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Just a suggestion...my husband takes Tylenol PM every night because of spinal stenosis. When he lies flat, he goes numb in his hips and feels like he is on fire. This helps him so much and it is great knowing there are no side effects. He falls asleep quickly and stays asleep all night. If you have to go to the bathroom, you will wake up so it is not like you are knocked out. Best find in the world for s.
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Noles,I saw on TV taking OTC sleeping aides more than 2x a week increased your chances of heart attack or stroke. I would call and ask the doctor to make sure its ok to do that, antidepressants also help people sleep at night and are safer I've been told. Just saying ok?......
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Social l needs to join the real world. There are many many ADHD kids who are now able to function and get good educations with the help of medication...which often is only needed for a short time...they are in no way in a "drugged state." Get your head out of the sand.
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Okay. Thanks for your advice. I am waiting for the doctor to call me back now. Will let you know what he says.
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A friend who began antidepressant late in life wished her late husband had been able to know her as she was with the help of the meds! Her daughter wished she had been on them as she was being reared.
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So nice to read this post as a testament to the life-changing benefits of antidepressents. So many people suffer unnecessarily without the benefits of meds they so desperately require. Also, the many medications that can help the elderly who are ranting and screeming which is suffering on a different level; both for the elderly person and the caregivers. I can't understand why anyone would allow an elderly person to suffer the indignities caused by brain changes as they age. Why not control it and help give them gain some contentment.with the help of medication.
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Dotti, many many years ago when my Mom went on her antidepressant she said the same thing. She wished so much she had it years ago as her anxiety was so high she even had to hold onto my dad in open areas, etc, sad.
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I think the key to the entire to give or not to give antidepressants to the elderly is that careful monitoring is required. I myself have been on antidepressants for many years and they have made a world of difference in my life. That being said, I am also monitored by my doctor. No one wants to see their loved one so doped up they can not function, but in my mom's case antidepressants/anti anxiety meds have helped her control the fear and anxiety that was making her miserable.
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I asked my husband's doctor if he could take Tylenol PM every night and he said he could because Tylenol does not contain aspirin. He definitely needs it for all of his pain at night.
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My dad's doctor said to be cautious with using Tylenol PM with dementia. It could make hallucinations worse. He said to give my dad 6mg. of melatonin about two hours before bedtime. That was a few days ago and I still am waiting to hear how it worked. He said it might take a week or two to really see results but also the first night my mom fell asleep before she gave it to him and the next night a similar situation so still waiting.
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My husband does not have dementia. He has spinal stenosis.
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I know Noles, I was just passing along info for those caring for elders with dementia :)
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My husband's doctor (and the literature on the subject) cautions against him using Tynelol PM or Benedryl. He has Lewy Body Dementia. My doctor has recomended both of those products for me. When it comes to medication, one size does not fit all!

Sharing our drug experiences here can be very useful background information. But any drugs given to the elderly, including over the county drugs, should be discussed with their doctors!
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When one must decide their quality of life, I would rather choose sleeping well at night to be able to face the pain the next day versus tossing and turning and moaning in pain. My husband sleeps so well now and I am grateful for that.
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I agree Noles. Better to enjoy this life than live in pain. Sometimes you have to weigh the pros and cons and just go with what works.
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Alisa, how did your Dad make out? The melatonin gave my Mom night mares, hope is okay and sleeping.
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Hi Reverse, well it's hard to say yet. My mom said she got up to use the bathroom and saw my Dad watching t.v. at 2:00. The doctor said it's going to take a little time for it to work so we'll see. Thanks for asking. :)
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My husband, 78, has been on 5mg Valium twice daily for 23 years for extreme anxiety. Haven't had a doctor in over 7 years willig to tryto wean him off. He was diagnosed with vasular dementia 18 mos ago and his geriatric psychiatrust suggedted going down to one daily in the morning since it afects cognitive skills and give him the second one in the afternoon as needed. AS NEEDED! It's been so erratic he's become more depressed and become argumentative in the early evenings. We recently went back to the second one around 4pm and he's just about back to his old self with the memory loss of course. No zombie anmuch more pleasant.
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My lordie, I've been on antidepressants since caregiving issues and bereavement issues sent me loopy. If it is needed, if it prevents anger and violence, it might be something a person just needs. Crikey. Not all seniors are medicated, not all are abused. Do what you have to do, in the best interests of your loved one. I've told my daughter, three signs of dementia and pop me on the raft, with a case of wine, and send me off! I've seen what dementia did to my dad and he would never have wanted to be that way if it was preventable. He was undermedicated and I fought for months to convince them he was in pain with his brain tumour. Typical symptom no one told me about. His arthritis gave him grief for years.
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I agree! I have chosen drowning but the case of wine on a raft sounds better!
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My husband has been diagnosed with dementia for two months now. He is on aricept plus seroquel and xanex. He is very depressed about this diagnosis, anger has calmed down but his depression has not completely. He is 74 and was very active but now does nothing. He blames me for his mood swings, this is difficult on both of us. Without the med's he was very difficult to live with and we have been married 48 years. I believe most people with this illness needs anti-depressants to cope with their life changes.
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Geri, I am so sorry to read this . Please be your own advocate on the pills. I would think of course he is not active on those medications, geepers! Both (separately) seraquel and aricept made my Mom a mad woman!!! The xanax (actually klonopin), constipated her, exhausted her, and made her unsteady on her feet. She is on an antidepressants which are a life saver but has been before the dementia started. Moms neurologist, the head neuro of the hospital recommeneds depakote (I get the sprinkles) to calm the brain and says seroquel is black-labled for dementia, it highly increases their chances of strokes and heart attacks. Depakote is used also for people with seizures (not my mom) to calm their brain down. At first she slept a lot, but that stopped. I have tried to wean her down but she becomes impossible to live with again, so we go right back up on the dosage. Now thats its been 4 years I am weaning her off a bit, and so far she is ok but in late stage dementia now also. Its amazing how 1 less pill a week and she says a few words again. Check with your doctor if this interests you at all, and again, I am sorry to hear. Your husband doesnt mean what he says, he cannot reason any more, and its a long road. I am still on here with my Mother which has taken over our lives but, well, shes my Mom, and love is powerful isnt it.
Hugs to you!
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I agree. My mom was on Seroquel and it almost killed her when I asked the doctor to take her off of it. He did not tell the nurse to gradually decrease it and she ended up in the hospital. The doctor on staff said she would probably pass away in a few days. She got major fluids for five days and she recovered and went back to the ALF. She was given Remeron to increase her appetite and it worked. She was with hospice and they eventually canceled the contract because she was improving. It took a long time for the Remeron to work but she is calmer unless someone tries to make her do something she does not want to do. The Remeron is an anti-depressant too. She is severe stage Alzheimer's. I just wish doctors would not be so aggressive with the dosage to start. It does not make sense to do that especially when you do not know how they will react. When I first starting getting involved with my parents' meds, I noticed my dad was taking an anti-depressant. I asked him why. He said his doctor asked him if he was depressed and he said he was because he was taking so many meds. She wrote a script for an anti-depressant. Go figure.
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Wow, I just came to this site looking for suggestions about antidepressants for my elderly mother who is verbally abusive ,angry and depressed. I guess I am a bad daughter if I want her medicated so I can continue to take care of her. The other option is assisted living. Social1, I sure wish that I could just sit her in the sun and "love" her back to her old self but that won't happen. Depression is a disease. Victoria68, your mother with dementia has pulled a knife on you, thrown crap at you for the last 10 years. Perhaps medication might really help your Mom be happy. Thanks for all of the good information here.
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I just saw this too. What a bunch of crazy ideas about antidepressants. For crying out loud, use medication when needed. We couldn't do without them. Where do people get the information they pass along as facts to others? I'm so glad these people aren't in my life...and you can guess the ones I mean.
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Shelley2977, welcome to the forum! As you see, this thread is a couple of years old' some of the participants are no longer active here. I hope you will hang around and participate in newer, active threats, and/or start some topics of your own. We welcome all views, and sometimes debate them among ourselves. The overall atmosphere here is helpfulness and sharing and, mostly, respect.

As one who has the condition of depression, I'd be happy to have someone sit me in the sun and love me ... right after they've helped me to appropriate medical treatment. I also have diabetes. You can't love that away, either.
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I think Jeanne meant threads!
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LOL, vegaslady, maybe that was Freudian! :D
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I am the person who started this conversation back in the summer of 2012. It was a nightmarish time: mom had to be placed in a NH & was combative & verbally very angry there; dad's who world fell apart with mom gone; after 2 months on his own it became apparent my husband, daughter and I (who lived only a mile away) would have to give up our place and move in with him.

It did not go smoothly and dad was extremely agitated, combative, verbally cruel and did all sorts of scary things, like locking the 3 of us out one school nite (daughter in HS) and refusing to let us in.

We have been able to wean him gently off the 50 mg of Zoloft that he was taking as he began to calm down and adjust much easier as time went on. We have been here 2-1/2 years. I suffer from depression and let me tell anyone who says we are an "overmedicated" society simply is clueless. Having anxiety and continual gnawing worry over one's aging parents, one's teenage daughter (who had a difficult time adjusting but bless her, she rallied & is doing well in college), a husband out of work, myself working in a minimum-wage job along with moving out of the home we had lived in for 17 years...I literally wanted to die; everything seemed bleak and hopeless with no workable solution. There was no opportunity for anyone to sit in the sun and be loved and if someone had come at me with a knife I would probably be dead or wounded badly.

Everyone's situation is different. I am just so glad to see that after all this time many people support my opinion just as many understand that depression is a legitimate disease and the proper medication and talk therapy helps keep it in remission. Thank you to everyone here who has reaffirmed what I said back in 2012. It has been an adventure as it continues to be.
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