospital for admission for IV antibiotics. I was there for three or four nights, and overheard the nurses referring to me as "Cat Bite Woman." Never been so humiliated in my life. Everybody else on the ward - it was an orthopaedic surgical ward - had real things wrong with them. Oh the shame!
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I Love the way nature takes care of nature too Send.Iv'e learned so much through Bootsie and her babies.The kittens are doing good,running and playing now at almost 5 weeks old.They are now showing their unique personalities too.I have one that's a "Loner",one that's very out going,one that always is getting into trouble,one that's just a mellow piece of Love,and the runt"Little Moe" who tries so hard to keep up with the rest.It's really fun to watch them play.
I'll probably leave the Daddy cat alone because Iv'e already been bit by a cat and gotten blood poisoning and been hospitalized because I was trying to break up a cat fight years ago.I'll just keep a close eye on everybody.I appreciate everyone's input...Thank you!
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Sure that Luckylu will made the correct decision for her cats, I want to apologize for bringing up a controversial topic. Always knew there were issues with dog people vs. cat people. With this issue, soon caregiver cat people may be fighting caregiver cat people, for or against the TNR.

I love all pets, and love the people caring for them. I love the way nature takes care of nature.

Good luck with the kittens and Bootsie, Luckylu.
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Be careful stamping to frighten them away. My client was off work for a month after he tore his cruciate ligament doing exactly that. He was a very good client, and I liked him too, but I also like cats and struggled not to say "serves you right."

I believe that as part of the neutering programme the cat's ear is clipped - painlessly, I trust - so that it can be identified as already done. Might be worth checking before you bother with this one, if you can get close enough. Before I caught up with the neutering conversation, my internal response to seeing Susan's comment was "catching a feral cat is best not accomplished at all!"
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Catching a feral cat is best accomplished with a live trap baited with wet cat food.
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Luckylu,
The spay/neuter/return program:
Maybe someone knows the answer to the catching part. But I am pretty sure you pay for the neuter, then bring him home in a cage from the vets.
This is a difficult and emotional process, best left to the experienced.
There are cat people who do this work. It is an entire thing, full of controversy, and all time consuming if anyone starts to control the feral cat population in their own neighborhood.
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Cats pajamas, lol!!! I should see if I can order us matching cat pajamas, how fun that would be !! Or cats for me and hound dogs for him, haha.
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No Send,The big,fat,old tuxedo Daddy cat doesn't howl.He just comes to our back door wanting inside.So far,I haven't had to spray anyone and how can I feed the other strays and not feed that one?And I could never catch or touch or hold the Daddy cat to take it to get fixed at the spay neuter program.Do they come and catch them?Then bring them back to the neighborhood?
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Well, the tuxedo daddy-o cat is technically in the family, or at the very least the sperm donor. In my thinking, that makes him your responsibility too, ha ha ha. Does he howl?
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SharynMarie,
Now that your hubs (congratulations) had his last day at work, he can put on the cat's pajamas and you both can celebrate by puttin' on the Ritz!

FF, All my pets got bottled water. And like Luckylu, they went to In N Out and got patties. Usually only on a car trip because it was more fun. Their weight was normal for spoiled dogs, I think.

Luckylu, I wanted to explain that you don't actually spray the cat with water. But if you don't want feral howling cats or racoons to wake the neighborhood, scare them away. You just loudly go for the hose, turn on (that noise is enough to scare them) the water, stomp your feet, spray the water in their direction as they jump the fence but don't return later.
Keep in mind, this is Southern California weather and they might enjoy a little spurtz when they are in heat, in the heat. It would be cruel to get a critter wet if it's cold or snowing.
Here in L.A., we get to choose between the cats howling or the neighbors swearing, or coming outside with a gun!
If you are feeding the feral cats on purpose, the Daddy cat too, then that will disturb Bootsie while she is in heat. imo.  Have you heard about the spay/neuter/return program?  Get him fixed, return to feral life?
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Countrymouse,
Love the name Xanadu!
Wouldn't it be nice if people too would put their tongue away properly? Lol.
Or stopped being "catty"?

Or how about this one:
Cat got your tongue?
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Poor Xanadu. So did we laugh, except for my mother, who never forgave us. Xanadu was also one of those cats who'd forget to put her tongue away properly - you know the sort, who finish washing and then sit up looking gormless with their tongues sticking out.

Goodness! What a long time ago it was, but it so doesn't seem it.
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Unfortunately kittens and adult cats cannot digest cow or goat milk. They will get dehydrated from chronic diarrhea if given daily and can die from it. Weening kittens to kitten foods and water is ideal.
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CountryMouse, inside we give our cats Brita water... but what do they do, they rather go outside and drink the water that is sitting in the bottom catch for a large potted plant.... yummy, dirt with the water :P

Laughing about the cat running around the house with a box of tissues on her head :))
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Er...

I agree that cats must have access to clean, plain water at all times.

Prefer?

Ummmmm...

Mind you, they almost certainly shouldn't have chocolate either. Nobody mentioned that to my mother's weirdo Siamese, though. The one who also got her head stuck in a tissue cube and ran round the house like that with no one able to catch her and scared herself so much she went and wee'd in the corner.

World's stupidest cat. Or was she..? My mother felt so sorry for her she used to wear her, like a fox fur, and feed her on demand. Maybe not as dumb as she made out, then.
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Kimber, please do not leave out milk for a cat... cat are lactose intolerant once they become an adult... it will upset their stomachs big time. Cats prefer just plain old water :)
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I love these bad cats and dogs stories as a humorous change to the sad and stressful posts on other topics. My husband is severely allergic to cats and dogs - although he adores them. So we have kind of adopted a beautiful black and white cat that patrols our yard in the morning looking for mice and chipmunks. My son leaves out milk for him and enjoys petting him. We don't own him but enjoy him.
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Luckylu, That is magic! If ever Precious gets loose (never) you will know where to check first. What a cute little hamburgler.
Patties are Not on any menu, btw. you would have to beg.
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Send....We don't have a hamburger place that just sells the patty.I wish we did but it's OK because the birds eat the bun.Sometimes she gets a "pup cup" from DQ though,a tiny ice cream cone.She just thinks it's so neat to see the food come out the drive thru window no matter what it is.That's magic to her.
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Ha! I'll send him over, Ali. He says the pineapple upside down cake was delicious but less garlic in the lamb curry please - I've told him he'll get what he's given.
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Don't break your dishwasher, CM. I'd love one -- the furry kind or electronic, because I have neither. :'-( lol
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?!!!! WHAT DO YOU THINK YOU ARE DOING???

I have just made my dog jump so high he hit his head on the top rack of the dishwasher. But seriously??? I went to answer the phone, halfway through stacking. I come back to find his whole head and forequarters literally inside the machine while he "washes" the dinner plates for me, just his rear end and his tail sticking out.

He can consider himself lucky I didn't shove him in and switch it on!
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Luckylu,
Our hamburger place sells just the patties, it costs less than a full on burger.
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Precious Loved going to get a hamburger,but hated having to share it with her sibling kitty cats,Odom and Bootsie.
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Wake up human, time to play. Dinner? Treats? Wake up!
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Speaking of light bulbs... my cat "Charlie", when he was younger, had a bad habit of leaping up to the light switch and turning on the lights [these were ceiling lights]. Wake up at 2 a.m., the bedroom would be totally lit, along with other lights throughout the house :P
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Shamelessly pinched off the internet: how many dogs does it take to change a light bulb?

Border Collie - Just one. And then I’ll replace any wiring that’s not up to code.

Poodle - I’ll just blow in the Border Collie’s ear and he’ll do it. By the time he finishes rewiring the house, my nails will be dry.

Golden Retriever - The sun is shining, the day is young, we’ve got our whole lives ahead of us, and you’re worrying about a light bulb?

Dachshund - You know I can’t reach that stupid lamp!

Rottweiler - Make me.

Lab - Oh, me, me, me! Puh-leeeeeeze let me change the light bulb! Can I? Huh, can I? Huh, can I? Huh? Huh? Huh?

German Shepherd - I’ll change it as soon as I’ve led these people from the dark, checked to make sure I haven’t missed any, and made just one more perimeter patrol to see that no one has tried to take advantage of the situation.

Tibetan Terrier - Let the Border Collie do it. And while he’s busy, feed me!

Jack Russell Terrier - I’ll just pop it in while I’m bouncing off the walls.

Cocker Spaniel - Why change it? I just pee on the carpet in the dark.

Doberman - While it’s dark, I’ll sleep on the couch.

Boxer - Who cares? I can still play with my squeaky toys in the dark.

Chihuahua - Yo quiero taco bulb.

Irish Wolfhound - Can somebody else do it? I’ve got this hangover...

Pointer - I see it. There it is! There it is! Right there!

Greyhound - It isn’t moving. Who cares?

Australian Shepherd - First, let me get all the other light bulbs in a little circle.

Old English Sheep Dog - Light bulb? What light bulb? I don’t see a light bulb.

Hound Dog - ZZZZZZzzzzz.
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When I walked Mom around the block,our black cat "Savvy" walked around it with us and just on a certain driveway we had to pass,she would lay down and roll over a few times.Then Mom and I would clap for her and we'd be on our way.We got the biggest kick outta that and the neighbors did too."Savvy" just Loved the applause.She Loved to show off.She was also the only cat I ever had that walked around the block with me....I'll always miss her.
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I don't know what animals can understand but many animals do know when death is close. They will remain at the owners bedside and won't come away even for feed.
I do know that horses will remember all the moves in a Dressage test and do them all in the correct order.
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Thanks for the idea to use Both names together for awhile Freqflyer and mom2mom.I appreciate it.
AntWthCabageLef...My Mother was very frail too,like yours and couldn't have the weight on her either.I hated that and so did Mom.I also believe that animals know more about us than we'd think and I think they know stuff that's going to happen before we do,like storms,death,etc.I also heard that dogs have a hundred word vocabulary.
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