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I'm not trying to be rude itrr.... and I do believe in miracles myself. Just saying surface moles can and DO lead to metastasized cancer quite easily with aggressive cancers like melanoma. The docs are not sure how, but it's thought that when the mole is surgically removed originally, a cell or 2 escapes and gets into the bloodstream. That said, it's not always a death sentence either.....even as deadly as melanoma is. I'm cancer free almost a year now and it's possible to STAY that way, with God's help.
My father had a surface Melanoma removed in his late 60’s, without evidence of metatasis. He did no treatment after the surgery . 15 years later he felt a lump , it was melanoma in a lymph node, which led to the discovery that it was in his lung , liver, adrenal glands. The doctor said cells can lay dormant for years in a lymph node undetected then come to life and it spreads . ( Maybe these days they would handle my father’s first bout a bit differently . First bout was at least 20 years ago . They are always learning ) . Second time He did IV and chemo pills , and radiation . He also did immunotherapy , when it was a new thing ) . He lived 6 more years with it ( at bay ) . Most of the tumors went away. But a few stayed and shrunk , but never went away . He died at 88 when it came back as a very fast growing tumor in his abdomen , size of a football.
Those who have heard Princess Kate's announcement today will know she apparently has cancer diagnosis. Other sources (UNCONFIRMED) say this is ovarian cancer and that there may be involvement also of the bowel. If you are familiar with ovarian you know it is often found late and it is often found already with some spred to other organs in the omentum. She is asking for privacy, being treated. I surely do wish her the best. I have two friends with cancer of the ovaries. One is 3 years out from treatment with no recurrance. The other is battling widely spread cancer for now 11 years, the longest I have heard of surviving with mets. She has undergone THREE notorious "shake and bake" surgeries, and untold other surgeries, now having undergone urostomy placement. She is a fighter like none I have ever seen, but this is a particularly nasty cancer to deal with and I for one wish the Princess the very best. I think we all knew that this was pretty serious, whatever it is, and now we know what it is.
She just had a statement put out that she sadly has cancer. It looks really so far and the news media is saying it's real footage.. not saying what kind of anything. It was on CNN.
Im a bit of a weirdo when it comes to watching the royals no clue why. Husband is all teasing me about it
She looks ill in today’s video . Pale , face thinner . Also that amateur video of her last week out shopping with Will, I noticed her thighs were very thin in leggings . Her jacket was too big on her too .
Geaton, have you heard this is pancreatic? I am hearing ovarian. Heard also conjecture of a spread to the bowel. As with all things in this royal family, I guess we will be drip fed the news; I am uncertain why they would wish to make it a guessing game, but apparently they do.
Yes, Way. Definitely a real film today, of her saying that she does have cancer and is getting treatment.
Alva, her video statement doesn't mention what specific cancer. An official statement will confirm whatever it is as some point. But because of her description of the surgery and our personal family experince with PC, it's the first thing I thought of.
It’s sad . Most likely they are wanting to keep the type of cancer private to shield the children from hearing comments regarding prognosis, so they are not releasing where her cancer is.
Sadly assumptions, rumors etc will be made anyway and conjecture , possible prognosis will be discussed . The news outlets will bring in their “ experts” to comment on what this could be , how she may fare etc .
The fact that they are not revealing the site may mean it’s bad . Or the princess just wants her privacy . Either way the news will have a field day with this despite the Princess in her video today asking for “ time, space, and privacy”.
I feel sorry for them all . I’m sure it is scary for them all as well as a reminder that Will lost his own mum as a child .
Princess Kate handled that televised statement with so much class. That is a true queen right there. The public can speculate all they want about her cancer and what kind she has. She doesn't owe anyone an explanation of her medical history.
Geaton , Assuming what has been released in the past was true , I doubt it was Whipple .
They said it was a planned surgery and that they expected it to not be cancer , however it came back cancerous .
This is my guess . A planned major abdominal surgery could have been a hysterectomy .
They said they did not expect to find cancer but they did . My guess for this part is that she had uterine fibroids . Either the fibroids came back cancerous or while doing surgery they found somethlng else while they were in there doing her surgery . Possibly ovarian .
Of course I could be dead wrong . But I’ve never heard of a Whipple being “ a planned surgery that was expected to not be cancer “, which is how this has been described the entire time .
They have said they were shocked it came back as cancer .
So agree with Burnt on this statement. Was beautifully done. I wish her much luck.
And yes, Way. When someone is a public figure, and the Royal family is that, then there will be much guesswork and conjecture. I myself think it is great to be honest, get it out of the way. Whatever type of cancer she has, whether stomach, ovarian or uterine, she will not be alone in facing it down. I cannot imagine anyone but someone not worth considering wishing her anything but the best.
Alva , perhaps the princess simply does not want to share and “ get it out of the way “. . I don’t blame her . She doesn’t owe explanations. She waits until she feels she has to share . She now looks ill , she probably thought she would explain why before it gets noticed and more rumors fly .
No doubt more rumors will fly about the fact that she was alone in the video . Perhaps she thought she would appear strong if she was alone in the video . Or perhaps talking about it with her husband next to her brings her to tears. Only she knows what was best for her . She can’t win whether she shares or not . The tabloids will put a spin on it .
I think part of her different look is the lack of significant makeup although I am sure her treatment is daunting. Hard to process both her and King Charles at the same time.
It was brave of her but I think necessary as the speculation was becoming too much and all the talk of William in an affair made it so much worse. I do think it was necessary giving the lives they lead but I do believe she deserves her privacy.
It just makes it all the more major in that one really doesn't have that much if they don't have their health first. Of course they still have alot but it becomes useless if unhealthy. I hope her family cope as best as possible.
Agree, Way. It is her business and it is almost a no win. But this is what happens when you are a public person. We have seen it happen to many. You do not have a right to your own life, even to a meal out anonymously in a restaurant. The public seems to feel that they own you.
Agree Riverdale. The princess is now quite without makeup. She is also, for someone already thin, a bit more thin. I actually think she looked more ill before her surgery in a few snaps I saw; she looked honestly exhausted with great dark circles under her eyes.
Do what she may, she will be assessed and reassessed by her "adoring" (or otherwise) public. That is the way of it for the folk always, and they do know that.
Either way Its. Gotta suck, and I feel bad for her. I doubt anyone that has cancer wants to tell the world ASAP, she needed time accept it herself. And first of all she has to protect the kids.
On the other hand anytime people are keeping secrets, people make assumptions. Most of those assumptions are worse than the actual secret. I feel like they are doing more damage without honestly. And it hurts them.
So now we know she has cancer, and hasn't been locked away somewheres in a tower.
But honestly it could be that what ever they removed when they operated, removed all the cancer and they are treating her just in case , kind of thing. Or worst case, they found something thats mastitized, we just don't know.
Yes they deserve there privacy, but I think there life would be easier if they weren't so hush
The people speculating about the kind of cancer the Princess of Wales has should listen to her statement again. She explained that whatever surgery she had was a success and that they're giving her chemo as a preventative measure to make sure there will be no cancer around.
In what way would she benefit from lying about it? She didn't have to give any statement if she didn't want to. She could just have easily had a spokesperson from Buckingham Palace make a statement for her.
For what it's worth, I think she handled it beautifully and her husband Prince William should not have been with her when she gave the statement. It's not about him.
Still speculative, but apparently some other type of cancer was found during his prostate operation (so not prostate cancer?)
Regarding Kate Middleton... in accounts I've heard her team was "surprised" to find cancer during the operation. There are 7 cancers that are very hard to detect early on, ovarian being one of them. Now I'm interested from a scientific/medical angle...
Yes I believe your right greaton. I've heard it's definitely not prostrate. So I was thinking it may be something in that area. Like blader cancer. None of them have a very positive good outlook.
I feel bad for him. Just becoming king . Seems so unfair
"King Charles has been diagnosed with a form of cancer, says Buckingham Palace. The type of cancer has not been revealed >>> it is not prostate cancer, <<< but was discovered during his recent treatment for an enlarged prostate."
Pancreatic, liver, kidney, ovarian cancers all very difficult to detect early on because the symptoms are so vague and general (fatigue, weight loss, back pain, etc.) By time anyone gets a clue that something else is going on, it's too late. That's how it was for both my hub's Grandma and his Dad, both had pancreatic cancer. Neither lived more than 2 years. I had a friend who made it to 4-1/2 years until her PC returned.
The fruitfulness of this thread is about learning that no one should continue with a doctor if you have these symptoms that are not resolving with treatment and further testing & imaging are not ordered. Don't let any doctor try to minimize it.
Cwillie, I'm strangely obsessed, and I know it's a strange thing to be so interested in. Might of started with the crown and downtown Abby. And even outlander. I have no clue🤪
Also maybe because Americas news sucks so bad, id rather put my head in the sand and put on BBC
A surprise to find cancer does not imply it was one of those hard to detect cancer, pancreas , ovarian etc The Princess did not say the doctors found cancer during the operation . It was revealed in the pathology report that she had cancer . It was a surprise , that they were not expecting , meaning during surgery nothing was looking cancerous to the doctors . . For example , uterine fibroids leading to hysterectomies are not uncommon and are usually not cancerous . This would be an example where the original surgery was successful removing all the fibroid(s) and most likely they just took the whole uterus but the routine post surgery pathology report came back surprisingly as cancerous .
As Burnt said , the Princess said the surgery was a success. She went in for a surgery and no cancer was expected . However the pathology report showed cancer . Apparently testing after finding out she had cancer , scans done etc revealed no metastasis . They are doing chemo protocol to be safe in case there are some cells left behind . In other words it’s like pulling a weed out and also spraying weed killer to make sure it doesn’t return .
Essentially , they went in and did her scheduled surgery , removed what they planned on doing in the first place. The surprise part was that whatever they removed turned out to be cancer .
I think we cannot know the details here. Nor are we likely EVER to know them fully. The known or unknown part of what kind of cancer, where and whether spread or not isn't known. Before her surgery it was known she would retire from public duties for some months. You don't do that for fibroids. Or for an exploratory laproscopy.
The royal family is often called "The Firm" and that's because their publicity machine is "run" by their minders. They are told what to say and when to say it and we never learned this so completely as through Diana, and now ongoing to Prince Harry and Megan.
What we KNOW about the facts for the Princess of Wales is what they choose to tell us. They already chose to tell nothing, then to post a manipulative picture that was meant to deceive.
She has a right to privacy. She is a public figure so the public will continue to guess. Eventually the paparazzi will get records and the world will know.
What I heard is that it is ovarian and has spread to bowel. And again, that isn't confirmed. Others have heard any number of theories. And I think we just have to settle for we cannot know. She said she was getting chemo as a preventative. You don't get chemo as a preventative, but rather get it as a treatment ordinarily.
We will know what we know when she chooses to tell us. Once she says in public what she has the TVs and papers will explode with conjecture about her survival. Her children would be privy to that. Esp young George. Imagine going to school and hearing conjecture from your classmates who heard it over the breakfast table.
Meanwhile we will guess, or just leave her be and wish her the very best.
True Alva . We can’t know for sure if it was exactly like the princess stated in her video or not . And of course there is good reason for the Princess to present such the optimistic scenario as she did yesterday . To protect the children.
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Other sources (UNCONFIRMED) say this is ovarian cancer and that there may be involvement also of the bowel. If you are familiar with ovarian you know it is often found late and it is often found already with some spred to other organs in the omentum.
She is asking for privacy, being treated. I surely do wish her the best. I have two friends with cancer of the ovaries. One is 3 years out from treatment with no recurrance. The other is battling widely spread cancer for now 11 years, the longest I have heard of surviving with mets. She has undergone THREE notorious "shake and bake" surgeries, and untold other surgeries, now having undergone urostomy placement. She is a fighter like none I have ever seen, but this is a particularly nasty cancer to deal with and I for one wish the Princess the very best.
I think we all knew that this was pretty serious, whatever it is, and now we know what it is.
Im a bit of a weirdo when it comes to watching the royals no clue why. Husband is all teasing me about it
Also that amateur video of her last week out shopping with Will, I noticed her thighs were very thin in leggings . Her jacket was too big on her too .
I am hearing ovarian. Heard also conjecture of a spread to the bowel.
As with all things in this royal family, I guess we will be drip fed the news; I am uncertain why they would wish to make it a guessing game, but apparently they do.
Yes, Way. Definitely a real film today, of her saying that she does have cancer and is getting treatment.
Sadly assumptions, rumors etc will be made anyway and conjecture , possible prognosis will be discussed . The news outlets will bring in their “ experts” to comment on what this could be , how she may fare etc .
The fact that they are not revealing the site may mean it’s bad . Or the princess just wants her privacy . Either way the news will have a field day with this despite the Princess in her video today asking for “ time, space, and privacy”.
I feel sorry for them all . I’m sure it is scary for them all as well as a reminder that Will lost his own mum as a child .
The public can speculate all they want about her cancer and what kind she has. She doesn't owe anyone an explanation of her medical history.
They said it was a planned surgery and that they expected it to not be cancer , however it came back cancerous .
This is my guess . A planned major abdominal surgery could have been a hysterectomy .
They said they did not expect to find cancer but they did . My guess for this part is that she had uterine fibroids .
Either the fibroids came back cancerous or while doing surgery they found somethlng else while they were in there doing her surgery . Possibly ovarian .
Of course I could be dead wrong . But I’ve never heard of a Whipple being “ a planned surgery that was expected to not be cancer “, which is how this has been described the entire time .
They have said they were shocked it came back as cancer .
And yes, Way. When someone is a public figure, and the Royal family is that, then there will be much guesswork and conjecture. I myself think it is great to be honest, get it out of the way. Whatever type of cancer she has, whether stomach, ovarian or uterine, she will not be alone in facing it down. I cannot imagine anyone but someone not worth considering wishing her anything but the best.
No doubt more rumors will fly about the fact that she was alone in the video . Perhaps she thought she would appear strong if she was alone in the video . Or perhaps talking about it with her husband next to her brings her to tears. Only she knows what was best for her .
She can’t win whether she shares or not . The tabloids will put a spin on it .
It was brave of her but I think necessary as the speculation was becoming too much and all the talk of William in an affair made it so much worse. I do think it was necessary giving the lives they lead but I do believe she deserves her privacy.
It just makes it all the more major in that one really doesn't have that much if they don't have their health first. Of course they still have alot but it becomes useless if unhealthy. I hope her family cope as best as possible.
Agree Riverdale. The princess is now quite without makeup. She is also, for someone already thin, a bit more thin. I actually think she looked more ill before her surgery in a few snaps I saw; she looked honestly exhausted with great dark circles under her eyes.
Do what she may, she will be assessed and reassessed by her "adoring" (or otherwise) public. That is the way of it for the folk always, and they do know that.
On the other hand anytime people are keeping secrets, people make assumptions. Most of those assumptions are worse than the actual secret. I feel like they are doing more damage without honestly. And it hurts them.
So now we know she has cancer, and hasn't been locked away somewheres in a tower.
But honestly it could be that what ever they removed when they operated, removed all the cancer and they are treating her just in case , kind of thing. Or worst case, they found something thats mastitized, we just don't know.
Yes they deserve there privacy, but I think there life would be easier if they weren't so hush
In what way would she benefit from lying about it? She didn't have to give any statement if she didn't want to. She could just have easily had a spokesperson from Buckingham Palace make a statement for her.
For what it's worth, I think she handled it beautifully and her husband Prince William should not have been with her when she gave the statement. It's not about him.
Still speculative, but apparently some other type of cancer was found during his prostate operation (so not prostate cancer?)
Regarding Kate Middleton... in accounts I've heard her team was "surprised" to find cancer during the operation. There are 7 cancers that are very hard to detect early on, ovarian being one of them. Now I'm interested from a scientific/medical angle...
I feel bad for him. Just becoming king . Seems so unfair
The type of cancer has not been revealed >>> it is not prostate cancer, <<< but was discovered during his recent treatment for an enlarged prostate."
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-68208157
The fruitfulness of this thread is about learning that no one should continue with a doctor if you have these symptoms that are not resolving with treatment and further testing & imaging are not ordered. Don't let any doctor try to minimize it.
Also maybe because Americas news sucks so bad, id rather put my head in the sand and put on BBC
The Princess did not say the doctors found cancer during the operation . It was revealed in the pathology report that she had cancer . It was a surprise , that they were not expecting , meaning during surgery nothing was looking cancerous to the doctors .
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For example , uterine fibroids leading to hysterectomies are not uncommon and are usually not cancerous . This would be an example where the original surgery was successful removing all the fibroid(s) and most likely they just took the whole uterus but the routine post surgery pathology report came back surprisingly as cancerous .
As Burnt said , the Princess said the surgery was a success. She went in for a surgery and no cancer was expected . However the pathology report showed cancer . Apparently testing after finding out she had cancer , scans done etc revealed no metastasis . They are doing chemo protocol to be safe in case there are some cells left behind . In other words it’s like pulling a weed out and also spraying weed killer to make sure it doesn’t return .
Essentially , they went in and did her scheduled surgery , removed what they planned on doing in the first place. The surprise part was that whatever they removed turned out to be cancer .
The known or unknown part of what kind of cancer, where and whether spread or not isn't known. Before her surgery it was known she would retire from public duties for some months. You don't do that for fibroids. Or for an exploratory laproscopy.
The royal family is often called "The Firm" and that's because their publicity machine is "run" by their minders. They are told what to say and when to say it and we never learned this so completely as through Diana, and now ongoing to Prince Harry and Megan.
What we KNOW about the facts for the Princess of Wales is what they choose to tell us.
They already chose to tell nothing, then to post a manipulative picture that was meant to deceive.
She has a right to privacy.
She is a public figure so the public will continue to guess.
Eventually the paparazzi will get records and the world will know.
What I heard is that it is ovarian and has spread to bowel. And again, that isn't confirmed. Others have heard any number of theories. And I think we just have to settle for we cannot know.
She said she was getting chemo as a preventative.
You don't get chemo as a preventative, but rather get it as a treatment ordinarily.
We will know what we know when she chooses to tell us.
Once she says in public what she has the TVs and papers will explode with conjecture about her survival. Her children would be privy to that. Esp young George. Imagine going to school and hearing conjecture from your classmates who heard it over the breakfast table.
Meanwhile we will guess, or just leave her be and wish her the very best.
We can’t know for sure if it was exactly like the princess stated in her video or not .
And of course there is good reason for the Princess to present such the optimistic scenario as she did yesterday . To protect the children.